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Nuhar escribió:
Capi America escribió:Creo que el bundle del Sunset deberia de ser de 1 tera también. No tiene mucho sentido solo la del Duty...


Fomentar las ventas del Call of Duty al tener una consola "especial"

Seguramente sea algún acuerdo.


Lo del tera es una putada, sinceramente. 500 Gb y con 6 juegos los tengo a menos de la mitad, en fin..
Terrez escribió:
framed escribió:
¿Qué parte del plan no has entendido? La consola está totalmente personalizada, te regalan el juego, el HD tiene el doble de capacidad. No entiendo que más quieres. ¿Qué molaría más si fuera más barato? Coño, pues claro. Nos ha jodido. Y ojalá costará 299 €.

Excepto por Quantum Break, vaya bodrio de conferencia.

Ni Gears of War, ni Halo 5, ni apenas juegos exclusivos que merezcan la pena.

A saber lo que han pagado por tener la exclusividad del nuevo Tomb Raider ...


¿El gears? ¿Tas loco? Pero si apenas tendrán bocetos de preproducción. De Halo 5 no enseñarán nada hasta que esté a punto de salir. No les interesa. Es el buque insignia de Microsoft. Y todos sabemos como se las gasta la compañía copy & paste por excelencia. Te sacarían un DLC para killzone fusilando todo lo que se viera de Halo 5.


Tomate una cervecita fresca, que te veo acalorado XD

Pack sunset overdrive, personalizada, con juego y anda 100€ menos, me compro un HD de 1TB, me sobra dinero para comprar otro juego y encima con un 50% más de HD... Es caro y se sabe... O como dirías tu "¿Que parte de caro no has entendido?"

Que lo veas a un precio justo, no significa que los demás piensen como tu


La del sunset no es personalizada, sólo es blanca. Además, deja de tergiversar, he dejado bien claro que sería fabuloso que todo fuera más barato, pero no nos flipemos. Si la del cod fuera 399€ a ver quien compraba las otras.
Nuhar escribió:
Capi America escribió:Creo que el bundle del Sunset deberia de ser de 1 tera también. No tiene mucho sentido solo la del Duty...


Fomentar las ventas del Call of Duty al tener una consola "especial"

Seguramente sea algún acuerdo.


Pues si, quizás sea por eso pero sigo sin entenderlo y más en un juego exclusivo...

Por cierto no se ha comentado tampoco pero creo que el bundle con fifa es exclusivo en Europa
Madre mía la que estáis liando con la perra, hasta en hilos de comida lo veo ya ….

En su hilo coñe, en su hilo
Capi America escribió:
Nuhar escribió:
Capi America escribió:Creo que el bundle del Sunset deberia de ser de 1 tera también. No tiene mucho sentido solo la del Duty...


Fomentar las ventas del Call of Duty al tener una consola "especial"

Seguramente sea algún acuerdo.


Pues si, quizás sea por eso pero sigo sin entenderlo y más en un juego exclusivo...

Por cierto no se ha comentado tampoco pero creo que el bundle con fifa es exclusivo en Europa


Si, creo que han dicho eso en la confe, o eso me ha parecido entender.

En cuanto a lo del Cod, ten en cuenta que Xbox tiene exclusivas temporales y que presentan el juego en sus conferencias. Acuerdos comerciales...
yo tengo ganas de ver la de sony, entre otras cosas porque tengo en mente comprarla con la salida de Uncharted, así que veremos a ver que ofrece
Crystal Dynamics explica en un comunicado los motivos tras la exclusividad de Rise of the Tomb Raider

Eso sí, siguen sin aclarar si ésta será de carácter completo o sólo temporal.

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Una de las noticias bomba de la conferencia de Microsoft en la GamesCom ha sido el anuncio de que Rise of the Tomb Raider aparecerá en exclusiva en Xbox One en la recta final del próximo año 2015. Ante las críticas de algunos aficionados, y las dudas sobre si se trata de un acuerdo completo o de uno temporal, han emitido un comunicado a través de Tumblr.

