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adictoalaformula1 escribió:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjru9m5bN3Q 1:12 ¿avería mecánica?
adictoalaformula1 escribió:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjru9m5bN3Q 1:12 ¿avería mecánica?
adictoalaformula1 escribió:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjru9m5bN3Q 1:12 ¿avería mecánica?
saydi escribió:adictoalaformula1 escribió:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjru9m5bN3Q 1:12 ¿avería mecánica?
siiiii,tiene q serlo,si pasas muy lentamente se ve un destello amarillo,fuego??y saltan pequeñas piezas y el otro coche ya esta fuera de su estela,bien bien
diego_mst escribió:saydi escribió:adictoalaformula1 escribió:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjru9m5bN3Q 1:12 ¿avería mecánica?
siiiii,tiene q serlo,si pasas muy lentamente se ve un destello amarillo,fuego??y saltan pequeñas piezas y el otro coche ya esta fuera de su estela,bien bien
si parece averia,aunq en esta temporada ya no hay roturas d motor y si las hay son poquisimas
vtr1993 escribió:no creo que haya SC si no lo hubieran puesto ya en el primer diario de desarrollo a bombo y platillo, en este trailer ultimo sale lo de en los boxes debajo la bandera amarilla, pero esta bastante esconidio, asi que...
me ha faltado ver alguna animacion de DRS, por lo demas es un trailer parecido al del año pasado... y mucho me temo que no mejoraran mucho los daños no? no he visto nada al respeto aun
ferran90 escribió:Y en el box no iba a haber muxha gente pasando por delante y moviendose? Yo solo veo los 6 mecanicos del 2010 y los mismos movimientos...
Adri-T escribió:otra vez, coches indestructibles! (0:15) y (0:39)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlP4whm ... r_embedded
(1:31) vemos como toca la rueda trasera de un Toro Rosso en plena curva y no le pasa nada, su coche no se daña y el Toro Rosso no tiene ni el minimo sobreviraje
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREFKJncVI0
esto al final va a parecer un campeonato de turismos, en el que te puedes apoyar en el otro para tomar la curva
y en el (1:57) vemos lo lamentable que es la IA, dejando huecos estupidos y frenando 200m antes, te puedes lanzar a la curva casi sin frenar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREFKJncVI0
0:31 frena y no trompea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tFnGyZ0-8g
PD solo hay que ver las animaciones cuando sales del box para darte cuenta de que es el 2010 actualizado
Adri-T escribió:ferran90 escribió:Y en el box no iba a haber muxha gente pasando por delante y moviendose? Yo solo veo los 6 mecanicos del 2010 y los mismos movimientos...
exacto, retiran el monitor, te bajan y el tio del gato se aparta a la izquierda con el mismo movimiento, exactamente el mismo ¬¬
todo mentiras
adictoalaformula1 escribió:Adri-T escribió:otra vez, coches indestructibles! (0:15) y (0:39)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlP4whm ... r_embedded
(1:31) vemos como toca la rueda trasera de un Toro Rosso en plena curva y no le pasa nada, su coche no se daña y el Toro Rosso no tiene ni el minimo sobreviraje
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREFKJncVI0
esto al final va a parecer un campeonato de turismos, en el que te puedes apoyar en el otro para tomar la curva
y en el (1:57) vemos lo lamentable que es la IA, dejando huecos estupidos y frenando 200m antes, te puedes lanzar a la curva casi sin frenar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREFKJncVI0
0:31 frena y no trompea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tFnGyZ0-8g
PD solo hay que ver las animaciones cuando sales del box para darte cuenta de que es el 2010 actualizado
No sabes con que opciones están jugando cada uno así que no te puedes quejar de que en el primer vídeo no se haya destrozado el morro ni tampoco te puedes quejar de la IA sin saber que dificultad era. Lo mas descojonante es lo que dices al final sobre el BOX. Es como si ahora me dices que en el FIFA 11 los jugadores salen del túnel de vestuarios de la misma manera que en el FIFA 10, NADA QUE VER
Mechanics Data,,,,Grey text denotes formula calculations,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Bold = Name confirmed with audio,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Slip Angles,,Based on technical Analysis,,,,,,,,,,,,Spring Rate,,,,Values in BOLD confirmed,,,,,,,,,,,,Only when its above this speed does the cut the steering in m/s,,,,,,,,The position the downforce is applied in,,,,,,,,,,,
