JBC escribió:pd: Para el que sepa ingles o traducir jajaja diferencias entre HD-DVD y BRD en la pelicula de 300, son unas cuantas aqui las enumeran:
JBC escribió:Pues estas perdonado ajjaja pues depende de en que zona de españa vivas, el ADD-ON de 360 ami me costo 128,90 por ebay, pero existen muchas vias, si vives en "malaga" por ejemplo o en otras zonas que no sean barcelona o madrid, acercate alos mediamark y game, y podras encontrarlo a precios 129,90 o 139,90, eso si sin peliculas, si compras el addon en amazon podras solicitar las pelis por correo como mucha gente hace y te llegan a casa, aun asi yo prefiero comprarlo aqui y miraria en mediamarks y eso, en bcn no suele bajar de 189 o 199 segun el sitio, asi que mira si alguien te lo puede traer a un precio razonable o obtar como yo a uno de segunda mano, en mi caso la factura me llego por correo, asi que hacia 10 dias, contando que el envio tardo 1, tenia 9 dias el lector, un saludo y espero haberte ayudado!! ahhh por si eres de BCN o madrid, otra solucion es el patrocinador de EOL Discoazul lo tienes a tu izquierda en tu monitor, el precio es de 179 eur, un saludo !!!
The rights to “300” belong to Warner Home Video – a studio that backs both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc – but the studio has graced the HD DVD version with several exclusive features that currently can be found nowhere else.
Found only on the HD DVD version is the "Bluescreen Picture-in-Picture Version" of the film. As “300” was shot almost completely in a bluescreen-laden warehouse in Canada, the raw footage differs greatly from the movie’s final look. Viewers are able to directly compare the before and after shots through a picture-in-picture window that can be dynamically enabled or disabled. Running alongside the pre-processed footage is an exclusive commentary track by director Zack Snyder recorded specifically for the special feature.
The bluescreen supplement is not found on the Blu-ray Disc version of the film, but Warner Home Video’s decision to include it only the HD DVD version is unlikely due to any sort of format favoritism. Current mandatory Blu-ray Disc player specifications do not include the feature set to allow for picture-in-picture video.
The Blu-ray Disc Association has mandated that all players of the format released after October 31, 2007 must support BD Java, a programming language for Blu-ray Disc media used mainly to deliver picture-in-picture for in-movie commentary and special features.
The HD DVD equivalent of this enabling feature, called HDi, is already standard on all HD DVD players. Rather than being based on Java, however, HDi is built on Microsoft’s XML standards.
Another feature that points out the feature differences between the two high-definition player specifications is HD DVD’s requirement of being Internet-connectivity ready. Recent firmware updates for HD DVD players, which are obtainable via the web, have enabled “Web Content” features for specific movie titles.
“300” on HD DVD takes advantage of online content by allowing the viewer to browse and purchase movie-related items, such as ringtones and wallpapers, for use on mobile phones – another feature that is exclusive to the movie’s release on the format.
The CGI-filled film isn’t Warner Home Video’s first unequal release on high-definition. The studio released “Blood Diamond” first on Blu-ray Disc, and then weeks later released the HD DVD version with picture-in-picture commentary. The studio is also holding back certain titles from a Blu-ray Disc release – that are already available on HD DVD – at least until BD-Java becomes mandatory. Such titles include “Batman Begins,” “V for Vendetta” and the “Matrix Trilogy.”
Although it may appear that the current Blu-ray Disc version of “300” is completely inferior to the HD DVD version, it does feature one additional audio option. The Blu-ray Disc version of the film includes an additional uncompressed audio track that is encoded in Linear PCM 5.1. The extra audio track is likely exclusive to Blu-ray disc due to the format’s extra 20GB of storage space. The video encodes on both high-definition versions, presented in VC-1, are identical.
“The HD DVD of 300 is clearly the superior version, boasting some exclusive special features such as a picture-in-picture bluescreen version of the film, web-enabled extras and more,” said optical storage analyst Wesley Novack. “The only exclusive feature found on the Blu-ray Disc version of the release is the uncompressed PCM audio track, which is nearly identical to the TrueHD audio found on the HD DVD release.”
For Blu-ray Disc player owners who are missing the bluescreen picture-in-picture feature, there may be hope of a second release of “300” following the implementation of BD Java. According to Home Media Magazine, Deborah Snyder, executive producer and wife of director Zack Snyder of the film, at a Comic-Con International panel said that the picture-in-picture feature wasn’t yet ready for Blu-ray Disc, and added, “I think there’s going to be another Blu-ray special edition later on.”
