¿ Horario de la conferencia de mañana de MS?

A ver si alguien lo dice pues puede ser una conferencia bastante interesante.

shinoda escribió:A ver si alguien lo dice pues puede ser una conferencia bastante interesante.

Hombre, es que con que saquen un par de videos en condiciones del Blue Dragon y Lost Oddisey ya se tiene debate para los dos proximos dias antes d TGS, por lo menos daria temas para discutir ... por eso digo lo del horario, asi veo los videos por la mañana si es pronto la conferencia, los pongo a parir y veo la reaccion por la noche, a ver como me han puesto a caer de un burro

a mi tambien m interesa haber alguien que l sepaa

No tengo ni idea, pero vamos si la conferencia es realmente mañana y en Japon y como en todos estos eventos se celebra sobre las 10.00 de la mañana, serian las 2 de esta madrugada, aunque lo dudo, puede que sea por la tarde y entonces aqui en españa sea sobre las 10 de la mañana.

Yo creo que los bombazos los dejaran para el x06.
En este TGS, mostraran solo lo qu eles puede interesar a los japoneses, para intentar tener mas cuota de mercado, pero viendo el panorama, le daria mas apoyo a usa y europa que ha japon.


hasta ahora

DeD escribió:No tengo ni idea, pero vamos si la conferencia es realmente mañana y en Japon y como en todos estos eventos se celebra sobre las 10.00 de la mañana, serian las 2 de esta madrugada, aunque lo dudo, puede que sea por la tarde y entonces aqui en españa sea sobre las 10 de la mañana.

Si no ha habido cambio de planes de ultima hora la conferencia esta anunciada para el dia 20... y mas vale que sea antes de la hora que dices que yo me evaporo de cada a las 9 de la mañana .......por favor, que anuncien el Ninja Gaiden 2, Ninja Gaiden 2,Ninja Gaiden 2,Ninja Gaiden 2,Ninja Gaiden 2,Ninja Gaiden 2........

Se celebra por la tarde-noche asi que aquí pillará sobre el mediodia.

se supone que mañana diran las demos que van a ir colgando ¿no?, como ya hicieron en el pre E3.

salu2

Pues la conferencia esta siendo en estos momentos, de momento:

2:02 pm: The event is beginning with a video montage of many of Microsoft's biggest upcoming titles like Gears of War and Viva Pinata, as well as a lot of stats on the Xbox Live user base. General Manager Takashi Sensui has now taken the stage to open the event with a prediction: 10 million sales of the Xbox 360 worldwide by the end of 2006.

2:07: Games need a "qualitative transformation" to progress, says Sensui. He goes on to proselytize about the ease of 360 development and the development advantages offered by unique features like Xbox Live.

2:09: Microsoft Japan wants to increase the 360 user base in Japan (surprise). To that end, it's introducing a new marketing campaign described as "Do! Game, Do! Choice, Do! Live." In regard to the "game" aspect, Sensui says there will soon be 100 titles available in this territory, including Live Arcade games.

For "choice," he's emphasizing customization of the console and especially of the online experience. Pretty much the same stuff we heard from the American execs before the 360 launch.

Finally, "live" is pretty self-explanatory--communication and social aspects enhance the gameplay experience. These concepts have driven the 360 to strong sales in the US and Europe; will they finally catch on here in Japan?

2:15: Sensui is moving on to describe upcoming peripherals and packaging. A new core system is on the way for November 2; looks like the same configuration as the American one, at a price of 29,800 yen (about $254). At least PGR3 and Ninety-Nine Nights round out the package.

Now the Xbox Live Vision camera, which is finally on the streets--officially--in North America. The package looks the same as it is across the Pacific--a month of Live Gold and a free copy of Uno. Also out November 2, at a price of 4,200 yen ($36).

Next up, something American gamers are eagerly waiting for: the wireless headset. As early pictures have indicated, it's ergonomically shaped like those ubiquitous bluetooth cell phone headsets. November 2 again, 6,300 yen ($54).

Now it's the wireless steering wheel, which we already knew has force feedback included. Pricing and release yet to be announced.

Finally, the hard drive and remote control will be hitting stores along with the core system at 9,500 yen ($81) and 3,000 yen ($26), respectively.