Darreell Gallagher, principal responsable del estudio, ha sido precisamente quien lo firma, aportando algunos datos más sobre la noticia. "Consideramos que todos vosotros sois la sangre que le da vida a Tomb Raider, y nos gustaría daros una explicación sobre esta decisión y por qué sentimos que esto es lo mejor que podíamos hacer para esta secuela", reveló.

"Tomb Raider en 2013 fue un éxito gracias a vuestro continuado apoyo, y nuestra meta era la de ofrecer algo verdaderamente especial con Rise of the Tomb Raider (...). El anuncio de hoy con Microsoft es un paso más para ayudarnos a llevar a Tomb Raider a lo más alto del género de aventuras", comentó. "Nuestros amigos en Microsoft siempre han visto un gran potencial en Tomb Raider, y han creído en nuestra visión desde que la desvelamos en el E3 2011".

"Creemos que este es un gran paso para forjar la marca Tomb Raider como una de las más grandes de los videojuegos, con la ayuda y el apoyo de un socio tan importante como Microsoft. Esto no significa que dejemos de lado a nuestros fans que sólo juegan en PC o PlayStation. Son también grandes plataformas, con grandes socios y asombrosas comunidades. Tenemos Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris para ellos en diciembre, y además Tomb Raider: The Definitive Edition está en PlayStation 4".

El estudio asegura que contestará a todas las cuestiones que puedan surgir sobre esta noticia, aunque no acaba de concretar si la exclusiva es de perfil total o si sólo es de tipo temporal y más adelante aparecerá en otras plataformas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... VNT0bNKQZQ

La beta de Halo 5: Guardians del 29 de diciembre al 18 de enero

Para tener acceso durante esas tres semanas, habrá que adquirir The Master Chief Collection.

Sunset Overdrive Gamescom Trailer, Walkthrough & Screenshots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... IAYlJfAh40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... qYqF0ooztA

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Capi America escribió:yo tengo ganas de ver la de sony, entre otras cosas porque tengo en mente comprarla con la salida de Uncharted, así que veremos a ver que ofrece


Yo tambien !!!! jaajaja

Aunque esperare unos meses despues de su salida para que este baratito y aprovechar una oferta tipo mediamarkt ;)

Perdon por el offtopic, hoy se puede, no? jajajaja
Por cierto a ver si espabilan y sacan ya la actu de Agosto
Capi America escribió:Por cierto a ver si espabilan y sacan ya la actu de Agosto


Pues si, seria lo suyo.
Thirteen escribió:
Capi America escribió:Por cierto a ver si espabilan y sacan ya la actu de Agosto


Pues si, seria lo suyo.


mas que nada que por estas fechas suelen sacar la preview del mes siguiente
Capi America escribió:
Thirteen escribió:
Capi America escribió:Por cierto a ver si espabilan y sacan ya la actu de Agosto


Pues si, seria lo suyo.


mas que nada que por estas fechas suelen sacar la preview del mes siguiente


Sisi, yo pienso igual, este mes se han dormido xD
NucelarGen escribió:The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - World Setting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... UamHfdoSyc


Vaya trabajazo han tenido xD
El mando de Xbox One es suficiente con actualizarlo 1 sola vez, o van saliendo nuevos drivers tambien? (lo tuve que actualizar para usar otros cascos).

Gracias por la info!
Digital foundry analiza Diablo 3, test Framerate:

Y tenemos sorpresita....

Diablo 3 on console: when is 60fps not really 60fps?

Gameplay can run at two frame-rates simultaneously on PS4 and Xbox One - but right now the Microsoft console has the advantage.



By Thomas Morgan Published Tuesday, 12 August 2014

When is 60fps not truly 60fps? That's the question we asked ourselves as we played through the PS4 and Xbox One renditions of Diablo 3 - a game that targets that tip-top number but with bizarre consequences owing to the unusual rendering set-up of Blizzard's in-house engine.