Italic means data has been worked on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(Lock up brake torque),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,m/s / 2.23693629 = MPH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Code,Name,Wheel Layout,Mass,Inertia X,Inertia Y,Inertia Z,COM Y,COM Z,Air Resistance,,,Downforce,(Rear +,Engine Inertia,Rev Limiter Time,Rev Limit,Power Revs,516.0080645,1032.016129,1548.024194,2064.032258,2580.040323,3096.048387,3612.056452,4128.064516,4644.072581,5160.080645,5676.08871,6192.096774,6708.104839,7224.112903,7740.120968,8256.129032,8772.137097,9288.145161,9804.153226,10320.16129,10836.16935,11352.17742,11868.18548,12384.19355,12900.20161,13416.20968,13932.21774,14448.22581,14964.23387,15480.24194,Max Rate,Turbo Speed,Turbo boost (min revs),,,,,,Rev Limiter,Sound,Turbo Dump,,,,Idle Rate,Engine,Inertia (engine-gears),Inertia (gears-diff),Inertia (diff-wheels),Drive Type,Ratio (R),1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,Power-On Gear Change,Max Steering Lock,Diff Type,Anti-roll strength,,Tyre Hardness,,Brake Torque,,Wheel Inertia,,Max Height,,Min Height,,Toe in (Radians),,Suspension Damping,,Suspension Strength,,Friction multiple,,Collision Shape,,,,,,Damaged Values,,Flags,Reversing,Extra Wheel,1st Gear,Lock,INERT,Tyre Inertia Multiple,Rear Drive Proportion,Max Clutch,Rebound Damping,Open top?,AI on softer suspension?,Centre of dforce pressure,Camber (Radians),,,,Start Motor,Roadholding over peaks,Visible wheel XV limit,Guard Points,Centre of dforce pressure in air,,
,,,,,,,,,X,Y,Z,(Central), Front),,,,0,54.03225806,108.0645161,162.0967742,216.1290323,270.1612903,324.1935484,378.2258065,432.2580645,486.2903226,540.3225806,594.3548387,648.3870968,702.4193548,756.4516129,810.483871,864.516129,918.5483871,972.5806452,1026.612903,1080.645161,1134.677419,1188.709677,1242.741935,1296.774194,1350.806452,1404.83871,1458.870968,1512.903226,1566.935484,1620.967742,1675,,,,,,,,Revs,INI File,Point,UnDump,,,,Orientation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(Degrees),,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Min X,Min Y,Min Z,Max X,Max Y,Max Z,Min Z,Max Z,Downforce in air,Sound,Damage,Slow Clutch,,,,,Torque,Multiple,,(Stops bouncing around),1 = front 0 = back wheels,RR,RL,FR,FL,Strength Mult,,,,Set to COMZ for no turning. = non air value if 0.0,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
evo7rally,Evo VII (Rally),Standard,1240,1450,1650,480,0.27,0.56,2.12,3.3,0.51,0.3,0,0.05,0.1,759,0,0,44251.99487,67037.37634,89383.16846,111728.9606,134074.7527,156420.5448,184000,216000,258000,298000,314000,291000,211000,95000,3803.074219,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,282.547852,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,FordV8,0.2,0.19,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.045,0.073,0.119,0.156,0.183,0.211,0.247,,1,33,Simple,3000,4250,1.1,1,1750,1250,0.1,0.1,0.32,0.32,-0.14,-0.14,0,0,3500,3500,35000,35000,3.1,2.3,-0.85,0.3,-2.23,0.85,1.42,2.23,-2.03,2.03,1,0,0,0,18,1,5,0.65,,1,0,0,0.55,0,0,0,0,1,0,0.5,1,0.5,evo7rally,
F1,Formula One,Standard,750,450,1000,450,0.125,0.689,0.6,2,0.500,0.800,1.200,0.045,0.1,1610,0,0,21247,38464,57147,75097,92314,110264,128946,148361,166311,184554,202211,221919,241041,261556,281337,302657.2696,323098.1745,343832.139,363393.8652,384640.6839,402956.907,422958.2225,441347.7105,461568.8207,476221.7991,490581.718,504648.5773,505674.2858,505527.756,,,,,,,,,,F1,,,,,210,Rear Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.063694268,0.0554,0.0832,0.106,0.122,0.142,0.158,0.182,1,45,Simple,2000,2000,1,1,3000,2300,0.1,0.1,0.03,0.03,-0.03,-0.03,0,0,2500,2500,52000,52000,3.20,3.90,-0.70,0.29,-2.32,0.70,1.15,2.38,-2.32,2.38,,,1,,18,1,4.60,0.70,,1,1,1,0.5,0,0,0,0,1,,0.5,1,,F1,
bmwz4m,BMW Z4M,Standard,1080,1314,1520,425,0.16,0.55,0.6375,1.5,0.375,0.800,0.000,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,156933.399,183088.9655,211002.8895,240675.1708,271080.1011,308664.9907,345517.2315,383834.7701,424643.3151,465964.7142,383321.9159,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.064,0.104,0.144,0.175,0.207,0.231,,1,33,Simple,3500,5000,2,2,1650,1600,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.21,-0.21,0,0,3500,3500,65000,85000,3.70,3.50,-0.92,0.26,-2.12,0.92,1.22,2.14,-1.88,2.02,,,,,13.34,1,4.37,0.70,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,0.5,,,1,,,
n3n,Nismo 350Z TRACK,Standard,1040,1580,1920,480,0.26,0.5,1.003,2.36,0.59,1,0,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,159570.9352,193000,227000,257000,282000,302000,313000,289000,195000,110000,42000,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.710,0.125,0.163,0.192,0.233,0.285,,1,33,Simple,3000,5000,1.1,1.1,2000,1650,0.1,0.1,0.2,0.2,-0.125,-0.125,0,0,3300,3900,33000,39000,2.9,3.1,-0.91,0.3,-2.32,0.91,1.32,2.32,-2.12,2.12,1,0,0,,18,1,5,0.7,,1,0,0,0.45,0,0,0,0,1,0,,1,,x,
ford,Herbst Smithbuilt Ford Buggy,Standard,2721,2800,2800,800,0.3,0.6,2.21,3,0.55,1.5,0,0.5,0.1,810,0,0,95000,140000,180000,226000,257000,295000,333000,390000,445000,532000,600000,633845,576000,437000,300000,300000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,150,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.049,0.066,0.083,0.127,0.160,0.189,,1,32,Simple,0,3000,2,2,3000,2000,0.1,0.1,0.5,0.5,-0.4,-0.4,0,0,3250,3600,32500,36000,3,3.2,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,1,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,0.45,bowler,