2:21: Ah, something everybody wants to know more about: the HD-DVD add-on. Connects with USB, as we know, and supports 1080p. Mr. Kawanaka from the hardware division is now leading a live demo of the peripheral, which seems to integrate seamlessly with the 360 dashboard. Insert an HD-DVD disc, see an option to play it at the bottom of the screen, just like normal.

And what finer cinematic masterpiece with which to demo the new peripheral than The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift? We're seeing some demo features that can be found in all HD-DVD players, like bookmarks and picture-in-picture commentary. Playback also integrates seamlessly with the dashboard. No big surprises here--except perhaps that you can do video chat while you're watching a movie.

The drive will be hitting the streets November 22 at a price of 20,790 ($177), including tax. But when will it be out in the US?

2:29: Next up is everyone's favorite spokesman, Peter Moore. Time to pull off this dumb headset!

"There's never been a more important TGS for Microsoft." Moore is promising more Japanese content, made by Japanese developers and for Japanese gamers than yet seen. Of the aforementioned 100 titles, 50 will be exclusive to this market.

The Japanese market isn't the only one Microsoft is focusing on. In the next few weeks, the Xbox 360 will be launching in India and South Africa, bringing the total number of countries in which the console is available to 32.

More big numbers about Live. Moore mentions the effectiveness of Live as a marketing tool. After the Dead Rising demo hit Marketplace, preorders of the game purportedly doubled.

2:35: Discussion turns to Live Anywhere, Microsoft's initiative to unify the Xbox 360, Windows Vista, and Windows Mobile devices. Alas, no real new details about the service, other than to reinforce Shadowrun as the initial Live Anywhere launch title.

Everyone loves Xbox Live Arcade, and here's a demo reel of what's coming soon. Any new surprises in store? Among the games not yet out: Defender, Gyruss, Contra, Lumines, Dig Dug, and Fatal Fury Special.

2:38: Whoa, here come new additions to the service, including the Japan-exclusive Yie Ar Kung Fu, along with Rush 'n Attack, Ms. Pac-Man, and New Rally X. Yie Ar exclusive to Japan?! What about us poor Western gamers?

Wow, and in early 2007, Microsoft will conduct a Pac-Man world championship. The top 10 players on the game's leaderboard will be flown to New York City to compete for the top prize. Pac-Man creator himself Toru Iwatani from Namco is now on-stage to discuss the enhancements to the game available on Live.

Seems like the big enhancement is the worldwide leaderboard. Not a mindblowing new feature, but similar features have certainly enlivened Xbox Live Arcade competition for other titles since the 360's release.

Here's an interesting parting shot: Iwatani-san will assume the title of "professor" next spring, as he begins teaching game development at Tokyo Polytechnic University. Four Tokyo universities in total will adopt the recently released XNA Express as a tool for teaching development, joining a number of other schools around the world.

2:47: Sensui has retaken the stage to present a photo-op with the rather bulky HD-DVD drive in hand. Doesn't look like that thing and the 360 itself will fit on the same entertainment-center shelf.

2:51: What are the titles leading Microsoft's efforts in Japan? Winning Eleven, Lost Planet, Blue Dragon, and everyone's favorite, uh, soft-physics simulator, Dead or Alive Extreme 2. We feel a little funny watching this demo reel. The game's due out in America on November 15, and the 22nd in Japan, where the price will be a whopping 9,240 yen ($79). Why, we're not sure.

DOAX 2 a 79$? Estos que se han fumado?

We're seeing a new trailer for Lost Planet. Let's just say there's a lot more to this one than the snowy action levels we've seen previously. The game will be out in Japan on December 22, for 8,379 yen ($71).

Next up, a new role-playing game from Bandai Namco, Trusty Bell. Looks awfully Japanese-RPG-like. No release date for Japan or America as yet.

3:04: Now, another new RPG called Infinite Undiscovery from Tri-Ace, developers of Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile, in conjunction with Microsoft's own game studios. No video here, but the art style looks more realistic than whimsical from the one screenshot on offer.

Next, Mistwalker's Hironobu Sakaguchi takes the stage with an update on Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, Microsoft's two flagship RPGs for the 360. Blue Dragon will be out on December 7 in Japan, and Sakaguchi is now starting up the Lost Odyssey demo, marking the first time gameplay from this anticipated title has been shown.

CG cinematic shows scenes of a massive battle full of armored, sword-wielding knights and bizarre, mechanical engines of war. All hope seems lost, but a single warrior rises from the battlefield to take on hordes of enemies all by his lonesome.

