Ahasverus escribió:I'd like to start this post explaining that this is a very important topic for a lot of people (even if it doesn't affect that much the American market) still, I'd like to hear your opinion.
In 2004, when Microsoft launched Halo 2 it was universally acclaimed, but for their Spanish-speaking fans (both in Spain and America) they decided to dub the game in what they called "neutral Spanish" (some kind of made-up language that mixes several Spanish dialects and accents), and they had the brilliant idea of dubbing it in LA with a bunch of non-professional actors. The result was a huge DISASTER, completely out of place for their flagship franchise. Let me show this to you:
>> This one is downright awful, the worst quality scene in the entire game
>> Another great example. Tartarus and 343GS have horrible voice acting
This is far beyond bad. It's horrible. This is not a post about accents, the voice work for Halo 2 in Spanish was terrible. But Microsoft stated, back in the day: "Halo 2 is so good, our spanish-speaking friends will soon forget about the voice acting". Amazing. Just amazing. It's incredibly disrespectful to millions of fans out there (Spanish is the most spoken language in the world right after English). Many people disliked that dub, both in Spain and America, so Microsoft decided to correctly dub the future Halos, both in Spain's "Castilian" and in America's "Latin" (and the new games have a way more professional voice acting for both regions).
Now, 10 years later, Microsoft decides to bring us Halo 2 Anniversary, and everyone was expecting better this time. So, a small group of fans contacted Microsoft Ibérica (Microsoft in Spain), because we thought that a 10th Anniversary edition was a GOLDEN opportunity to ammend their mistake and give us a proper dub for what it is probably the best entry in the series. But now they are still doing things aiming for the worst case scenario:
We will get Halo 2 Anniversary in full English, not even subtitles.
This is absurd due to one main reason: Halo - The Master Chief Collection has a pretty awesome launcher that allows user to remix all the campaigns in customized playlists. What's the point in playing some levels in Spanish and then suddenly play others that come in full English, without even sub texts? It's nonsense, and will make our experience very awkward. Halo deserves better. Why are they doing this? We can't know for sure, but what's sure is this:
Spanish-speaking users are the only ones who will get Halo 2 without localization. It's amazing that things like this still happen in 2014.
Yesterday, a group of Italian journalists that are aware of our situation asked 343i about this at Gamescom, and they told them that maybe they could reconsider adding a Spanish dub in the future as DLC... but it would only be the original one!! So we have the worst possible scenario here, either we get the game in full english or we get the hideous voice acting from 2004 (you can see the full story here):
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http://halo2anniversary.blogspot.com...-sobre-el.htmlNow a lot of fans are running a quite successful petition to ask Micrsoft for a proper localization for their biggest franchise in gaming. They can't be wrong again 10 years after that mess. We want a decent voicework in Spanish for Halo 2 Anniversary. Why?
- It's absurd to sell us a Collection with 3 games in Spanish and one in full English.
- Fans can't be learning other languages every time they want to enjoy their favorite games.
- You don't enjoy a game the same way if it's playing in another language, or if you have to be constantly reading texts instead of paying attention to the action.
- Halo is Microsoft's flagship franchise and it certainly deserves better.
This is why we are humbly asking you for a little help to our cause. We've created 2 petitions for users to vote in.