kincaid,Kincaid Class 1 Buggy,Standard,1300,1450,1580,420,0.23,0.6,2.21,5.2,1.25,0,0,0.2,0.1,800,0,0,80000,110000,140000,170000,200000,230000,270000,300000,330000,360000,380000,390000,370000,330000,300000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.075,0.125,0.170,0.215,0.260,,,1,46,Full,0,0,1,1,1450,1750,0.1,0.1,0.3,0.4,-0.4,-0.55,0,0,4190,4190,50000,50000,2.98,3.6,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,2,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,,bowler,
f150,Ford F150 Lightning,Standard,2250,3317,4080,899,0.32,0.58,1.3464,3.168,0.792,0.000,0.000,0.15,0.1,750,0,0,100000,180231.6348,242067.2038,289762.6486,340242.1593,398487.7485,461861.8803,540694.9043,619088.3389,689862.2247,740268.4705,680044.7292,473877.3226,0,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordSVT,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.047,0.083,0.119,0.142,0.166,,,1,33,Simple,50000,50000,1,1,1250,1000,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.30,-0.30,-0.30,0,0,4611,4611,49500,49500,2.60,2.33,-0.94,0.30,-2.50,0.94,1.64,2.50,-2.24,2.22,1,,,,15,1,5.00,0.70,,1,,1,0.55,,,-0.06,-0.06,1,,,1,0.55,Ford F150 Lightning,
dodge,Dodge Ram,Standard,2718,2100,3000,600,0.36,0.6,2.2,3.5,0.700,1.500,0.000,0.875,0.1,750,0,20000,107000,165000,220000,278000,333000,392000,496000,580000,645000,637000,460000,272000,93000,0,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordSVT,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.055,0.090,0.120,0.155,0.179,,,1,32,Simple,3000,3500,4,2,2350,2000,0.1,0.1,0.40,0.52,-0.20,-0.30,0,0,3750,4000,37500,40000,2.60,2.70,-0.94,0.30,-2.50,0.94,1.64,2.50,-2.24,2.22,1,,,,15,1,5.00,0.70,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,0,,1,0.5,Ford F150 Lightning,
fjcruiser,Toyota FJ Cruiser,Standard,1727,1660,1825,900,0.36,0.62,2.21,5.2,1.250,0.5,0,0.35,0.1,680,0,20000,40000,72900,105200,133800,164300,192000,214200,231700,242800,204000,141200,64600,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,100,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.047,0.085,0.125,0.160,0.185,0.210,,1,30,Simple,3000,4000,1,1,2000,1250,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.40,-0.20,-0.25,0,0,3400,3900,34000,39000,2.70,2.40,-0.85,0.30,-1.93,0.85,1.90,1.88,-1.63,1.68,1,,,,23,1,5.00,0.65,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,25,,1,0.55,Land Rover Defender,
hummerh3,Hummer H3 Rally Raid,Standard,2100,2738,3121,1490,0.4,0.6,2.295,5.4,1.350,0,0,0.35,0.1,800,0,0,46000,87000,126000,162000,212000,264000,301000,325000,359000,385000,392000,381000,346000,279000,206000,102000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.6,1,1,1,1.05,1.1,1.15,1.2,LandRover,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.075,0.125,0.170,0.215,0.260,,,1,36,Simple,3250,3750,5,3,1850,1750,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.35,-0.20,-0.25,0,0,3100,3350,31000,33500,2.70,2.70,-1.03,0.30,-2.37,1.03,2.37,1.88,-1.63,1.68,1,,,,15,1,4.31,0.70,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,,Land Rover Defender,
bowler,Bowler Nemesis,Standard,1950,2600,2440,760,0.4,0.58,2.21,3.6,0.75,0.3,0,0.25,0.1,800,0,0,46000,83082.38773,123964.1976,167776.6031,214080.0149,262068.5193,301000,341560.9273,374383.599,387644.5445,392000,381000,346000,279000,206000,102000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.6,1,1,1,1.05,1.1,1.15,1.2,LandRover,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.063,0.103,0.134,0.166,0.190,0.213,,1,35,Simple,3500,3600,1.3,1.3,2000,1750,0.1,0.1,0.4,0.42,-0.2,-0.25,0,0,3100,3350,30500,34000,3,2.5,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,2,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,0.5,1,,bowler,
hummerh3r,Hummer H3R Stock Baja,Standard,2454,2720,2800,1500,0.36,0.62,2.21,5.2,1.25,0,0,0.35,0.1,740,0,0,42000,71000,99000,125000,153000,177000,198000,216000,223710,210000,177000,140000,100000,56000,3803.074219,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,0,0,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.051,0.080,0.107,0.136,0.165,,,1,35,Simple,4000,4000,1,1,1450,1750,0.1,0.1,0.3,0.4,-0.2,-0.25,0,0,4000,4000,40000,40000,2.6,2.6,-1.03,0.30,-2.37,1.03,2.37,1.88,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.65,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,25,,1,0.55,bowler,
N11,Subaru Impreza WRX 2003,Standard,1400,1685,1840,480,0.28,0.7,1.6,3.3,0.650,1.900,0.450,0.05,0.1,841,0,0,42510,54103,85020,115936,154581,177768,208685,240000,290000,320000,343000,348000,335700,333895,330804,300800,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1.00,1.00,1.05,1.10,1.20,1.25,1.25,SubaruWRX,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.065,0.110,0.145,0.190,0.235,,,1,48,Full,0,0,1,1,1700,2100,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.15,-0.15,0,0,6500,6500,24500,24500,3.62,2.30,-0.84,0.28,-2.06,0.84,1.42,2.06,-1.90,1.90,1,,,,18,1,5.20,0.25,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,1,1,,1,,subarurally,