After some flashy sword moves, the cutscene segues quite smoothly into a real-time, playable version of the battle that looks strikingly similar. Sakaguchi is able to issue RPG-style commands to this warrior to make him fight lesser enemies and a gigantic, flame-spewing tank singlehandedly.

After dispatching the machine, the player character is surrounded by enemy soldiers. But then the sky opens up and spews molten rock and ash across the battlefield, obliterating the opposing armies while the lone warrior is left standing. This scene gives way to an exploration phase, but Sakaguchi has now ended the demo. Think of Lost Odyssey as Dynasty Warriors meets Final Fantasy with a little of The Matrix thrown in.

3:17: Sakaguchi continues by demoing a nearly completed version of Artoon's Blue Dragon, which is certainly more fanciful and lighthearted than Lost Odyssey. The demo features hero Shu and friends making their way through an industrial complex, fighting a series of sentry robots in standard turn-based style, using their quirkily animated sentient shadows as weapons.

Finally the crew reaches a large chamber where a brief cutscene takes place with a couple of dastardly-villain types. A boss fight against a giant, spindly-legged robot ensues. In typical JRPG fashion, lengthy and lavishly animated special attacks are traded back and forth until the robot finally goes down. Shu and posse flee the hangar in a real clunker of an airship before becoming embroiled in a tense situation with a busty, piratical character with an abundance of 'tude. The game's cutscenes look nicely animated from the little we got to see before Sakaguchi ended the presentation.

The Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon demos will be available at TGS, so we'll bring you a more detailed report in the coming days.

3:30: After a lengthy promotional video for Blue Dragon, it looks like the game features all the elements you'd look for in a Japanese RPG: explosive turn-based battles, a job system of sorts, a poignant Nobuo Uematsu-penned score, even an airship! Will it secure Microsoft a foothold in the Japanese market? They sure seem to hope so. The game will go for 7,140 yen ($61).

On the same day, a commemorative Xbox 360 core system including Blue Dragon will be launched for the same price as the core system including PGR3 and Ninety-Nine Nights. Looks like it's just a vanilla system and the game--no special faceplate or anything was shown.

3:36: Sensui retakes the stage one last time with a quick "See you at TGS!" and a demo reel of games to look for at the show, including such high points as Epic's Gears of War, space shooter Project Silpheed, and everyone's favorite party game sequel (ahem) Fuzion Frenzy 2. Keep your eyes on GameSpot for updates on all the hot games for the 360--and everything else--when the Tokyo Game show commences on Friday.

triki1 escribió:And what finer cinematic masterpiece with which to demo the new peripheral than The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift? We're seeing some demo features that can be found in all HD-DVD players, like bookmarks and picture-in-picture commentary. Playback also integrates seamlessly with the dashboard. No big surprises here--except perhaps that you can do video chat while you're watching a movie.

The drive will be hitting the streets November 22 at a price of 20,790 ($177), including tax. But when will it be out in the US?
DOAX 2 a 79$? Estos que se han fumado?

HD-DVD 20790 yenes? 200 dolares? 200 euros? Esto estaria mucho mejor que los 300 que decian en UK.

Lo del DoAX es que vendra con algo de regalo, porque 80 dolares por un juego a dia de hoy es excesivo, y mas si el DoA4 costaba en USA 50 dolares cuando salio.

Edito:
segun el seguimiento de IGN en el bazar hay video nuevo del DoAX. Alguien puede confirmarlo??

Henky escribió:HD-DVD 20790 yenes? 200 dolares? 200 euros? Esto estaria mucho mejor que los 300 que decian en UK.

Lo del DoAX es que vendra con algo de regalo, porque 80 dolares por un juego a dia de hoy es excesivo, y mas si el DoA4 costaba en USA 50 dolares cuando salio.

Pera a ver porque el Lost Planet le ponen a 71$, algo raro pasa aqui.....

No será en version HD -DVD , porque no tiene sentido que ahora suban el precio entre 10-20$, vamos sería la peor estrategia que podria seguir Mcs

Bueno, estan poniendo la demo del Lost Oddisey y pinta muy bien por lo que comentan........cabrones, no dicen nada del Ninja Gaiden 2.