Another report from the panel recorded Deborah Snyder as saying that a later edition of the movie will also include storyboards and production artwork in addition to the bluescreen footage. The Digital Bits recalled that the producer’s comments sent several Warner representatives in a state of nervousness and shock. Warner Home Video did not comment on whether or not there would be another release of “300” on Blu-ray Disc with additional features.
For owners of players of both high-definition formats, the choice between which to buy today may come down to more than just the special feature bullet-points. Interestingly enough, the Blu-ray Disc version of “300” retails for several dollars less than the HD DVD version, but it’s not because of its shorter feature list.
As Novack explained, “These exclusive extra features are not the catalyst that caused the slightly higher MSRP on the HD DVD compared to the Blu-ray version. In reality, the higher price is due to the combo disc format, which includes a standard DVD version on the flip-side of the disc. And with a rumor that Warner might be releasing another version of ‘300’ in the future, with interactive features included next time, the HD DVD version looks like the version to jump on at this point in time.”
Ferdopa escribió:Jur...
no e visto ni una sola comparativa que le de mas audio al brd y eso que e mirado en muchas paginas incluido en highdefdigest que se supone que son "neutrales" pues no digo que sea mentira, pero que la calidad sera inapreciable para el oido humano
No he dicho que la calidad de audio sea mejor, sino que en el apartado de sonido, la edición BD es mejor que la HD-DVD porque incluye una pista PCM sin comprimir además de las DD True HD y DD normales, pista PCM que no está incluida en la edición HD-DVD.
Un saludo.
JBC escribió:tanto importa lo del combo ? yo sinceramente no me gusta mucho pero almenos podre aprovechar la pelicula yo, desde mi cuarto con HD-DVD mis padres en el comedor con su DVD, mi hermana, y algun colega, vamos, que se le sacara mas provecho ala peli, nos joda o no... un saludo! y yo nada mas salga la pillare.
Ferdopa escribió:No es tema que lo quiera el HD-DVD, sino que a mayores Warner ha puesto una pista PCM en la edición BD.... y siempre es de agradecer cuantas más pistas, extras y opciones mejor ¿no?
Ferdopa escribió:Sobre la calidad de True HD vs PCM... no es bueno generalizar. Depende de muchos factores, y hay usuarios que sólo pueden utilizar pistas PCM en sus equipos para disfrutar de sonido multicanal sin comprimir.
Ferdopa escribió:A día de hoy, se considera que la mejor (o una de las mejores) pista multicanal de sonido editada en HD-DVD/BD es la PCM que incluye el directo de Chris Botti, un 5.1 96Khz 24Bit a 13,8 Mbps.
PASODETOD escribió:Pero ..... el tema es que esa pista pcm es solo en ingles no?
Pues para mi eso no es interesante , pero lo que si que me jode es el combo:no compro yo combo ni loco
Asi que si en hd-dvd solo sale combo y el blu ray no tiene ime pero tiene pcm (cosa que me importa nada) ,acabaria comprando el blu ray por el asco que me dan los combos
Ferdopa escribió:Jur...
Ya he visto algo de 300 (unos 15 minutos)... y su calidad como BD/HD-DVD (son iguales, misma pista de imagen y codec) es decepcionante desde el punto de vista de lo que pueden dar los formatos:
http://www.elotrolado.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=1708690362#post1708690362
Un saludo.
Ferdopa escribió:Jur...
Ya he visto algo de 300 (unos 15 minutos)... y su calidad como BD/HD-DVD (son iguales, misma pista de imagen y codec) es decepcionante desde el punto de vista de lo que pueden dar los formatos:
http://www.elotrolado.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=1708690362#post1708690362
Un saludo.
Ferdopa escribió:Jur...
Y aún así, ha sido la película HD más vendida hasta el momento.
Aunque la noticia salió ayer... hoy se conocen todos los datos.
300 vende 250.000 copias en HD
Today Warner Home Video (WHV) announced that it has the fastest and highest-selling high definition title in the market with the epic action-adventure, “300.” Since July 31, 2007, “300” has sold more than 250,000 copies to consumers on HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070806006367&newsLang=en
Sin embargo, y tal como hizo con el anuncio de The Departed, Warner no dice que cifras de venta ha tenido cada uno de los dos formatos.
Sin embargo, Usa Today da hoy las cifras completas.
De las 250.000 copias, 88.000 son de HD-DVD... y 162.000 de Blu-Ray
So far, the Blu-ray Disc version of 300 is outselling the HD DVD version, 65% to 35%. According to Home Media Research, that mirrors the overall sales pattern this year (Jan-June), with Blu-ray accounting for 67% and 33% for HD DVD
http://blogs.usatoday.com/technologylive/2007/08/blu-ray-continu.html#more
Un saludo.
Ferdopa escribió:ha influido [...] que la edición HD-DVD es combo, un formato odiado por muchos...