escort,McRae Ford Escort,Standard,960,1450,1650,480,0.3,0.53,1.91,3,0.530,0.500,1.000,0.05,0.1,759,0,0,50800,66500,83100,101500,120900,142200,160600,181800,201200,220000,238200,254800,273200,217800,127400,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,282.547852,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordV8,0.2,0.19,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.045,0.073,0.119,0.156,0.183,0.211,0.247,,1,35,Simple,2000,4250,1.1,1,1750,1250,0.1,0.1,0.32,0.32,-0.16,-0.16,0,0,3000,3600,30000,36000,2.80,2.90,-0.85,0.30,-2.23,0.85,1.42,2.23,-2.03,2.03,1,0,0,0,18,1,5.00,0.65,,1,0,0,0.55,0,0,0,0,1,0,0.5,1,0.5,evo7rally,
icklerjimco,Ickler Jimco Chevy Buggy,Standard,1590,2000,2200,550,0.4,0.48,2.21,3,0.55,0.3,0,0.48,0.1,800,0,0,117809.9466,169461.6956,216864.0808,230418.0859,252324.2887,284634.1061,316000,354000,402000,452000,500000,556000,424000,214000,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,150,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.051,0.083,0.109,0.128,0.160,,,1,32,Simple,2000,3000,1.5,1.1,2500,2000,0.1,0.1,0.38,0.465,-0.35,-0.411,0,0,3700,3350,37000,33500,2.9,2.7,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,1,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,0.45,bowler,
metro,Austin Metro 6R4,Standard,1100,1350,1550,460,0.24,0.56,2,2.8,0.44,0.750,0.000,0.12,0.1,900,0,0,60663.33072,85719.92385,108138.9809,128213.5613,153416.6842,178986.1316,205141.6981,230784.4104,256427.1226,288000,320000,361000,378000,364000,307000,205000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,AudiTT,,,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.062,0.108,0.154,0.185,0.216,,,1,35,Simple,3500,4000,1.5,1,1750,1500,0.1,0.1,0.28,0.28,-0.14,-0.16,0,0,3250,3400,32500,34000,3.20,2.40,-0.92,0.26,-2.12,0.92,1.22,2.14,-1.88,2.02,1,,,,18,1,5.30,0.60,,1.5,,0,0.5,,,,,1,25,,1,0.5,Audi TT,
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.12,0.1,850,0,0,56707.02654,83521.97708,110776.517,135540.0505,161329.2926,188217.508,215691.8426,242653.3229,269614.8032,296576.2835,324416.9426,361000,378000,364000,307000,205000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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,,,1100,1326,1628,435,0.22,0.5,0.8,1.75,0.425,0.000,0.000,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,156933.399,183088.9655,211002.8895,240675.1708,271080.1011,308664.9907,345517.2315,383834.7701,424643.3151,465964.7142,383321.9159,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.056,0.104,0.144,0.175,0.207,0.239,,1,33,Simple,3000,6000,2,2,1850,1350,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.15,-0.15,0,0,3500,3500,35000,35000,2.80,3.20,-0.91,0.30,-2.32,0.91,1.32,2.32,-2.12,2.12,1,0,0,,18,1,5.00,0.70,,1,0,0,0.45,0,0,0,0,1,0,,1,0.2,,
,,,1400,1720,2120,504.1866667,0.24,0.7,0.867,2.04,0.51,1.228,0,0.2,0.1,846,0,0,55000,70000,110000,150000,200000,230000,270000,280000,340000,370000,400000,440000,460000,480000,480000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,HoldenV8,,,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.063694268,0.123915737,0.160025604,0.191864927,0.235904695,0.279329609,0.318471338,,1,46,Simple,0,0,1,1,1650,1550,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.21,-0.21,0,0,3000,3000,85000,85000,3.9,3.65,-0.9,0.34,-2.34,0.9,1.38,2.34,-2.14,2.04,1,,,,13.77,1,4.65,0.7,,2,,0,0.5,-0.044,-0.044,-0.044,-0.044,0.5,1,,1,0.725,,
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Din-A4 escribió:esque adri, te quejas demasiado, aparte llamarles mentirosos cuando no sabes casi nada.... (lo digo porque no hemos visto mucho)
aver, no te compares con un gran turismo ni need for speed, esto es OTRA entrega, de un año, en FIFA por ejemplo, los mismos años salen los mismos menús, las mismas entradas, los mismos comentaristicas, y si me apuras, las mismas físicas.
esta es una entrega, continuación de F1 2010. Tenían muchas cosas que pulir, como por ejemplo los tiempos inventados, el tercer sector, el combustible, el desgaste en la I.A., la lluvia, y todo eso cuesta lo suyo sabes? como le dices tu a un codigo a base de numeros y letras, que en una penalizacion, te penalicen o no, o que no lo has echo aposta. Programar es costoso.
Ademas añadele el ingeniero, el HUD, los pirelli, los circuitos, los graficos, sonido.... Es que encima que han echo TODO eso, encima va y en vez de agradecer, te quejas de que el monitor y el gato son los mismos, pues tranquilo, que mas da, al final lo que importa es correr, en vez de hacer esa cosa, pues han mejorado lo anteriormente descrito, ademas del manejo.
Tambien han cambiado el paddock, los menús, cuando vas a entrar al garaje ves sentarse al piloto, parc fermé, celebracion....
han echo cosas increibles en poco tiempo, para aun estar quejándote.
