Divide y Venceras: ¿Mini-GPUs modulares en la tarjeta de video?

Y esta parece sera la idea que explotaran en el futuro tanto RTG|AMD como nvidia, donde la clave es hacer pequeños chips GPU modulares los cuales iran montados en la tarjeta de video y donde su trabajo 'sumado' seria el equivalente a un solo chip GPU actual.

Las ventajas serian para empezar la facilidad de diseño, el consumo reducido [solo los modulos necesarios para realizar X trabajo estarian activos] y facilidad de satisfacer la demanda [si se vende mas la version de gama media para que hacer mas tarjetas de gama alta o gama baja] asi fabrican la tarjeta madre que mas pida el mercado y que estaria dada por el numero de estos miniGPUs.

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http://techreport.com/news/32189/nvidia ... ne-package
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_di ... ric_tech/2


¿Creen que este realmente pueda ser el futuro para el mercado grafico?


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También decían que era el futuro los móviles modulares y ya no se sabe nada de ellos. Dudo que tenga mucho futuro, porque además encarecería costes a la hora de fabricar el PCB.

Además si es para suplir demanda, en vez de acabarse las gráficas, se acabarán los módulos, acabaríamos igual
Son dos mercados distintos, el PCB no creo que sea mas cara su fabricacion, donde si seria mas complejo seria el diseño de pistas, pero igual los chips los ponen apilados como ocurre con los chips de memoria HBM y entonces el diseño seria igual al actual de un solo GPU.
Y la prensa sigue recibiendo datos de RTG|AMD con esto de modularidad del GPU.

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-navi-g ... ifications
The AMD Vega chips might be the last big Radeon GPUs they ever make
by Dave James

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So, how do AMD make the subsequent Navi GPU architecture the big graphical game-changer they say it’s going to be? The answer potentially lies in the successes AMD have had on the CPU side of the business, and with the gloriously titled Infinity Fabric interconnect. This connection is what joins the two quad-core modules of the Ryzen CPUs together and allows them to ostensibly act as a single eight-core chip.

They’re already using the Infinity Fabric to some extent inside the Vega GPU architecture, but it’s the potential for using it to connect multiple slices of graphics silicon inside one GPU package that could be what makes the Navi architecture such a big deal.

AMD’s graphics guru, Raja Koduri, has already gone on record saying that it forms the basis of all their future integrated circuits.

"Infinity Fabric allows us to join different engines together on a die much easier than before," Koduri explains. "As well it enables some really low latency and high-bandwidth interconnects.This is important to tie together our different IPs (and partner IPs) together efficiently and quickly. It forms the basis of all of our future ASIC designs.”

We haven't mentioned any multi GPU designs on a single ASIC, like Epyc, but the capability is possible with Infinity Fabric."

In short, if you want to jam a whole bunch of discrete GPU cores into a single package then AMD’s Infinity Fabric is the perfect interconnect for such a job. If the AMD Navi architecture really is going to be a game-changer then this could be the perfect way for them to achieve that feat.

It also means AMD could get around the difficulty their production partners have had in nailing down subsequent lithography shrinks to help them deliver generation-on-generation performance boosts. AMD’s chief technical officer, Mark Papermaster, has said that making the shift down to 7nm, the next node on from the current 14nm designs, is “the toughest lift I’ve seen in a number of generations.”

Going beyond the 7nm mark then is going to be even harder. If we end up in a situation where AMD is hamstrung by another stutter in the shift to ever smaller production lithographies, as happened with the move from 28nm to 14nm, the monolithic GPU design would be an albatross around their necks again. But using a multi-chip design, which uses the Infinity Fabric to connect more lower-spec GPU silicon together in one package, could deliver the generational performance uplift they’d be looking for with Navi and beyond.

And if they can make such a multi-GPU design practically invisible to the operating system, as seems to be more-or-less the case with their ‘glued-together’ Ryzen and Threadripper processors, then that could take care of the traditional multi-GPU problems CrossFire and SLI have endured.

On the CPU side, the Infinity Fabric interconnect is capable of delivering near perfect scaling. If it can do the same with GPU silicon then the potential for the AMD Navi architecture is clear. If multiple graphics chips are able to work together in the same manner, Nvidia really ought to be worried, and not just in the gaming world either. Such an efficiently scaling GPU architecture would do wonders in the professional / artifical intelligence spaces too.

AMD have also almost entirely backed off from the prospect of using CrossFire with their latest Vega GPUs, which would seem to feed into this future strategy too. The new cards are CrossFire-capable, and Asus are rumoured to be pulling some more Ares shenanigans with a bespoke multi-GPU card, but AMD have barely mentioned a single word about it themselves during any of their public briefings.

That’s a marked change to their Polaris patter, where CrossFire was touted as the method for bridging the performance delta between them and Nvidia. It was only when pressed during a roundtable discussion, report GamersNexus, that AMD said, technically speaking, the cards would support CrossFire, but that the industry was largely moving away from multi-GPU configurations.

To me, this all points to a future where AMD are turning their backs on the traditional monolithic GPU design, instead utilising their impressively lithe Infinity Fabric interconnect to make a swarm of little GPU cores work together for the greater good. And that could make the next generation of AMD graphics chips entirely different beasts compared to their Nvidia rivals, and could well put them a long way ahead.

So, what do you think? Am I living in a fantasy world or is AMD’s next generation of graphics processors going to be some sort of Epyc, multi-GPU, monster chip going to Infinity and beyond?



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