Aterrizaje del Curiosity en Marte ¡A las 07:30 horas! Mission complete!!

Ahh no sabía que era una recomposición de muchas fotos...entonces por eso sí que puede ser, claro.
¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?
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PORTUENSE_14 escribió:¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?


no sé qué tipo de noticia esperas, si solo lo mandaron a revisar piedras con tecnología de hace 30 años
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?


Que yo sepa no... se está moviendo y recogiendo datos de la radiación, el clima, rocas etc. Aunque a lo mejor se me ha pasado alguna noticia interesante.
Aqui comentan que han encontrado algo importante pero de momento no quieren decir nada antes de revisar que no haya sido ningún error:

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/20/165513016/big-news-from-mars-rover-scientists-mum-for-now

Big News From Mars? Rover Scientists Mum For Now
by Joe Palca

Scientists working on NASA's six-wheeled rover on Mars have a problem. But it's a good problem.

They have some exciting new results from one of the rover's instruments. On the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found, but on the other, they have to wait because they want to make sure their results are not just some fluke or error in their instrument.

It's a bind scientists frequently find themselves in, because by their nature, scientists like to share their results. At the same time, they're cautious because no one likes to make a big announcement and then have to say "never mind."

The exciting results are coming from an instrument in the rover called SAM. "We're getting data from SAM as we sit here and speak, and the data looks really interesting," John Grotzinger, the principal investigator for the rover mission, says during my visit last week to his office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. That's where data from SAM first arrive on Earth. "The science team is busily chewing away on it as it comes down," says Grotzinger.

SAM is a kind of miniature chemistry lab. Put a sample of Martian soil or rock or even air inside SAM, and it will tell you what the sample is made of.

Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says.

Grotzinger can see the pained look on my face as I wait, hoping he'll tell me what the heck he's found, but he's not providing any more information.

So why doesn't Grotzinger want to share his exciting news? The main reason is caution. Grotzinger and his team were almost stung once before. When SAM analyzed an air sample, it looked like there was methane in it, and at least here on Earth, some methane comes from living organisms.

But Grotzinger says they held up announcing the finding because they wanted to be sure they were measuring Martian air, and not air brought along from the rover's launchpad at Cape Canaveral.

"We knew from the very beginning that we had this risk of having brought air from Florida. And we needed to diminish it and then make the measurement again," he says. And when they made the measurement again, the signs of methane disappeared.

Grotzinger says it will take several weeks before he and his team are ready to talk about their latest finding. In the meantime he'll fend off requests from pesky reporters, and probably from NASA brass as well. Like any big institution, NASA would love to trumpet a major finding, especially at a time when budget decisions are being made. Nothing succeeds like success, as the saying goes.

Richard Zare, a chemist at Stanford University, appreciates the uncomfortable position John Grotzinger is in. He's been there. In 1996, he was part of a team that reported finding organic compounds in a meteorite from Mars that landed in Antarctica. When the news came out, it caused a huge sensation because finding organic compounds in a Martian rock suggested the possibility at least that there was once life on Mars.

"You're bursting with a feeling that you want to share this information, and it's frustrating when you feel you can't talk about it, "says Zare.

It wasn't scientific caution that kept Zare from announcing his results. It was a rule many scientific journals enforce that says scientists are not allowed to talk about their research until the day it's officially published. Zare had to follow the rules if he wanted his paper to come out.

He did break down and tell his family. "I remember at the dinner table with great excitement explaining to my wife, Susan, and my daughter, Bethany, what it was we were doing," says Zare. And then he experienced something many parents can relate to when talking to their kids.

"Bethany looked at me and said, 'pass the ketchup.' So, not everybody was as excited as I was," he says.

Zare says in a way, scientists are like artists. Sharing what they do is a big part of why they get out of bed in the morning.

"How many composers would actually compose music if they were told no one else could listen to their compositions? How many painters would make a painting if they were told no one else could see them?" says Zare. It's the same for scientists. "The great joy of science is to be able to share it. And so you want to say, 'Isn't this interesting? Isn't that cool?' "

For now, though, we'll have to wait to see what's got Mars rover scientists itching to say what they found.