Los videos en los segundos que mencionaste, son todos con ayudas, y enciama con la I.A. en fácil, y uno en normal
Mira, esto es SÓLO, una pequeñísima parte de la progrmación de las físicas, que no tenian ningun misterio, de F1 2009 de PSP, ahora cambia decimales para mejorar el comportamiento del coche o que no trompee tantoMechanics Data,,,,Grey text denotes formula calculations,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Bold = Name confirmed with audio,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Slip Angles,,Based on technical Analysis,,,,,,,,,,,,Spring Rate,,,,Values in BOLD confirmed,,,,,,,,,,,,Only when its above this speed does the cut the steering in m/s,,,,,,,,The position the downforce is applied in,,,,,,,,,,,
Italic means data has been worked on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(Lock up brake torque),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,m/s / 2.23693629 = MPH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Code,Name,Wheel Layout,Mass,Inertia X,Inertia Y,Inertia Z,COM Y,COM Z,Air Resistance,,,Downforce,(Rear +,Engine Inertia,Rev Limiter Time,Rev Limit,Power Revs,516.0080645,1032.016129,1548.024194,2064.032258,2580.040323,3096.048387,3612.056452,4128.064516,4644.072581,5160.080645,5676.08871,6192.096774,6708.104839,7224.112903,7740.120968,8256.129032,8772.137097,9288.145161,9804.153226,10320.16129,10836.16935,11352.17742,11868.18548,12384.19355,12900.20161,13416.20968,13932.21774,14448.22581,14964.23387,15480.24194,Max Rate,Turbo Speed,Turbo boost (min revs),,,,,,Rev Limiter,Sound,Turbo Dump,,,,Idle Rate,Engine,Inertia (engine-gears),Inertia (gears-diff),Inertia (diff-wheels),Drive Type,Ratio (R),1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,Power-On Gear Change,Max Steering Lock,Diff Type,Anti-roll strength,,Tyre Hardness,,Brake Torque,,Wheel Inertia,,Max Height,,Min Height,,Toe in (Radians),,Suspension Damping,,Suspension Strength,,Friction multiple,,Collision Shape,,,,,,Damaged Values,,Flags,Reversing,Extra Wheel,1st Gear,Lock,INERT,Tyre Inertia Multiple,Rear Drive Proportion,Max Clutch,Rebound Damping,Open top?,AI on softer suspension?,Centre of dforce pressure,Camber (Radians),,,,Start Motor,Roadholding over peaks,Visible wheel XV limit,Guard Points,Centre of dforce pressure in air,,
,,,,,,,,,X,Y,Z,(Central), Front),,,,0,54.03225806,108.0645161,162.0967742,216.1290323,270.1612903,324.1935484,378.2258065,432.2580645,486.2903226,540.3225806,594.3548387,648.3870968,702.4193548,756.4516129,810.483871,864.516129,918.5483871,972.5806452,1026.612903,1080.645161,1134.677419,1188.709677,1242.741935,1296.774194,1350.806452,1404.83871,1458.870968,1512.903226,1566.935484,1620.967742,1675,,,,,,,,Revs,INI File,Point,UnDump,,,,Orientation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(Degrees),,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Front,Rear,Min X,Min Y,Min Z,Max X,Max Y,Max Z,Min Z,Max Z,Downforce in air,Sound,Damage,Slow Clutch,,,,,Torque,Multiple,,(Stops bouncing around),1 = front 0 = back wheels,RR,RL,FR,FL,Strength Mult,,,,Set to COMZ for no turning. = non air value if 0.0,,
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evo7rally,Evo VII (Rally),Standard,1240,1450,1650,480,0.27,0.56,2.12,3.3,0.51,0.3,0,0.05,0.1,759,0,0,44251.99487,67037.37634,89383.16846,111728.9606,134074.7527,156420.5448,184000,216000,258000,298000,314000,291000,211000,95000,3803.074219,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,282.547852,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,FordV8,0.2,0.19,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.045,0.073,0.119,0.156,0.183,0.211,0.247,,1,33,Simple,3000,4250,1.1,1,1750,1250,0.1,0.1,0.32,0.32,-0.14,-0.14,0,0,3500,3500,35000,35000,3.1,2.3,-0.85,0.3,-2.23,0.85,1.42,2.23,-2.03,2.03,1,0,0,0,18,1,5,0.65,,1,0,0,0.55,0,0,0,0,1,0,0.5,1,0.5,evo7rally,
F1,Formula One,Standard,750,450,1000,450,0.125,0.689,0.6,2,0.500,0.800,1.200,0.045,0.1,1610,0,0,21247,38464,57147,75097,92314,110264,128946,148361,166311,184554,202211,221919,241041,261556,281337,302657.2696,323098.1745,343832.139,363393.8652,384640.6839,402956.907,422958.2225,441347.7105,461568.8207,476221.7991,490581.718,504648.5773,505674.2858,505527.756,,,,,,,,,,F1,,,,,210,Rear Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.063694268,0.0554,0.0832,0.106,0.122,0.142,0.158,0.182,1,45,Simple,2000,2000,1,1,3000,2300,0.1,0.1,0.03,0.03,-0.03,-0.03,0,0,2500,2500,52000,52000,3.20,3.90,-0.70,0.29,-2.32,0.70,1.15,2.38,-2.32,2.38,,,1,,18,1,4.60,0.70,,1,1,1,0.5,0,0,0,0,1,,0.5,1,,F1,
bmwz4m,BMW Z4M,Standard,1080,1314,1520,425,0.16,0.55,0.6375,1.5,0.375,0.800,0.000,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,156933.399,183088.9655,211002.8895,240675.1708,271080.1011,308664.9907,345517.2315,383834.7701,424643.3151,465964.7142,383321.9159,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.064,0.104,0.144,0.175,0.207,0.231,,1,33,Simple,3500,5000,2,2,1650,1600,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.21,-0.21,0,0,3500,3500,65000,85000,3.70,3.50,-0.92,0.26,-2.12,0.92,1.22,2.14,-1.88,2.02,,,,,13.34,1,4.37,0.70,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,0.5,,,1,,,
