¿Sera posible?, APU con modulo HBM

A partir de julio del 2017 ya se tendrian procesadores ZEN en algunos notebooks y laptops

http://wccftech.com/zen-based-notebooks-2h-2017



Segun Fudzilla, AMD esta trabajando en un procesador de nombre Starship X86 a 7nm con 48 nucleos [96 hilos] y al parecer un TDP de 180W.

Igual se tendra un APU de nombre Gray Hawk basado en el procesador Raven Ridge a 7nm de 4 nucleos y 8 hilos para portatiles, con iGP NAVI, esto para el 2019. Raven Ridge [FX] saldria despues del Summit Ridge [8 nucleos y 16 hilos], parece este APU tendria la siguiente mejora a la arquitectura ZEn siendo ZEN+ y a 10W de TDP.

http://fudzilla.com/news/processors/416 ... -gray-hawk
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-gray-hawk-7nm-apu




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Aqui hay un tipo oriental probando supuestamente una apu a12 9800

https://www.facebook.com/namegt81/videos/1204647142909840/

Lo llogra llevar a 4,8 ghz para no pillar ni a un i3 de stock [facepalm]

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andapinchao escribió:Aqui hay un tipo oriental probando supuestamente una apu a12 9800

https://www.facebook.com/namegt81/videos/1204647142909840/

Lo llogra llevar a 4,8 ghz para no pillar ni a un i3 de stock [facepalm]

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APU basada en Excavator
andapinchao escribió:@futuro mad max En socket am4 .



precisamente por eso alguno puede pensar que tiene que ver con zen :p



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ademas a 28nm
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Parece ser que veremos el chip X370 'trabajando' para enero del 2017, junto con la primera muestra del CPU Zen, esto dentro del evento CES 2017 [Feria de Tecnologias al consumidor en estados unidos] alla en la Vegas, Nevada. Despues del evento se comenzaria la venta al publico, en febrero segun el calendario de AMD, la cual a pedido acelerar la produccion para poder satisfacer la distribucion global a las tiendas.

Cosa curiosa, la tarjeta madre con este chipset de alto rendimiento X370 se comenzara a vender en diciembre de este año. Esperemos no se requieran de actualizaciones de UEFI de ultima hora para dar compatibilidad al CPU ZEN.

http://digitimes.com/news/a20161003PD200.html
digitimes.com escribió:Following the releases of its Bristol Ridge-based desktop processors in September 2016, AMD's Zen-based CPUs and its corresponding high-end X370 chipsets will make their arrivals at CES 2017 in January. To achieve a smooth transition, AMD has begun adjusting product prices in order to accelerate inventory digestion. However, since Zen-based products are unlikely to start mass shipments until after February, they are unlikely to start contributing profits until the second quarter 2017, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

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Zen-based processors will be manufactured on Globalfoundries' 14nm FinFET process, featuring an eight-core-16-thread design. AMD will initially release Zen-based high-performance desktop processors (Summit Ridge), while one for notebooks is scheduled to launch at the end of second-quarter 2017.

The high-end X370 chipsets will be launched at CES 2017, while mainstream B350 and low-end A320 will be unveiled later. X370-based motherboards will begin shipments in December.

ASMedia, which is designing and manufacturing chipsets for AMD's processors, is also expected to see rising revenues with the releases of the new CPUs.

Segun lo informa wccftech. ZEN [¿Opteron?] para sistemas empresariales vendra con varias instrucciones para el tema de seguridad, mas un sistema de verificacion SHA por hardware, que emplea un procesadro ARM integrado.

Para la seguridad basada en la encriptacion usara las instrucciones SME [encriptacioon de la memoria] y SEV [encriptacion en el sistema de virtualizacion]


http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-encryption- ... -based-sha

Usman Pirzada, wccftech.com escribió:AMD x86 Zen Architecture Will Implement Game Changing Encryption Features Such as SME, SEV and HW Based SHA – Not Present In SkyLake or KabyLake

AMD Zen features SME (Secure Memory Encryption), SEV (Secure Encrypted Virtualization) and hardware based SHA powered by a security co-processor

There are two main features that I will be talking about in this article, alongside a third feature which in combination will make Zen a much sought out processor for the Enterprise sector. The first two are called SME and SEV, which stand for Secure memory Encryption and Secure Encrypted Virtualization. The third one is hardware based SHA. As I have mentioned before, at this moment, no competing Intel architecture has any known features to rival these. At the time of release, Zen will primarily compete against Skylake and Kaby Lake based processors, both of which lack the aforementioned features. It is not until Cannonlake and Coffe Lake that any semblance of parity is expected to be present between the two platforms – and even then it won’t be complete.

All of this magic will happen, courtesy a “Security Co-Processor” that AMD has included inside of the Zen chip. Before we get into any explicit details – let me explain what all of this fuss is about. Let me explain this by giving you the example of this very publication. WCCFtech is hosted on a VPS based platform that scales according to the traffic we get – in other words, it’s hosted on the cloud. This means that we don’t have to pay for server resources we aren’t using and aren’t left stranded when traffic spikes. When we say it’s hosted on the cloud, what is actually happening is that we are serving our website via an instance of a virtualized server running on a physical server. This virtualized server can scale up or down (depending on the limits of the physical server) dynamically, according to the demand of the client and is hosted primarily in the RAM.

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This is the holy grail of cloud computing (and security conscious individuals) and as the name states, will allow end users to encrypt the entire instance of virtualization. Not even cloud providers (who have physical access to the servers) will be able to carry out any malicious actions against their clients, if they were so inclined. For all intents and purposes, the data of consumers would be well and truly safe.