First (the most successful one), on Xbox Feedback:
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https://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/25...-en-castellanoAnd another one in Change.org:
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http://www.change.org/es/peticiones/...-2-anniversaryFinally, a Reddit thread:
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http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comment..._unhappy_with/And also (which is amazing!) Claude Errera himself from Halo.Bungie.Org also showed us his support:
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http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=40538There's also a Facebook page and a dedicated blog that is updated constantly with every new bit of information we can get:
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https://www.facebook.com/Halo2A>>
http://halo2anniversary.blogspot.com.es/We've also contacted the media, and the response has been huge so far:
1.- PSNOW
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http://psnow.es/noticias/surge-una-p...2-anniversary/2.- LOGROSXBOX
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http://www.logrosxbox.com/foro/gener...o-t104616.html3.- SOMOSXBOX
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http://www.somosxbox.com/foros/14620...l#.U9ji0_l_v75 AND
http://www.somosxbox.com/foros/14615...astellano.html4.- 3DJUEGOS
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http://www.3djuegos.com/noticia/1440...ef-collection/5.- HOBBYCONSOLAS
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http://www.hobbyconsolas.com/noticia...stellano-769546.- GAMERFRAGS
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http://www.gamerfrags.es/halo-2-anni...je/26/06/2014/7.- VRUTAL
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http://www.vrutal.com/noticias/2199-...-al-castellano8.- GAMESCUSTOM
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http://es.gamescustom.com/103380/pet...-al-castellano9.- NEXTGAMER
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http://nextgamer.es/noticias/xbox-on...-2-anniversary10.- BLOGDEUNOSGAMERS.BLOGSPOT
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http://blogdeunosgamers.blogspot.com...astellano.html11.- IGN
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http://es.ign.com/xbox-one-gaming-ha...y-en-castellan12.- XBOXMANIAC
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http://www.xboxmaniac.es/noticias/ha...de-de-ti-2984/13.- VANDAL
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http://www.vandal.net/noticia/135065...al-castellano/14.- GAMEIT
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http://www.gameit.es/los-espanoles-p...al-castellano/15.- ALFABETAJUEGA
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http://www.alfabetajuega.com/noticia...d-aqui-n-3974516.- TODOJUEGOS
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http://www.todojuegos.com/noticia-19...-2-Anniversary17.- VICIOJUEGOS
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http://www.viciojuegos.com/foro-apor...lano/1620351/118.- HYPEBEYOND
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http://www.hypebeyond.com/t13609-usu...highlight=HALO19.- BLOGOCIO
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http://blogocio.net/se-abre-la-petic...sary-no-77891/20.- XGN
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http://www.xgn.es/noticias/100345/fa...-en-castellano21.- MUNDOGAMERS
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http://www.mundogamers.com/noticia-h...mica.6933.html22.- DIARIOTECNOLOGIA
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http://www.diariotecnologia.es/petic.../#.U9kOGfl_v7423.- ELHACKER
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http://foro.elhacker.net/noticias/us...t417479.0.html24.- 365NOTICIAS
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http://365noticias.net/ver/halo-2-an...enera-polemica25.- ANAITGAMES
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http://www.anaitgames.com/noticias/h...tellano-espana26.- CRIBEO
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http://www.cribeo.com/ocio_y_cultura...-2-anniversary27.- CUANTARAZON
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http://www.cuantarazon.com/914984/en...nos-hagan-caso28.- HALO.BUNGIE.ORG
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http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=4053829.- 17K GUARDIANS
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http://www.halo.17kgroup.it/sc/5604-...hiedono-aiuto/30.- KINGDOMGAME
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http://kingdomgame.it/news/6570-halo...chiedono-aiuto31. VIDAEXTRA
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http://www.vidaextra.com/fps/halo-2-...-al-castellano32.- REDDIT
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http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comment..._unhappy_with/The biggest Halo community in Italy also joined the cause:
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http://www.halo.17kgroup.it/sc/5604-...hiedono-aiuto/But it's still not enough. We need help to get more strength for the cause. We kindly ask to you consider giving a vote on Xbox Feedback or Change.org. Please let's show Microsoft that they should consider this fan petition as something important to their users. It's absurd that every other country gets their localization while we Spanish-speakers only get plain English.
Although this may sound like an impossible task, there IS in fact a precedent:
HALF LIFE 2: EPISODE TWO
Back in the day, we got the news that it would only come in English, while the previous Episode and the original game were fully dubbed:
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http://www.meristation.com/playstati...521428/1645875Did we make it? Well, here is your answer (spoiler alert: YES!):
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http://www.vidaextra.com/fps/half-li...aje-al-espanolThis example only gives us more strength, and taught as a very important lesson: you can get results if you keep fighting for them. If the guys at Valve made it, why shouldn't Microsoft follow? They still have time to get the voice acting into the final game at launch.
We hope that this post is as important to you as it is to us. Thanks a lot for reading, for understanding, and for helping.
It's time to finish this fight.
