Input paradox... WTF!!!???

DjScream3 escribió:Premio al post mas ladrillo de la semana





por el trozo que e leido digo yo... que mas da que salga una barra tipo "golf" que un giro de imagen o otro efecto?


Salu2!

evilquake escribió:yo sigo pensando que la mayoría de juegos se podran jugar con ambos mandos sin ningun problema... por ejemplo eso dijeron de smash bros...

patodegoma escribió:Eso mismo que dices sobre la wii podria estar pasando ya en la DS y si te das cuenta tras el boom inicial en el que todos los juegos te ponian a usar la tactil solo para que la usaras ahora la cosa se ha calmado y quien no quiere implementarlo en su juego no lo implementa y el que quiere basar su juego en la tactil lo basa.

Pos algo asi va a pasar con la wii. Al principio todos los juegos usaran el mando hasta para ir al baño y con el tiempo la cosa se calmara y quien de verdad tenga ideas las usara y quien no las tenga sacaran el juego sin usar casi esa opcion.

MTV escribió:NEW YORK — Mike Chrzanowski wants you to try to break the Marvel superhero game he's working on. Just try. He expects you to fail.

Flick your wrist to shoot Spider-Man's webs and shake your hand to spin Thor's hammer. Five gestures trigger the moves of any one of the pantheon of Marvel heroes included in this fall's "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance." The Nintendo Wii game is published by Activision and developed by Vicarious Visions in upstate New York, where the tall, long-haired Chrzanowski serves as an associate designer.

Five moves do it all, from hurling Captain America's shield to throwing a Wolverine-clawed uppercut. Shake the Wii remote. Jab it forward. Lift it up. Press it down. Or cut it sharply to the side, left or right. On an Xbox 360, the same moves can be triggered with a press of a button or a staccato press of a few. If the Wii controls sound imprecise, well that was a problem a few weeks ago. But on the day of the interview, and the day the game comes out, there will be no — OK, almost no — fooling the Wii.

"Now in some cases people will do something that's not going to work right, and in that case they're probably going to have to adjust the way they do it," said Chrzanowski, a black Wii development controller in hand. "But that's a rare case."

He wasn't talking idly. He said a system developed by a Vicarious colleague, Jesse Raymond, a few weeks ago has been crunching the data of dozens of players who have tested the game on the Wii, analyzing the results of requests for players to do 10 swipes in a row or 10 stabs in a row, recognizing which moves the current version of the game fails to recognize as the intended gesture, tweaking the code, checking the pool of data from the gesture trials again for any new misunderstandings, repeat and recode, again and again. The result? "Within a week it went from being 60 to 70 percent reliable to 97 percent reliable," Chrzanowski said.

Like he said, don't expect the Wii to get confused.

Developers have been coming to grips with Nintendo's motion-sensitive Wii controller for the better part of the year. In the past few weeks, some of the first American teams that have sweated it out for the Nintendo console's upcoming launch have begun to talk publicly about what they figured out.

Last week in a midtown hotel room, an Activision producer showcased the glitzier high-definition version of "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance" for the Xbox 360. Then Chrzanowski took the baton to demo the Wii version. In the near-final build being demonstrated, a pull-down menu on the upper right corner showed diagrams of each superpower's Wii gesture. And every time the player made a move, the diagram for that move flashed at the bottom of the screen, reinforcing Wii rookies' understanding of what they just did. (The latter option can be turned off).

"Marvel: Ultimate Alliance" will be familiar to gamers who have battled through Activision's Marvel adventures before. Players pick a quartet of Marvel heroes from a roster of dozens and, from an overhead view, muscle them through hideouts and hallways, pummeling waves of villains and henchmen.

Opportunity abounded when Vicarious Visions was assigned to make the Wii version of the game. So did temptation. Vicarious' developers were proud how quickly the company adopted Nintendo's last unconventional game system, the stylus-driven DS, and wanted to prove they were quick studies on the Wii as well. More enticing still was the subject matter at hand for the first Wii project: characters known for their memorable gestures. Spider-Man shoots his webs with a flick of his wrist. Wolverine reveals his claws with a forearm shudder. Thor twirls his hammer, and Captain America hurls a shield. Here was a company and a cluster of characters ideally suited for getting the most out of the Wii controller and for maybe pushing the idea of motion control a little too hard too soon.

"Early on I had, like, 20 gestures," Chrzanowski said. His bosses at Vicarious told him to tone things down because they didn't think people could remember all of that. Stripped down to a handful, the gestures were initially really big. To do something super you'd have to make a super-sized move.

"We had an extreme level of effort and you had to whip the controller like that," Chrzanowski said, making a big swing of his arm. "I went home and was like, 'Wow, my arm's stronger.' "

The point of the game, though, wasn't to deliver a workout. And so they made the game accommodate a broader range of moves.

"You can swing the controller around like a madman if you want to and get all immersed in it, or a basic flick of the wrist will get everything accomplished." The analog stick on the Wii's nunchuck attachment controls movement.

Just as the team working on Activision's "Tony Hawk" Wii game messed around with taping the Wii controller to a skateboard and other unusual applications, Vicarious Visions explored some detours of its own. Before focusing the gesture controls on triggering superhero moves, the developers considered making a point-and-click version of the game using just the Wii remote. Then they tried a version Chrzanowski described as "tilt and roll," in which tilting the remote forward made a character walk forward; a tilt back made them move back; and rolls to the left and right made the character turn in the respective direction. "That was cool, but we felt we could have done more," he said.

They're doing more but being sure not to do too much more. Chrzanowski controlled the game like a shy conductor leading a symphony, with small, fluid, consecutive motions. He felt good as he demoed. And he didn't seem to get the Wii confused. Neither did two reporters testing the machine. There will be a few more guinea pigs when the game launches later this year.