Zen will also contain hardware SHA – which means it’s going to offer significant performance improvement over previous iterations of AMD architectures and even Intel offerings! As far as we know, hardware based SHA will not be present in Intel offerings till Cannonlake arrives and we have already listed the major disadvantage of SGX – it cannot be virtualized. So at the time of launch, Zen processors will be the only competitive x86 chips around rocking hardware based SHA (and the accelerated performance that comes with it) as well as the security co processor powered SME/SEV security features. It remains to be seen when and if Intel will offer a competing solution to SEV.



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Y continua esta historia del APU con memoria HBM integrada.


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RoadMap de RTG|AMD.
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http://wccftech.com/amd-raven-ridge-apu ... n-hbm-2017
Khalid Moammer, wccftech.com escribió:AMD Raven Ridge APU With PS4 Class Graphics Due In 2017 – Packs 16CU Vega GPU, HBM & 4 Zen Cores.

AMD’s next generation AM4 Zen APU “Raven Ridge” will reportedly feature 4 Zen cores, a 1024 core Vega GPU & stacked High Bandwidth Memory. All inside a compact 210mm² die with a thermal design power target of 95-35 watts. According to the same report from Bitsandchips.it, The company is also working on a smaller ~170mm² variant of Raven Ridge with 768 Vega GCN cores and no high bandwidth memory, just good old DDR4.

The beefier chip of the two will be compatible with the desktop AM4 socket. While the leaner, HBM-less, version will mainly go into notebooks.

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Besides the paper that detailed how HBM is going to work with Raven Ridge last year we’ve also spotted another paper back in 2014 detailing AMD’s “Fast Forward Project” to implement die stacking across all of the company’s product lines. It included a demonstration of an APU with integrated stacked high bandwidth memory in addition to stacked non-volatile memory cells. These memory cells would act as the system’s storage system and would essentially replace SSDs.

Pueden inscribirse para la transmision en directo via streaming del evento 'New Horizon' del 13 de diciembre, para una presentacion oficuial sobre el CPU ZEN, donde esperemos se hable tambien de las APUs con ZEN.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon
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Watch New Horizon, hosted by Geoff Keighley, for an exclusive advance preview of our new “Zen” CPU ahead of its 2017 Q1 launch.

See eSports & Evil Geniuses legend PPD put “Zen” through its paces. There’ll be appearances from special guests and giveaways.

This is the first time the public will be able to try it themselves and see its capabilities. If you’re serious about gaming, this is an event you do not want to miss.
andapinchao escribió:Aqui hay un tipo oriental probando supuestamente una apu a12 9800

https://www.facebook.com/namegt81/videos/1204647142909840/

Lo llogra llevar a 4,8 ghz para no pillar ni a un i3 de stock [facepalm]

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Es patetico ir a 1200 a CAS12, teoricamente tiene mejor controladora de memoria

Ni supera a un viejo Yorkfield de 45nm [facepalm]

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Vaya tela

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Xevipiu escribió:
andapinchao escribió:Aqui hay un tipo oriental probando supuestamente una apu a12 9800

https://www.facebook.com/namegt81/videos/1204647142909840/

Lo llogra llevar a 4,8 ghz para no pillar ni a un i3 de stock [facepalm]

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Es patetico ir a 1200 a CAS12, teoricamente tiene mejor controladora de memoria

Ni supera a un viejo Yorkfield de 45nm [facepalm]

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Vaya tela

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una apu a12 9800 esta basada en excavator

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se rumorea que este seria el rendimiento de zen con cinebench comparado con otros de intel
@Xevipiu, el A12 que mencionas seria un Bristol Ridge, que aun es la 'vieja' arquitecura CMT del ExcaVator. Donde ZEN, promete ser 40% mas potente sobre el CPU CMT ExcaVator de mayor rendimiento.


A esto y de regreso a la arquitectura SMT, que es en la que se basa ZEN.
TRASTARO escribió:¿Una nueva familia de tarjetas Radeon?

AMD ha visto de registrar el nombre Ryzen para uno de sus productos GPU.



Actuales noticias indican que RyZEN; nombre de marca ya registrado por AMD; podria ser el nombre comercial con el que salgan los CPU ZEN el proximo año, con lo que AMD dejaria atras el nombre FX. De esta manera tendriamos los.

Ryzen SR3, Ryzen SR5 y Ryzen SR7.

Asi mismo, AMD esta registrando otros nombres como marcas, entre ellos el de THREADRIPPER, el cual por el mismo nombre hace pensar que se refiera a lo que era el Hyper-Threading, es decir, las tareas multi-hilo.


https://trademarks.justia.com/872/11/th ... 11380.html


Los otros nombres que esta registrando son: VARA, JORO, JITSU y GROCK

https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/vara-87115610.html
https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/joro-87115604.html
https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/ji ... 15601.html
https://trademarks.justia.com/871/15/grok-87115592.html




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@Xevipiu aqui hay un compi de otro foro con un CELERON que tampoco pilla esta apu

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CannonlakeEvo está baneado por "Troll"
andapinchao escribió:@Xevipiu aqui hay un compi de otro foro con un CELERON que tampoco pilla esta apu

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Joer con el Celeron de las narices [flipa]
Uuufff, a unas semanas de que sepamos mas detalles oficiales de RyZEN, y esperemos tambien detalles sobre esto de posibles APUs con HBM, o al menos mas informacion sobre APUs con ZEN.
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