n3n,Nismo 350Z TRACK,Standard,1040,1580,1920,480,0.26,0.5,1.003,2.36,0.59,1,0,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,159570.9352,193000,227000,257000,282000,302000,313000,289000,195000,110000,42000,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.710,0.125,0.163,0.192,0.233,0.285,,1,33,Simple,3000,5000,1.1,1.1,2000,1650,0.1,0.1,0.2,0.2,-0.125,-0.125,0,0,3300,3900,33000,39000,2.9,3.1,-0.91,0.3,-2.32,0.91,1.32,2.32,-2.12,2.12,1,0,0,,18,1,5,0.7,,1,0,0,0.45,0,0,0,0,1,0,,1,,x,
ford,Herbst Smithbuilt Ford Buggy,Standard,2721,2800,2800,800,0.3,0.6,2.21,3,0.55,1.5,0,0.5,0.1,810,0,0,95000,140000,180000,226000,257000,295000,333000,390000,445000,532000,600000,633845,576000,437000,300000,300000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,150,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.049,0.066,0.083,0.127,0.160,0.189,,1,32,Simple,0,3000,2,2,3000,2000,0.1,0.1,0.5,0.5,-0.4,-0.4,0,0,3250,3600,32500,36000,3,3.2,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,1,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,0.45,bowler,
kincaid,Kincaid Class 1 Buggy,Standard,1300,1450,1580,420,0.23,0.6,2.21,5.2,1.25,0,0,0.2,0.1,800,0,0,80000,110000,140000,170000,200000,230000,270000,300000,330000,360000,380000,390000,370000,330000,300000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.075,0.125,0.170,0.215,0.260,,,1,46,Full,0,0,1,1,1450,1750,0.1,0.1,0.3,0.4,-0.4,-0.55,0,0,4190,4190,50000,50000,2.98,3.6,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,2,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,,bowler,
f150,Ford F150 Lightning,Standard,2250,3317,4080,899,0.32,0.58,1.3464,3.168,0.792,0.000,0.000,0.15,0.1,750,0,0,100000,180231.6348,242067.2038,289762.6486,340242.1593,398487.7485,461861.8803,540694.9043,619088.3389,689862.2247,740268.4705,680044.7292,473877.3226,0,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordSVT,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.047,0.083,0.119,0.142,0.166,,,1,33,Simple,50000,50000,1,1,1250,1000,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.30,-0.30,-0.30,0,0,4611,4611,49500,49500,2.60,2.33,-0.94,0.30,-2.50,0.94,1.64,2.50,-2.24,2.22,1,,,,15,1,5.00,0.70,,1,,1,0.55,,,-0.06,-0.06,1,,,1,0.55,Ford F150 Lightning,
dodge,Dodge Ram,Standard,2718,2100,3000,600,0.36,0.6,2.2,3.5,0.700,1.500,0.000,0.875,0.1,750,0,20000,107000,165000,220000,278000,333000,392000,496000,580000,645000,637000,460000,272000,93000,0,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordSVT,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.055,0.090,0.120,0.155,0.179,,,1,32,Simple,3000,3500,4,2,2350,2000,0.1,0.1,0.40,0.52,-0.20,-0.30,0,0,3750,4000,37500,40000,2.60,2.70,-0.94,0.30,-2.50,0.94,1.64,2.50,-2.24,2.22,1,,,,15,1,5.00,0.70,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,0,,1,0.5,Ford F150 Lightning,
fjcruiser,Toyota FJ Cruiser,Standard,1727,1660,1825,900,0.36,0.62,2.21,5.2,1.250,0.5,0,0.35,0.1,680,0,20000,40000,72900,105200,133800,164300,192000,214200,231700,242800,204000,141200,64600,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,100,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.047,0.085,0.125,0.160,0.185,0.210,,1,30,Simple,3000,4000,1,1,2000,1250,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.40,-0.20,-0.25,0,0,3400,3900,34000,39000,2.70,2.40,-0.85,0.30,-1.93,0.85,1.90,1.88,-1.63,1.68,1,,,,23,1,5.00,0.65,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,25,,1,0.55,Land Rover Defender,
hummerh3,Hummer H3 Rally Raid,Standard,2100,2738,3121,1490,0.4,0.6,2.295,5.4,1.350,0,0,0.35,0.1,800,0,0,46000,87000,126000,162000,212000,264000,301000,325000,359000,385000,392000,381000,346000,279000,206000,102000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.6,1,1,1,1.05,1.1,1.15,1.2,LandRover,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.075,0.125,0.170,0.215,0.260,,,1,36,Simple,3250,3750,5,3,1850,1750,0.1,0.1,0.30,0.35,-0.20,-0.25,0,0,3100,3350,31000,33500,2.70,2.70,-1.03,0.30,-2.37,1.03,2.37,1.88,-1.63,1.68,1,,,,15,1,4.31,0.70,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,,Land Rover Defender,
bowler,Bowler Nemesis,Standard,1950,2600,2440,760,0.4,0.58,2.21,3.6,0.75,0.3,0,0.25,0.1,800,0,0,46000,83082.38773,123964.1976,167776.6031,214080.0149,262068.5193,301000,341560.9273,374383.599,387644.5445,392000,381000,346000,279000,206000,102000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.6,1,1,1,1.05,1.1,1.15,1.2,LandRover,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.063,0.103,0.134,0.166,0.190,0.213,,1,35,Simple,3500,3600,1.3,1.3,2000,1750,0.1,0.1,0.4,0.42,-0.2,-0.25,0,0,3100,3350,30500,34000,3,2.5,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,2,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,0.5,1,,bowler,