Hay que joderse, el tio le define como una mezcla entre FF, Dinasty Warriors y un toque de Matrix ........Neo,donde estas,Neo?

triki1 escribió:
Pera a ver porque el Lost Planet le ponen a 71$, algo raro pasa aqui.....

El DoA4 en japon cuesta 8190 yenes + tasas, y eso son 62 euros + tasas. Debemos suponer que cuando lleguen aqui costaran lo de siempre.

Aparte de cacao que hay montado en NeoGaf con el asunto del 1080p para juegos o no juegos para solo pelis, con el HD DVD no veo nada novedoso e interesante de momento, vamos, ninguna sorpresa.

Nota de prensa

For Release 4 p.m. Tokyo time/3 a.m. EDT
Sept. 20, 2006
Microsoft Showcases Library of Nearly 110 High-Definition Xbox 360 Games at the Tokyo Game Show
"Blue Dragon” Leads Holiday Lineup of Games; “Pac-Man” World Championship, Xbox 360 HD DVD Player in Japan and 1080p Support for Xbox 360 unveiled.

TOKYO — Sept. 20, 2006 — Today at the Tokyo Game Show 2006, Microsoft Corp. delivered information on new and improved entertainment experiences for Japanese gamers, including details of the Xbox 360™ library of nearly 110 high-definition games available this holiday season in Japan, which will include the highly anticipated “Blue Dragon” from Microsoft Game Studios. Microsoft also paid tribute to NAMCO BANDAI Games and “Pac-Man,” announcing that the first “Pac-Man” World Championship will be held in early 2007 using Xbox 360 and Xbox Live® Arcade. Microsoft also revealed details of other entertainment offerings enabled through Xbox 360, with availability date and pricing provided for the Xbox 360 HD DVD player in Japan, as well as news of an update that will allow the Xbox 360 console to output full 1080p games and video.

At the best-attended gaming convention in the world, Microsoft showcased games that will boost the Xbox 360 software library in Japan to nearly 110 titles by holiday season 2006 as well as more titles coming well into 2007. The Xbox 360 games showcased include “Blue Dragon” (Microsoft Game Studios), “Lost Planet: Extreme Condition” (Capcom), “Dead or Alive: Xtreme 2” (Tecmo Inc.) and the newly announced “Trusty Bell” (NAMCO BANDAI Games), and a host of anticipated Xbox Live Arcade titles. For 2007, Microsoft also announced a pipeline of great games that include the epic role-playing game (RPG) “Infinite Undiscovery” (Microsoft Game Studios).

“The key to winning the hearts and minds of the Japanese market is great games, and this great lineup demonstrates that Xbox 360 has those games in spades,” said Peter Moore, corporate vice president of the Interactive Entertainment Business in the Entertainment and Devices Division at Microsoft. “Our lineup of role-playing games from the acknowledged masters of the genre is proof positive that there has never been a better time for Japanese gamers to jump in and pick up an Xbox 360 system.”

Many game titles, including the much-anticipated epic RPG “Blue Dragon,” will be playable for the first time in the Microsoft® booth at the Tokyo Game Show. Other playable titles include “Lost Odyssey™” (Microsoft Game Studios) and “Viva Piñata™” (Microsoft Game Studios).

Xbox Live Arcade and the “Pac-Man” World Championship

With the creator of “Pac-Man,” Toru Iwatani, onstage Peter Moore announced that Microsoft and NAMCO BANDAI Games will host the first “Pac-Man” World Championship in early 2007. The top 10 players in the world for “Pac-Man” on Xbox Live Arcade will compete for the title in New York City. More details, including how to qualify for the championship, will be made available in the coming months.

Continuing its tremendous momentum, Xbox Live Arcade has also announced in Tokyo a host of exciting new games, including some that will be exclusive to the Japanese market. Gamers will have the opportunity to try a host of new games on the show floor, including the classic side-scroller “Contra” (Konami Corp.), the space-shooter “Gyruss” (Konami), the enemy-popping classic “Dig Dug” (NAMCO BANDAI Games), arcade favorite “Track & Field” (Konami), “New Rally-X” (NAMCO BANDAI Games) “Rush’n Attack” (Konami), a favorite 1980s side-scroller, and the inimitable “Ms. Pac-Man” (NAMCO BANDAI Games). In addition, the Japan-exclusive Xbox Live Arcade game “Yie Ar Kung Fu” (Konami), one of the very first fighting games, was announced for release in 2007.

