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MisterZodiac escribió:Si alguien ha reservado en GAME que avise,que en la web está en click y recoger jajaja un saludo!
XXIV escribió:@Galon_2000 si está esa oferta, llevas dos juegos y te dan diez euros más a parte de la valoración, me han enviado ese correo de publicidad y yo lo pillaré asi
poliya7 escribió:¿Se sabe para cuando estarán los análisis? Aun estoy en duda, y aunque los análisis los cojo con pinzas, para hacerme una idea...
hard.d escribió:La lista de trofeos!el primero fue un platino muy entretenido de sacar!a ver este q tal!
https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/6754-m ... dow-of-war
BigBoss_ escribió:¿Se sabe resolución y mejoras en PS4 Pro?
Reservoir escribió:En las reviews estan diciendo que para ver el verdadero final del videojuego hay dos opciones justo tras el cuarto acto. Dicen que puedes utilizar las microtransacciones para conseguir ese final, o bien jugar horas y horas y horas hasta conseguir los items necesarios.
Me esta mosqueando bastante eso y estoy por cancelar la reserva.
Reservoir escribió:En las reviews estan diciendo que para ver el verdadero final del videojuego hay dos opciones justo tras el cuarto acto. Dicen que puedes utilizar las microtransacciones para conseguir ese final, o bien jugar horas y horas y horas hasta conseguir los items necesarios.
Me esta mosqueando bastante eso y estoy por cancelar la reserva.
Reservoir escribió:En las reviews estan diciendo que para ver el verdadero final del videojuego hay dos opciones justo tras el cuarto acto. Dicen que puedes utilizar las microtransacciones para conseguir ese final, o bien jugar horas y horas y horas hasta conseguir los items necesarios.
Me esta mosqueando bastante eso y estoy por cancelar la reserva.
MisterZodiac escribió:Yo esperaré a jugarlo. Fue uno de los mejores juegos que he jugado (Mordor) y no me quedaré con las ganas. Yo creo que si hay muchas quejas lo arreglaran en un parche,yo no le daría más vueltas.
Reservoir escribió:En las reviews estan diciendo que para ver el verdadero final del videojuego hay dos opciones justo tras el cuarto acto. Dicen que puedes utilizar las microtransacciones para conseguir ese final, o bien jugar horas y horas y horas hasta conseguir los items necesarios.
Me esta mosqueando bastante eso y estoy por cancelar la reserva.
soyun escribió:Reservoir escribió:En las reviews estan diciendo que para ver el verdadero final del videojuego hay dos opciones justo tras el cuarto acto. Dicen que puedes utilizar las microtransacciones para conseguir ese final, o bien jugar horas y horas y horas hasta conseguir los items necesarios.
Me esta mosqueando bastante eso y estoy por cancelar la reserva.
Yo hasta que no se sepa cuántas son esas "horas y horas y horas" no diré nada. Si hay que grindear 50 horas para sacar el final verdadero, pues una cerdada. Pero si hay que grindear unas cuantas horas, no sería el primer juego en el que hay que hacerlo.
Galon_2000 escribió:MisterZodiac escribió:Yo esperaré a jugarlo. Fue uno de los mejores juegos que he jugado (Mordor) y no me quedaré con las ganas. Yo creo que si hay muchas quejas lo arreglaran en un parche,yo no le daría más vueltas.
Yo no voy a cancelar reserva por eso. Pienso igual que tú.
En el análisis de hobby consolas dicen que para ver el final, tienes que jugar 10 niveles de no se qué modo.
However, Shadow Wars is spoiled by two major issues.
First, it’s not just postgame content. While the main plot of Shadow of War wraps up in relatively tidy fashion before act four begins, Monolith has confirmed that there is a “true ending” hidden behind Shadow Wars. I love the idea of offering dozens of hours of grindy yet fun content for players who really adore this game to sink their teeth into. But that works better as an option rather than a looming obligation for completionists. Having the game’s real finale locked away behind those dozens of hours — hours that, while fun, are devoid of story missions, side quests, cutscenes or other distractions that help mix up the pace — is a disappointment.
When you run out of in-game money, you have two choices: Make a huge time investment by hunting down orcs in your game world and earning chests via vendetta missions, or spend some real money to get the more powerful orcs you need now. Does the game ever force you to spend money? No. I’m sure you can get to the end of Shadow Wars without spending a dime, as long as you’re patient and persistent. But locking progress through this mode (and, again, toward the game’s true ending) behind either spending more money or doing tons of tedious busywork feels at least greedy if not predatory.
Tukaram escribió:
@cadeformidable en el de Polygon lo dicen dejan claro que no son un par de horas de grindeo precisamente
en el circo español llamado prensa de videojuegos no te preocupes que JAMAS van ha hacer mencion a algo asi no lo han hecho con el NBA y su abusivo sacaperrismo te crees que lo van a hacer con esto ?
:Having the game’s real finale locked away behind those dozens of hours — hours that, while fun, are devoid of story missions, side quests, cutscenes or other distractions that help mix up the pace — is a disappointment.