hummerh3r,Hummer H3R Stock Baja,Standard,2454,2720,2800,1500,0.36,0.62,2.21,5.2,1.25,0,0,0.35,0.1,740,0,0,42000,71000,99000,125000,153000,177000,198000,216000,223710,210000,177000,140000,100000,56000,3803.074219,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,0,0,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.051,0.080,0.107,0.136,0.165,,,1,35,Simple,4000,4000,1,1,1450,1750,0.1,0.1,0.3,0.4,-0.2,-0.25,0,0,4000,4000,40000,40000,2.6,2.6,-1.03,0.30,-2.37,1.03,2.37,1.88,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.65,,1,,0,0.55,,,,,1,25,,1,0.55,bowler,
N11,Subaru Impreza WRX 2003,Standard,1400,1685,1840,480,0.28,0.7,1.6,3.3,0.650,1.900,0.450,0.05,0.1,841,0,0,42510,54103,85020,115936,154581,177768,208685,240000,290000,320000,343000,348000,335700,333895,330804,300800,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1,1.00,1.00,1.05,1.10,1.20,1.25,1.25,SubaruWRX,0.2,0.19,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.065,0.110,0.145,0.190,0.235,,,1,48,Full,0,0,1,1,1700,2100,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.15,-0.15,0,0,6500,6500,24500,24500,3.62,2.30,-0.84,0.28,-2.06,0.84,1.42,2.06,-1.90,1.90,1,,,,18,1,5.20,0.25,,1,,0,0.5,,,,,1,1,,1,,subarurally,
escort,McRae Ford Escort,Standard,960,1450,1650,480,0.3,0.53,1.91,3,0.530,0.500,1.000,0.05,0.1,759,0,0,50800,66500,83100,101500,120900,142200,160600,181800,201200,220000,238200,254800,273200,217800,127400,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,282.547852,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,FordV8,0.2,0.19,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.045,0.073,0.119,0.156,0.183,0.211,0.247,,1,35,Simple,2000,4250,1.1,1,1750,1250,0.1,0.1,0.32,0.32,-0.16,-0.16,0,0,3000,3600,30000,36000,2.80,2.90,-0.85,0.30,-2.23,0.85,1.42,2.23,-2.03,2.03,1,0,0,0,18,1,5.00,0.65,,1,0,0,0.55,0,0,0,0,1,0,0.5,1,0.5,evo7rally,
icklerjimco,Ickler Jimco Chevy Buggy,Standard,1590,2000,2200,550,0.4,0.48,2.21,3,0.55,0.3,0,0.48,0.1,800,0,0,117809.9466,169461.6956,216864.0808,230418.0859,252324.2887,284634.1061,316000,354000,402000,452000,500000,556000,424000,214000,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,LandRover,,,,,150,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.050,0.051,0.083,0.109,0.128,0.160,,,1,32,Simple,2000,3000,1.5,1.1,2500,2000,0.1,0.1,0.38,0.465,-0.35,-0.411,0,0,3700,3350,37000,33500,2.9,2.7,-0.84,0.33,-1.85,0.84,1.75,1.87,-1.75,1.85,1,,,,18,1,6.1,0.70,,1,,1,0.5,,,,,1,,,1,0.45,bowler,
metro,Austin Metro 6R4,Standard,1100,1350,1550,460,0.24,0.56,2,2.8,0.44,0.750,0.000,0.12,0.1,900,0,0,60663.33072,85719.92385,108138.9809,128213.5613,153416.6842,178986.1316,205141.6981,230784.4104,256427.1226,288000,320000,361000,378000,364000,307000,205000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,AudiTT,,,,,120,Transverse,0.01,0.01,0.01,Four,-0.050,0.062,0.108,0.154,0.185,0.216,,,1,35,Simple,3500,4000,1.5,1,1750,1500,0.1,0.1,0.28,0.28,-0.14,-0.16,0,0,3250,3400,32500,34000,3.20,2.40,-0.92,0.26,-2.12,0.92,1.22,2.14,-1.88,2.02,1,,,,18,1,5.30,0.60,,1.5,,0,0.5,,,,,1,25,,1,0.5,Audi TT,
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.12,0.1,850,0,0,56707.02654,83521.97708,110776.517,135540.0505,161329.2926,188217.508,215691.8426,242653.3229,269614.8032,296576.2835,324416.9426,361000,378000,364000,307000,205000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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,,,1100,1326,1628,435,0.22,0.5,0.8,1.75,0.425,0.000,0.000,0.1,0.1,800,0,0,56300,82200,108000,132900,156933.399,183088.9655,211002.8895,240675.1708,271080.1011,308664.9907,345517.2315,383834.7701,424643.3151,465964.7142,383321.9159,,,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,nissansky,0,0,,,150,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.060,0.056,0.104,0.144,0.175,0.207,0.239,,1,33,Simple,3000,6000,2,2,1850,1350,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.15,-0.15,0,0,3500,3500,35000,35000,2.80,3.20,-0.91,0.30,-2.32,0.91,1.32,2.32,-2.12,2.12,1,0,0,,18,1,5.00,0.70,,1,0,0,0.45,0,0,0,0,1,0,,1,0.2,,
,,,1400,1720,2120,504.1866667,0.24,0.7,0.867,2.04,0.51,1.228,0,0.2,0.1,846,0,0,55000,70000,110000,150000,200000,230000,270000,280000,340000,370000,400000,440000,460000,480000,480000,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,HoldenV8,,,,,120,Inline,0.01,0.01,0.01,Rear,-0.063694268,0.123915737,0.160025604,0.191864927,0.235904695,0.279329609,0.318471338,,1,46,Simple,0,0,1,1,1650,1550,0.1,0.1,0.15,0.15,-0.21,-0.21,0,0,3000,3000,85000,85000,3.9,3.65,-0.9,0.34,-2.34,0.9,1.38,2.34,-2.14,2.04,1,,,,13.77,1,4.65,0.7,,2,,0,0.5,-0.044,-0.044,-0.044,-0.044,0.5,1,,1,0.725,,
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metralla009 escribió:SAFETY CAR CONFIRMADO !