To cut to the chase, the PS4 version isn't as smooth in action as its Xbox One counterpart, despite both versions sharing identical assets to PC on its highest settings. Having tested both extensively over the last few days, with a mind to produce a full Face-Off feature once the Gamescom mania is dispensed with, the promise of 60fps is, on the face of it, delivered on both of the new-wave consoles. We ran both versions of the game through our analysis tools, which reported a flawless frame-rate on both - but there's a catch.

Unique to Diablo 3 is its method of producing frames, where character animations, alpha effects and its lighting model are rendered independently of camera movement. As you can see in our video below, actual gameplay can stutter down to near the 40fps line on PS4, while the camera continues to pan across the environment at a clean 60fps. It's difficult to ascertain exactly why the game presents itself like this, but it may well be the case that Blizzard has adopted a rendering strategy that ensures a 60fps refresh regardless, while some important elements of the scene to be updated at varying intervals. If so, it's an interesting technique that doesn't quite pan out.
Exclusive to console
diablo

Playing Diablo 3 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One remains close in design to the last-gen console versions, albeit blended with top-end PC visuals. All console editions benefit from some unique design choices and features not available on PC though, including:

A buddy system, which allows a player to join a friend's game despite their level. To avoid embarrassing scenes, the console versions will automatically scale health and attack damage so a lower-levelled player remains competitive.
A new Nemesis dynamic, also not available on PC as yet. While the specifics of how this works are still being established, the core idea is tantalising. Essentially, an enemy AI that defeats a player is flagged as a unique "Nemesis" character, who can then proceed to invade your friends' game worlds to wreak havoc (and even level up independently a maximum of five times).
The mail system is console only too, allowing players to mail gifts and items to friends.
The PS3 and PS4 also boast some exclusive themed content. Sony console versions see extra armour added, as based on the lore of Shadow of the Colossus, and also a Last of Us-themed Nephalem Rift area.
Finally, the Dual Shock 4's features are utilised in subtle ways. Different sides of the touch-pad allow access to separate menus for instance, while the front light bar helpfully corresponds to the colour of each character during local co-op play.

Our test is running the full, disc-based UK versions of each game, on the most up-to-date patch available at the time of writing. Specifically, the PS4 runs at full 1080p as promised, with patch version C2.0.0.24791 instated on the menu screen, while the Xbox One renders at a lesser 900p resolution with the C2.0.0.24514 build in effect. Of course, we're promised a day-one update to 1080p on Microsoft's platform, with Blizzard seeing an opportunity in the June SDK to optimise further.

Based on our video analysis, each game renders out a perfect 60 frames per second - but in analysing the all-crucial gameplay, we see frame-rates on both platforms running with different practical results. Based on our initial playthrough, the worst of it occurs at the very start on PS4; around the gates of the New Tristram hub area. Characters and projectile arrows can run at essentially half their frame-rates as skeletons rise from the perimeter. Despite repeated tests, the Xbox One version only produces occasional hiccups in matching scenes.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-UmoGI_5yw[/video]
The PlayStation 4 version trumps the Xbox One in resolution, but flounders in frame-rate. As shown here, both achieve a 60fps lock, but Diablo 3's rendering setup causes character animations to drop frames independently of camera movement - with Sony's console being a more frequent offender.

So what's actually running at 60fps? From close study of each frame, camera motion, HUD elements such as the glowing Fury orb to the left, and shader distortion effects each run a full refresh. In terms of playability, the PS4 does not quite control in the same way as a result of stutters elsewhere - with our Barbarian character lagging behind occasionally during both combat and traversal.

In essence then, while Diablo 3 can in some part claim to be operating at a perfect 60Hz refresh, the core hack-and-slash mechanics don't quite hit the same lofty target. It's unfortunate, and affects the heart of the combat at times where inconsistency in controller feedback can be jarring. Equally confusing is the fact it impacts the PS4 version primarily, while the Xbox One - which clearly utilises the same technique - only suffers its wrath to a light degree.