Tukaram escribió:analisis entero aki
Having the game’s real finale locked away behind those dozens of hours — hours that, while fun, are devoid of story missions, side quests, cutscenes or other distractions that help mix up the pace — is a disappointment.
Ala ya podeis seguir defendiendolo
@cadeformidable bueno si para ti tener que estar unas 40 horas de mas SOLO MATANDO ORCOS y tal solo para obtener los recursos necesarios para pasarte el juego estas de enhorabuena a mi desde luego me parece una cerdada de cojones forzarte a pegarte semejante monton de horas que al final acabaran siendo tediosas aburridas y repetitivas para que la gente acabe pasando por caja
pero vamos eso de meterle tropecientas horas de tedio y relleno a un juego para forzar el paso por caja del usuario para sangrarle mas pasta se esta convirtiendo cada dia mas en algo habitual y me toca mucho los cojones
Salu2
cadeformidable escribió:Es que sombras de mordor y Sombras de guerra(por lo que parece) es eso, matar orcos, trastear con el sistema nemesis. Tendré mas de 100 horas echas en Steam al primero, imaginate cual será la proporción de historia y cual de simple trasteo con el nemesis xD
cadeformidable escribió:Tukaram escribió:analisis entero aki
Having the game’s real finale locked away behind those dozens of hours — hours that, while fun, are devoid of story missions, side quests, cutscenes or other distractions that help mix up the pace — is a disappointment.
Ala ya podeis seguir defendiendolo
@cadeformidable bueno si para ti tener que estar unas 40 horas de mas SOLO MATANDO ORCOS y tal solo para obtener los recursos necesarios para pasarte el juego estas de enhorabuena a mi desde luego me parece una cerdada de cojones forzarte a pegarte semejante monton de horas que al final acabaran siendo tediosas aburridas y repetitivas para que la gente acabe pasando por caja
pero vamos eso de meterle tropecientas horas de tedio y relleno a un juego para forzar el paso por caja del usuario para sangrarle mas pasta se esta convirtiendo cada dia mas en algo habitual y me toca mucho los cojones
Salu2
Es que sombras de mordor y Sombras de guerra(por lo que parece) es eso, matar orcos, trastear con el sistema nemesis. Tendré mas de 100 horas echas en Steam al primero, imaginate cual será la proporción de historia y cual de simple trasteo con el nemesis xD
Ademas en el extracto que mencionas lo dice, docenas de horas si, pero que mientras divertidas estan carentes de historia y bla bla bla. Repito, comprendo que a no todo el mundo le guste, pero yo es que precisamente a este juego lo que mas iba a estar haciendo es "jugar" con los orcos, mas aun con el añadido del sistema de loot, leveleo de orcos y demas. Y repito, opino que eso deberia ser un postgame despues de pasarte el verdadero final, no algo obligado para ver dicho final.
Salu2!!
Tukaram escribió:Lo dicho estas de enhorabuena porque ahora ya tienes "excusa" para pagarte horas y horas trasteando con orcos
a y de propina los orcos legendarios SOLO apareceran si PAGAS dinero en las cajas asi que otro detalle mas a añadir a la mezcla y es que para variar mintieron cuando dijeron que todo se podria sacar sin pagar
una vez mas la avaricia extrema se impone en el mundillo
Salu2
Tukaram escribió:
a y de propina los orcos legendarios SOLO apareceran si PAGAS dinero en las cajas asi que otro detalle mas a añadir a la mezcla y es que para variar mintieron cuando dijeron que todo se podria sacar sin pagar
una vez mas la avaricia extrema se impone en el mundillo
Salu2
Attempt to trigger Epic and Legendary Orc drops
The Nemesis system ensures that any Orc soldier that manages to take you out in battle gets promoted to an Orc Captain. You can game this system to your advantage by purposefully throwing a battle with a specific Orc you want to encounter later in the game to Dominate and add to your control. This is where you get to be a little more selective about the Orcs you’ll have under your command.
If you decide you’d like to have a specific Orc with a particular talent, simply challenge that Orc when you find him in battle and die when you two inevitably clash. It’s important that you make sure you’re being killed by the Orc you have in mind, however, because there are usually so many traveling in a pack at the same time. If this happens, just restart from a previous save.
This is the difficult part, but you’re not done yet. You have to wait for the Orc to spawn as a new character. There’s no guarantee you’re going to get a special Orc that’s Legendary or Epic, but it’s worth a shot. This method doesn’t cost anything but time either, although getting killed can be a frustrating endeavor, especially since you’re doing it on purpose over and over. If you’re looking to avoid spending money, this is a reliable method.
This one is a no-brainer. As you adventure through Mordor, you're going to run into a ton of Orc Captains, and some of them will be Epic or Legendary. What rarity Orcs spawn at is out of your hands, but it's worth tracking down these warriors and claiming them as your own.
Most of the time higher tier Orcs will have some immunities and strengths that your run of the mill captains don't. When hunting an Epic or Legendary Orc, it's worth tracking down a Worm to find out more information on your target so you can be prepared. For example, if you're a player that prefers to fight from range, it's definitely a good thing to know if an Orc is immune to arrows.