LOGRO : Perform a Pit-stop during a Safety Car Period
serslipknot escribió:Hay que reconocer su trabajo, pero también somos consumidores y no nos pueden meter un juego como el F1 2010 y luego sacar un parche que no arregla nada...y como consumidores eso no podemos permitirlo ya que palmamos 60 o 70€ por un juego y como están las cosas ahora hay mucha gente a la que le es difícil hacer ese desembolso para que luego te metan un truño....porque no e visto un juego con mas fallos que el f1 2010....Creo que nosotros los premiamos el año pasado al comprarle millones de copias por el susodicho truño, ahora les toca a ellos premiarnos a nosotros por lo menos con un juego decente con buena IA, conduccion y con pocos fallos ( es difícil sacar un juego sin ningun bug).
Reconozco la complejidad de su trabajo y el gran trabajo de empezar casi desde 0 un juego como este pero...QUE ESTE AÑO NO NOS VENDAN LA MOTO POR DIOS ejjeje
Adri-T escribió:serslipknot escribió:Hay que reconocer su trabajo, pero también somos consumidores y no nos pueden meter un juego como el F1 2010 y luego sacar un parche que no arregla nada...y como consumidores eso no podemos permitirlo ya que palmamos 60 o 70€ por un juego y como están las cosas ahora hay mucha gente a la que le es difícil hacer ese desembolso para que luego te metan un truño....porque no e visto un juego con mas fallos que el f1 2010....Creo que nosotros los premiamos el año pasado al comprarle millones de copias por el susodicho truño, ahora les toca a ellos premiarnos a nosotros por lo menos con un juego decente con buena IA, conduccion y con pocos fallos ( es difícil sacar un juego sin ningun bug).
Reconozco la complejidad de su trabajo y el gran trabajo de empezar casi desde 0 un juego como este pero...QUE ESTE AÑO NO NOS VENDAN LA MOTO POR DIOS ejjeje
bravo! bien dicho tio
es lo que he quierido decir mas de una vez, pero soy pesimo expresandome
Dunedai24 escribió:Si ya pero como en estos temas a largo plazo no se puede asegurar nada porque siempre suelen surgir problemas de última hora etc ya se sabe... SOlo ellos saben que tipo de contrato tienen firmano con la FIA y los derechos de copyright me imagino para poder sacar otra copia más en 2012 antes de renovar otra vez. Pero ami me da la sensación de hasta no ver el juego en mis manos no cantar victoria.
Me ha parecido ver que no hay mucha mejora en el efecto rebufo respecto a 2010 aun con kers y drs.
SiR_Gilardo escribió:Adri-T escribió:serslipknot escribió:Hay que reconocer su trabajo, pero también somos consumidores y no nos pueden meter un juego como el F1 2010 y luego sacar un parche que no arregla nada...y como consumidores eso no podemos permitirlo ya que palmamos 60 o 70€ por un juego y como están las cosas ahora hay mucha gente a la que le es difícil hacer ese desembolso para que luego te metan un truño....porque no e visto un juego con mas fallos que el f1 2010....Creo que nosotros los premiamos el año pasado al comprarle millones de copias por el susodicho truño, ahora les toca a ellos premiarnos a nosotros por lo menos con un juego decente con buena IA, conduccion y con pocos fallos ( es difícil sacar un juego sin ningun bug).
Reconozco la complejidad de su trabajo y el gran trabajo de empezar casi desde 0 un juego como este pero...QUE ESTE AÑO NO NOS VENDAN LA MOTO POR DIOS ejjeje
bravo! bien dicho tio
es lo que he quierido decir mas de una vez, pero soy pesimo expresandome
Si está muy bien criticar para mejorar un juego, eso yo tambien lo hago, pero lo que digo es que me parece exagerado criticar hasta el minimo detalle de cada video, parece como si buscasemos al detalle cualquier error...
Adri-T escribió:Si está muy bien criticar para mejorar un juego, eso yo tambien lo hago, pero lo que digo es que me parece exagerado criticar hasta el minimo detalle de cada video, parece como si buscasemos al detalle cualquier error...
te parece exagerado? pues a mi no, son cosas necesarias, los detalles uno tras otro suman, los detalles hacen grandes a muchos juegos
por ejemplo, el año pasado se decia del angulo de los volantes que no giraban 180, es un detalle que si lo arregan se agradece mucho
otro por ahi ha dicho algo de que una mano no tocaba el coche y quedaba flotando que si bug y no se que
preferiria que esa mano tocase el coche y no quedara flotando
si el coche en boxes atraviesa cables queda feo
etc etc
si sumas y el juego lo dejas sin pulir detalles al final queda una guarrada que no veas
DAVID_BILBAO escribió:Alguien me puede poner el link del video de 30 minutos de hace unos dias por favor??
4. Saliendo de boxes el renault, se ve al fondo a los coches apelotonados además de que la luz de SC sigue parpadeando.: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4760/accidente4.jpg
serslipknot escribió:Alguien sabe decirme porque todos los coches llevan como unos botones en la parte derecha al lado del volante? :S en ningun coche de este año me ha parecido ver algo parecido.
fernandoalon escribió:4. Saliendo de boxes el renault, se ve al fondo a los coches apelotonados además de que la luz de SC sigue parpadeando.: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4760/accidente4.jpg
Tienes vista de aguila o que?
RBLL87 escribió:fernandoalon escribió:4. Saliendo de boxes el renault, se ve al fondo a los coches apelotonados además de que la luz de SC sigue parpadeando.: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4760/accidente4.jpg
Tienes vista de aguila o que?
Te puede decir hasta los espectadores exactos que hay en esa tribuna.
Din-A4 escribió:serslipknot escribió:Alguien sabe decirme porque todos los coches llevan como unos botones en la parte derecha al lado del volante? :S en ningun coche de este año me ha parecido ver algo parecido.
en verdad tienen mas