So what could be the cause? It's unusual to see an engine rendering different elements of a game at different rates, but we've seen tricks in this vein before to save on performance. Recent entries in the Forza Motorsport series, for example, halve the frame-rate of certain reflections to maintain the 60fps of its core handling. Elsewhere, we've seen Dark Souls 2 strip away frames from enemy animations in the distance - noticed in expansive areas such as No Man's Wharf - where drawing closer brings back their full rate of motion. Trials Fusion's shadows also render at varying levels of refresh (either quarter or halved) based on distance.

But this is different - the opening battle at the New Tristram gates is an extreme case, but we also see frames being cut on Sony's platform where the Xbox One is smoother throughout - and often without any obvious correlation to the on-screen action. Wandering uncontested through the more simplistic Fields of Misery area, for example, can cause occasional dropped frames, while hectic maelstroms of effects around Act 3's Battlefields run as smooth as butter.

Evidently, this isn't just down to the PS4's GPU struggling to render multiple enemies on-screen or complex scenes. Even with huge bursts of alpha effects and dozens of enemies flying from all angles, the console regularly proves it can hold up at 60fps where it counts - even in co-op multiplayer. This suggests a GPU bottleneck from running at 1080p is, in all likelihood, unlikely to be the cause. As a possibility, these dips may come down to Diablo 3's managing of background processes; CPU-side calculations, or asset streaming beyond the player's field of view.

Based on its PC incarnation, this theory has merit. The engine has shown a limitation in support for multi-threaded CPUs, which has become a core facet of new-wave console design. It's conceivable that parts of the engine are hitting a bottleneck here, where the boost to the Xbox One's CPU clock speeds (up 1.75GHz per core, as opposed to the 1.6GHz on PS4) could possibly make an impact. But in truth, this is just speculation for now.

Despite the dual frame-rate issue, Diablo 3 on the new consoles fundamentally remains an excellent title, forging the top-end PC graphical standard with the four player drop-in, drop-out living room co-op that made the last-gen releases such a pleasure to play. This release also features the Reaper of Souls expansion's additional fifth act, the Crusader class, and adventure mode, which is an extra expense for PC owners.

The technological glitches are unusual though - and something we'll explore in more testing scenarios in our upcoming Face-Off. We hope the PS4 side sees some attention so the refresh on all counts matches its Xbox One sibling. Both platforms share effects quality ramped up to the same level, with each a match for the PC's highest smoothed shadow setting. The only other discrepancy on paper is the 900p and 1080p resolution divide, but in practice with a game of Diablo 3's gloomy aesthetic, the PS4's resolution advantage doesn't quite shine through as brightly as we'd hoped, where high contrast edges are uncommon. Each version is paired with heavy post-process anti-aliasing too, making the wide chasm in pixel-rate trickier still to catch by eye.

And yet, once the next patch hits, we're soon to see the Xbox One come up to par with a 1080p frame-buffer. But with its current performance advantage in actual gameplay, it's unclear whether such an update will in fact do more harm than good - or if future patches stand to resolve the PS4's issues. We'll return to the game with a full Face-Off - including co-op stress tests on some really demanding levels - once the launch day patches are in full effect.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... ocialoomph
NucelarGen escribió:Toda la conferencia, ……en ingles XD

http://www.mweb.co.za/games/ViewNewsArt ... usive.aspx


Gracias por el aporte !
Entre el EA Acces, la actualización de Agosto con todo lo que trae y los juegos que vienen estoy flipando con mi Xbox one [flipa]
Bot76 escribió:Entre el EA Acces, la actualización de Agosto con todo lo que trae y los juegos que vienen estoy flipando con mi Xbox one [flipa]

¿que trae la actualizacion de Agosto? dime que DLNA, sino no entiendo porque tanta euforia...
huesin escribió:
Bot76 escribió:Entre el EA Acces, la actualización de Agosto con todo lo que trae y los juegos que vienen estoy flipando con mi Xbox one [flipa]

¿que trae la actualizacion de Agosto? dime que DLNA, sino no entiendo porque tanta euforia...