Xbox 360 HD DVD Player and 1080p Support

Microsoft announced pricing and availability details for the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player in Japan. The accessory will launch on Nov. 17, 2006, priced at ¥19,800 (estimated retail price), and will come with an Xbox 360 Universal Media Remote.

“Xbox 360 and the HD DVD Player together deliver the most powerful and affordable games and movie system for Japanese consumers,” Moore said. “The freedom to choose their entertainment experiences is extremely important for consumers as they enter the next generation.”

In addition, Microsoft announced that its fall software update, scheduled for release later this year, will allow all Xbox 360 consoles around the world to output game and movie content in 1080p resolution.

XNA

Demonstrating its pledge to democratize game development for tomorrow’s game developers, Microsoft announced that four Japanese universities will use its XNA™ Game Studio Express software in educational material and research within their course offerings. The XNA software allows hobbyists, students and independent game developers to create games for Windows® and, for the first time, Xbox 360 with the goal that user-generated games made with XNA will arrive on Xbox Live Marketplace. Tokyo University, Tokyo Polytechnic University, Ritsumeikan University and Osaka Electro-Communication University join the dozens of universities worldwide that have pledged support for Microsoft’s XNA vision and are recognizing the potential of XNA Game Studio Express as an educational tool. As a result, these four schools will integrate XNA software into their game development curricula, labs and games-related research.

“As I turn my attention and passion toward teaching the next generation of game developers, I am thrilled with XNA Game Studio Express and related products,” said Toru Iwatani, a lecturer at Tokyo Polytechnic University and original creator of “Pac-Man.” “I believe that these products are attractive and effective because they create a development environment that matches the skill level and area of expertise, widening the entry of future developers into game development.”

XNA Game Studio Express beta was made available to users worldwide on Aug. 30, 2006. The final version of XNA Game Studio Express will be made available this holiday season.




Microsoft also revealed details of other entertainment offerings enabled through Xbox 360, with availability date and pricing provided for the Xbox 360 HD DVD player in Japan, as well as news of an update that will allow the Xbox 360 console to output full 1080p games and video.

¿ Pero que coño? 1080p con juegos con el lector HD DVD?......... estoy confuso.

Confirmadas demos de Lost Odyssey y Blue Dragon para el TGS, esperemos que esten ambas en el bazar, seria la posha.

1080p en juegos? Con lo que les esta costando sacar un juego a 30fps a 720p? DoAX2 a 1080p..... (aunke mi tele no pasa de 720p)

Parece ser que el Blue Dragon es el tipico RPG japones por turnos...........mmmmmmmmmm, mal asunto para mi.

triki1 escribió:Parece ser que el Blue Dragon es el tipico RPG japones por turnos...........mmmmmmmmmm, mal asunto para mi.

A Sakaguchi le gusta el sistema de turnos, y tanto el Lost Odyssey como Blue Dragon son por turnos, o eso creo.

Por cierto, el HD-DVD a la venta en japon el 17 de noviembre... casualidad?

PD: esto parece un chat entre tu y yo....

PD: esto parece un chat entre tu y yo....

Pues como no se den prisa por mi parte se acaba pronto el chat, que tengo que ducharme y volar para el curro pero rapidamente




Un par de imagenes del Trusty Bell..... no se aprecia una mierda en la segunda imagen, esperemos que saquen los videos despues de la conferencia.

OOOOOOooooooo

He leido Fatal Fury Special para XBLA, mis amigos se van a morir de envidia....

Con esto y el Ninja Gaiden 2 ya estoy servido!!

triki1 escribió:Parece ser que el Blue Dragon es el tipico RPG japones por turnos...........mmmmmmmmmm, mal asunto para mi.

+2

Blue Dragon

triki1 escribió:Pues como no se den prisa por mi parte se acaba pronto el chat, que tengo que ducharme y volar para el curro pero rapidamente

Yo ya estoy currando

Ya ha terminado la conferencia? Lo de LO y BD es lo ultimo? En gamespot ya no ponen nada, en ign estan actualizando aun, dando algunos detalles mas de LO que en gamespot.

Henky escribió:Yo ya estoy currando

Ya ha terminado la conferencia? Lo de LO y BD es lo ultimo? En gamespot ya no ponen nada, en ign estan actualizando aun, dando algunos detalles mas de LO que en gamespot.