This is the cheapest way to get Orcs, and it's not too hard, but you also can't predict when an Epic or Legendary Orc will spawn. You can hack and slash through the regular captains in an area and wait until more rise to take their place, but there's no guarantee one will be the Orc you're looking for.
Any regular Orc soldier that kills you during Shadow of War gets promoted to an Orc Captain. When that happens, they're assigned a title and get their personality traits. When you get further through the game and have some time to get picky about your Orcs, you can influence what type of Orc you get by merely dying at the right time to the right enemy.
If you want an Archer Captain, die to an archer. If a Defender Captain is more to your liking, you can die to one of the shield wielders. Location matters too, because that determines the tribe your new captain will be a part of. To learn which tribe rules an area, look around at the banners and aesthetic of the buildings that way you can make sure your soon-to-be new buddy will look how you want and have the abilities specific to the tribe of your choosing.
Now all you have to do is die. That sounds easier than it actually is because your objective is to be killed by a particular kind of Orc. You rarely encounter lone Orcs, so it's easy to accidentally have the wrong one make the killing blow. You can always try over though, so don't get discouraged if you end up with a dud.
Once the Orc of your choice kills you, it's in the hands of the Random Numbers Generator. First, there's a good chance the Orc that took you out will spawn as just a regular old Orc Captain. Secondly, if the Orc in promoted in a region with no empty spots for new Orcs, they'll duel someone for their place. This can either end up in your brand-new dream Orc being killed, or one of your other favorite Orcs in the region being murdered.
However, if everything goes right, and you've cleared out a spot in advance for your new Orc, you can get an Epic or Legendary Orc Captain to spawn precisely how you want them to be. This method is incredibly frustrating, but it's the only way to exert any influence over what kind of Orcs spawn.
Now all you have to do is die. That sounds easier than it actually is becase your objective is to be killed by a particular kind of Orc. You rarely encounter lone Orcs, so it's easy to accidentally have the wrong one make the killing blow. You can always try over though, so don't get discouraged if you end up with a dud.
Once the Orc of your choice kills you, it's in the hands of the Random Numbers Generator. First, there's a good chance the Orc that took you out will spawn as just a regular old Orc Captain. Secondly, if the Orc in promoted in a region with no empty spots for new Orcs, they'll duel someone for their place. This can either end up in your brand-new dream Orc being killed, or one of your other favorite Orcs in the region being murdered.
However, if everything goes right, and you've cleared out a spot in advance for your new Orc, you can get an Epic or Legendary Orc Captain to spawn precisely how you want them to be. This method is incredibly frustrating, but it's the only way to exert any influence over what kind of Orcs spawn.
Reservoir escribió:Now all you have to do is die. That sounds easier than it actually is becase your objective is to be killed by a particular kind of Orc. You rarely encounter lone Orcs, so it's easy to accidentally have the wrong one make the killing blow. You can always try over though, so don't get discouraged if you end up with a dud.
Once the Orc of your choice kills you, it's in the hands of the Random Numbers Generator. First, there's a good chance the Orc that took you out will spawn as just a regular old Orc Captain. Secondly, if the Orc in promoted in a region with no empty spots for new Orcs, they'll duel someone for their place. This can either end up in your brand-new dream Orc being killed, or one of your other favorite Orcs in the region being murdered.
However, if everything goes right, and you've cleared out a spot in advance for your new Orc, you can get an Epic or Legendary Orc Captain to spawn precisely how you want them to be. This method is incredibly frustrating, but it's the only way to exert any influence over what kind of Orcs spawn.
Grinch escribió:@cercata hombre en teoria tarde o temprano algun orco te matara xD.
cercata escribió:Grinch escribió:@cercata hombre en teoria tarde o temprano algun orco te matara xD.
Sí, pero ya has visto, tiene que ser alguno concreto que te mate, y cuando has dejado una fortaleza libre, sino no vale ...
This one is a no-brainer. As you adventure through Mordor, you're going to run into a ton of Orc Captains, and some of them will be Epic or Legendary. What rarity Orcs spawn at is out of your hands, but it's worth tracking down these warriors and claiming them as your own.
Most of the time higher tier Orcs will have some immunities and strengths that your run of the mill captains don't. When hunting an Epic or Legendary Orc, it's worth tracking down a Worm to find out more information on your target so you can be prepared. For example, if you're a player that prefers to fight from range, it's definitely a good thing to know if an Orc is immune to arrows.
This is the cheapest way to get Orcs, and it's not too hard, but you also can't predict when an Epic or Legendary Orc will spawn. You can hack and slash through the regular captains in an area and wait until more rise to take their place, but there's no guarantee one will be the Orc you're looking for.
ros escribió:A ver si me aclaro, la campaña dura unas 13 horas hasta el final y una vez llegado a ese punto ¿tenemos que farmear casi 40 horas más para llegar al final? Me resisto a pensar que eso sea así.
cercata escribió:ros escribió:A ver si me aclaro, la campaña dura unas 13 horas hasta el final y una vez llegado a ese punto ¿tenemos que farmear casi 40 horas más para llegar al final? Me resisto a pensar que eso sea así.
Tambien tienes la opción de pagar para llegar antes a ver ese "final oculto"