Como lo brillante sean oro o diamantes me veo al hombre en marte el mes que viene para salir de la crisis [carcajad]
kai_dranzer20 escribió:
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?


no sé qué tipo de noticia esperas, si solo lo mandaron a revisar piedras con tecnología de hace 30 años


Si es por trollear no aportas nada, ya se que no tienes ni idea de la tecnologia que lleva Curiosity como para decir eso.

Por otra parte, "Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says"
¿Que cosa tan importante descubrieron? :-?
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:
kai_dranzer20 escribió:
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?


no sé qué tipo de noticia esperas, si solo lo mandaron a revisar piedras con tecnología de hace 30 años


Si es por trollear no aportas nada, ya se que no tienes ni idea de la tecnologia que lleva Curiosity como para decir eso.

Por otra parte, "Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says"
¿Que cosa tan importante descubrieron? :-?


Pués no lo sé, por que en el texto no te dan ni la mínima idea, pensé en un principio que era relacionado con la vida en marte (no lo descarto), pero tampoco te dice por donde pueden ir los tiros...

Saludos
Ojala sea algo relacionado con vida :O
Yo prefiero que sea oro o diamantes, iríamos a Marte en unos 5 años xD
kai_dranzer20 escribió:
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:¿Ninguna noticia interesante del rover?


no sé qué tipo de noticia esperas, si solo lo mandaron a revisar piedras con tecnología de hace 30 años


Venga va, empieza a explicar esa tecnología de hace 30 años. Empieza por los aparatos químicos [risita]
melovampire escribió:
PORTUENSE_14 escribió:
kai_dranzer20 escribió:
no sé qué tipo de noticia esperas, si solo lo mandaron a revisar piedras con tecnología de hace 30 años


Si es por trollear no aportas nada, ya se que no tienes ni idea de la tecnologia que lleva Curiosity como para decir eso.

Por otra parte, "Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says"
¿Que cosa tan importante descubrieron? :-?


Pués no lo sé, por que en el texto no te dan ni la mínima idea, pensé en un principio que era relacionado con la vida en marte (no lo descarto), pero tampoco te dice por donde pueden ir los tiros...

Saludos


Si que la dan si, dicen que han detectado algo con el SAM, el SAM es el espectrometro de masas, analizador de gases y sistema de descomposición por láser, en definitiva el aparato que analiza cualquier sustancia y te dice lo que es y como se formo, tambien es capaz de discernir entre minerales/gases formados por procesos "geológicos" y procesos "BIOLÓGICOS", que quiero implicar con esto? pues que puede que hayan descubierto una de 3 posibilidades que se me ocurren:

1º Que hayan detectado algo en la atmósfera marciana (cosa mas improbable porque ya salieron análisis al respecto diciendo que los niveles de metano eran de lo mas normales)

2º que hayan descubierto que las bacterias terrestres que pudieron contaminar el aislante exterior que luego se disemino por el suelo marciano tras el impacto (esos cachitos de plástico reluciente que encontraron) hayan conseguido sobrevivir y formar colonias sobre este plástico en la atmósfera marciana.

3º que en un sustrato del lecho del rio MARCIANO hayan encontrado pruebas de que ESE SUSTRATO fue depositado por BACTERIAS que vivían en colonias en el fondo del LAGO hace MILLONES DE AÑOS... osea demostrar que en el pasado hubo vida floreciendo en el planeta.

Y por ultimo 4º, que nos estén troleando y solo hayan encontrado un mineral raro en alguna de las muestras y lo quieran estudiar en profundidad, por ejemplo se pueden haber encontrado un trozo de la tierra del cámbrico, o un trozo de venus, o de algún objeto del cinturón de asteroides... vete tu a saber, pero eso seria una troleada en toda regla porque todo el mundo se espera algo relacionado con el tema de la vida en marte.

Esas son las posibilidades que veo, que opináis?
Fuaaa tanto como decir que : "his data is gonna be one for the history books."
No se que pensar..
Falta una semana para que digan algo....¿Alguna noticia nueva con respecto a esto?
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