¿ Donde leches esta el enlace de IGN? es que yo lo estaba mirando por Gamespot. Por cierto, conferencia acabada.

triki1 escribió:
¿ Donde leches esta el enlace de IGN? es que yo lo estaba mirando por Gamespot.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/733/733647p1.html

Ahi lo tienes.

ARG!! Quiero ese Blue Dragon!! Me encanta esa estetica anime de toriyama!! Espero que este a la altura de lo que esperamos.

Edito: vale, no, no ha terminado en gamespot, y confirman que Blue Dragon es por turnos tambien.

Por cierto, dando una vuelta por el bazar japo no he visto nada nuevo colgado, esperaremos a ver si esta noche se anima la cosa en este aspecto.

Blue Dragon el 7 de diciembre en japon....

Esperemos que en el X06 anuncien fechas europeas del hd-dvd y de los juegos.

ahhhhh 7 de diciembre.... ufff que susto crei que era diciembre del 2007

Hola jefe, ¿porque llego tarde? mmm, no se lo va a creer...

Pocas cosas! queremos mas!

Yo aqui toy montando guardia! que pa eso estoy de vacaciones! voy a enchufar la blanquita y a garbear por ahi no sea que cuelguen algo nuevo! yo os aviso! si veis algo nuevo pa bajar avisar!

30 mintos para el XBlive arcade
que sale?

Como 30 minutos pa ra que?

alguien me podria traducir esto¿? :

Sonic The Hedgehog- und Tenchu-Demos geplant

20.09.06 - Peter Moore von Microsoft hat auf dem 'Xbox 360 Media Briefing' in Tokio bestätigt, dass Sonic The Hedhehog (Sega) und Tenchu Senran (From Software) zu den spielbaren Demos gehören werden, die während der Tokyo Game Show (22.09.06 - 24.09.06) über Xbox Live angeboten werden.

pone que tendremos demo del sonic del 22 al 24 de septiembre ??

Eso parece, igual que la demo del Tenchu, que de momento solo esta en el bazar japones.

javi_xavi escribió:[comor?] Como 30 minutos pa ra que?

Los miercoles sale un juego de XBox Live Arcade.
Y lo ultimo que se decia que es a las 10 de la mañana cuando salen.

Aun no hay nada.. umm..

aaaaam ok

jjoseca escribió:alguien me podria traducir esto¿? :

Sonic The Hedgehog- und Tenchu-Demos geplant

20.09.06 - Peter Moore von Microsoft hat auf dem 'Xbox 360 Media Briefing' in Tokio bestätigt, dass Sonic The Hedhehog (Sega) und Tenchu Senran (From Software) zu den spielbaren Demos gehören werden, die während der Tokyo Game Show (22.09.06 - 24.09.06) über Xbox Live angeboten werden.

pone que tendremos demo del sonic del 22 al 24 de septiembre ??

demo sonic el 22 y tenchu el 24 o eso es lo que creo leer.

Los miercoles sale un juego de XBox Live Arcade.

xbox LA wednesdays ya terminó.

Eso creia yo hasta que vi el miercoles pasado, no, el otro como sacaban el añadido del UNO y este pasado miercoles como sacaban el Time Pilot...

Por el Live lo comente y me dijeron que se dice que dura hasta fin de año y que se fijaron que salian los miercoles por las 10 de la mañana.

Pero vamos.. con el X06 y el TGS 2006.. que me da que es lo de menos.

Quiero Demo Multijugador Lost Planet en Bazar !!

Joder que pintaza tienen todos esos RPG's japos

El Trusty Bell me recuerda un monton al Radiata Stories, sobretodo en los combates.

Bien bien, se confirma el 7 de diciembre Blue Dragon y el 22 Lost Planet .

A ver si hay suerte y las versiones Asia están disponibles a la vez y con subs en inglés .

Triki1, de Blue Dragon se comentó que sería lo más parecido al rpg por turnos tradicional, para ver si enganchan a la gente con el parecido a Dragon Quest.

El Lost Odissey es el que supuestamente aún siendo también por turnos, innovará en muchos más aspectos.

A ver si nos alegran la semanita y publican en el bazar las demos de ambos en el bazar!!

Por cierto, esperaba algún otro anuncio, no ya lo de NG2 que lo doy por hecho sino algún otro nuevo título a la altura de los comentados.