Bigotin escribió:obviamente esta troleando al insinuar (bueno, decir directamente) que se dedican 3 gb del sistema para eso.
Lo de "trolleo", "haters"
y otras lindezas que algunos se han traído consigo de cierto hilo, mejor guardárselo para sí.
Lo de los 3 GB viene de diversas filtraciones, no negaciones a preguntas directas a personal de Microsoft, etc.; se han puesto incluso en este hilo
y en el de Xbox One ya varias varias veces, con lo cual a estas alturas tachar de simple trolleo algo que sí está basado en informaciones parece querer traer a este hilo también las mentiras, tergiversaciones
y falsedades de "otro" hilo:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/ ... itten.aspxInterview With Xbox One's Chief Product Officer Marc Whitten
by Ben Hanson on May 21, 2013 at 02:16 PM
http://www.handytips.info/1141/microsof ... gb-for-os/Microsoft: Xbox One has 5GB RAM usable for games, 3GB for OS
Posted on 22nd May 2013 - 8:37am by Andrew Andronicou
Microsoft’s Chief Product Officer, Mark Whitten, seemingly has confirmed that of the Xbox One’s 8GB memory only 5GB can be used for games, whilst the other 3GB is used for the system OS.
In an interview with a reporter for Game Informer was given a preview of the Xbox One technology. He asked Mark Whitten:
“When they talked about the system itself, there’s basically my impression is there is three OSs, sorta a dual partition, one is running the pure game, one is a smaller partition that is running apps and other things in the background which allows a television app to be in a low-level mode and essentially switch between them and there is a main super-ego that is allotting resources between the two.
My question is in terms of RAM you said there is 8GB of RAM my impression was there is 5 of that being diverted to the games, 3 of that to running the always-on apps partition. Sony has 8GB of GDDR5 which is pretty fast RAM and I think it is all unified towards games. Do you think that puts you at a technical disadvantage because there is [in the Xbox One] only 5GB of functioning RAM for games?”
When Mark Whitten answered the question he did not deny that 5GB of RAM is usable for games and 3GB for the system OS:
“Yeah, I’m not going to talk about Sony’s system, I’m not close enough to really understand how there system works. I will say that I think the way we’ve balanced our system is really key, in terms of two things. The first one is we believe that we are going to have amazing experiences that are clearly next-gen. I think you guys saw some experiences that set a bar that is clearly very high.
I think that are games are going to look great, they will be the best looking games in the living room and I think the experience that you are going to have along with those games, the ability to run experiences at the same. This isn’t about so I can watch TV at the same time as I’m watching games – those are interesting scenarios as well. At a gaming level the ability to create a modern gaming experiences, where LIVE and the apps and services you can run at the same time as the game, we think will really change that experience we think it’s key.”
The PlayStation 4 has 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM, 1GB of which is allotted to the system’s OS. Whilst it has more memory usable for games it might mean over the course of the generation that new non-gaming features cannot be added because of a lack of RAM. This happened with the PlayStation 3 console when it launched without cross-game chat. Sony software engineers desperately tried to add this feature but couldn’t because there was not enough RAM available to the OS. The memory architecture of both the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One could be an early indication of consumer focus.
http://kotaku.com/the-five-possible-sta ... -509597078Your Xbox One Games Can Be Suspended (Or Terminated)
Stephen Totilo 5/23/13 6:00pm
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Caveat: this Xbox One development info was circulated by Microsoft to its partners at the beginning of this year. It may have changed, but based on what we saw this week, probably not in any major way.
1) Running: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.
2) Constrained: The game is loaded in memory and is still running, but it has limited access to the system resources. The game is not rendering full screen in this state; it either is rendering to a reduced area of the screen or is not visible at all. The user cannot interact with the game in this state. System resource limits in this state are four CPUs, 5 GB of memory, and 45 percent of GPU power if the game is rendering to a reduced area of the screen, or 10 percent of GPU power if the game is not visible.
3) Suspended: The game is loaded in memory but is not running, meaning that the system has stopped scheduling all threads in the game process. The game has no access to CPUs or to the GPU processing power, but it still has the same 5 GB of memory reserved.
4) NotRunning: The game is not loaded in memory and is not running, and the system has no game-history information about the previous execution of the game. A game would be in NotRunning state in any of these three scenarios:
-The game has not been run since the console started.
-The game crashed during the last execution.
-The game did not properly handle the suspend process during the last execution and was forced to exit by the system.
5) Terminated: The game is not loaded in memory and is not running, which is identical to the NotRunning state in terms of system resource usage. Terminated state, however, indicates that during the last execution of the game, the game process was successfully suspended and then terminated by the system. This means that the game had a chance to save its state as it was suspended; the next time the game is activated, it can load this previous state data and continue the user experience from the same position. A game, for example, can start from the same level and position in the player’s last session without showing any front-end menu.
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Si Microsoft ha generado críticas feroces, no es porque de repente haya surgido una campaña contra ellos, sino porque ellos con sus políticas (
y de las cuales siguen convencidos, tal
y como Steve Ballmer demostró hace poco) se lo han ganado a pulso; de hecho, aunque de momento se hayan retractado de cierta parte de ellas en la One, ésta aún arrastra consigo las "consecuencias" de haber sido diseñada para ellas.
Si otra compañía hubiera intentado medidas tan anticonsumidor con su consola, se hubiera llevado críticas feroces también.
Por otra parte, a cada cambio generacional, eso de "territorio
Y" no existe: si un fabricante tiene peso en un mercado,
y hace las cosas más o menos bien
y no peor que la competencia, pues seguramente siga en ese mercado con una buena porción del mismo.
Por contra, si un fabricante comete "locuras", puede perderlo. EEUU fue un territorio Atari, luego un territorio Nintendo, luego un territorio Sony, ahora más o menos un territorio Microsoft (digo más o menos, porque la diferencia entre PS3
y Xbox 360 no es ni de lejos tan grande como la que hubo entre PS2
y Xbox I),
y en la nueva generación, se verá de nuevo qué pasa.
y no tocarse uno mismo y tocar mas el mando que necesita de vuestro lovin` ,los feitos tambien tienen su corazoncito
.
![[+risas]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani3.gif "más risas")
![[amor]](/images/smilies/nuevos/enamorado.gif "enamorado")
para ti simpatia-man , que te has hido a lo facil y estaba de coña ,pero bueno ya veo que estas algo picadete y te dejo ahi a tu rollo.
![[sonrisa]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani1.gif "sonrisa")
![[buenazo]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_tonta.gif "buenazo")
. Si asociamos rebajas de one en MM ( una cadena de un montón de ellas ) en las que puedes comprarla, con sus posibles malas ventas creo que te equivocas. 
. ![[buuuaaaa]](/images/smilies/nuevos/triste_ani3.gif "a lágrima viva")
![[plas]](/images/smilies/aplauso.gif "Aplausos")
![[tadoramo]](/images/smilies/adora.gif "Adorando")
![[oki]](/images/smilies/net_thumbsup.gif "Ok!")