La de septiembre es la que trae el DLNA, no?
Si, perdón, parece que lo del DLNA es para Septiembre, igualmente, [flipa]
Bot76 escribió:Entre el EA Acces, la actualización de Agosto con todo lo que trae y los juegos que vienen estoy flipando con mi Xbox one [flipa]
Umbasa escribió:
huesin escribió:
Bot76 escribió:Entre el EA Acces, la actualización de Agosto con todo lo que trae y los juegos que vienen estoy flipando con mi Xbox one [flipa]

¿que trae la actualizacion de Agosto? dime que DLNA, sino no entiendo porque tanta euforia...

La de septiembre es la que trae el DLNA, no?

Es en las próximas. No de sabe aun si es septiembre
Pero cuando se actualiza la one de agosto ?
Septiembre es el nuevo Agosto
Madre mía acabo de ver la confe...

Sunset

Quantum Break (jamás vi algo así)

Ori and the Blind Forest

Forza Horizon 2

Fable

HALO

Tomb Raider (si fuera exclusivo de la competencia os juro que me muero! Como lo pasamos la parienta y yo con el último)

Ya lo sabía pero hoy me reafirmo! HE ELEGIDO LA CONSOLA PERFECTA PARA MI.

No creo que hoy las criticas tengan mucho sentido... Hoy todos los de aquí somos un poco mas verdes!



Edito...y Screamride???? WTFFFFF
WILL_2 escribió:Digital foundry analiza Diablo 3, test Framerate:

Y tenemos sorpresita....

Diablo 3 on console: when is 60fps not really 60fps?

Gameplay can run at two frame-rates simultaneously on PS4 and Xbox One - but right now the Microsoft console has the advantage.



By Thomas Morgan Published Tuesday, 12 August 2014

When is 60fps not truly 60fps? That's the question we asked ourselves as we played through the PS4 and Xbox One renditions of Diablo 3 - a game that targets that tip-top number but with bizarre consequences owing to the unusual rendering set-up of Blizzard's in-house engine.

To cut to the chase, the PS4 version isn't as smooth in action as its Xbox One counterpart, despite both versions sharing identical assets to PC on its highest settings. Having tested both extensively over the last few days, with a mind to produce a full Face-Off feature once the Gamescom mania is dispensed with, the promise of 60fps is, on the face of it, delivered on both of the new-wave consoles. We ran both versions of the game through our analysis tools, which reported a flawless frame-rate on both - but there's a catch.

Unique to Diablo 3 is its method of producing frames, where character animations, alpha effects and its lighting model are rendered independently of camera movement. As you can see in our video below, actual gameplay can stutter down to near the 40fps line on PS4, while the camera continues to pan across the environment at a clean 60fps. It's difficult to ascertain exactly why the game presents itself like this, but it may well be the case that Blizzard has adopted a rendering strategy that ensures a 60fps refresh regardless, while some important elements of the scene to be updated at varying intervals. If so, it's an interesting technique that doesn't quite pan out.
Exclusive to console
diablo

Playing Diablo 3 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One remains close in design to the last-gen console versions, albeit blended with top-end PC visuals. All console editions benefit from some unique design choices and features not available on PC though, including:

A buddy system, which allows a player to join a friend's game despite their level. To avoid embarrassing scenes, the console versions will automatically scale health and attack damage so a lower-levelled player remains competitive.
A new Nemesis dynamic, also not available on PC as yet. While the specifics of how this works are still being established, the core idea is tantalising. Essentially, an enemy AI that defeats a player is flagged as a unique "Nemesis" character, who can then proceed to invade your friends' game worlds to wreak havoc (and even level up independently a maximum of five times).
The mail system is console only too, allowing players to mail gifts and items to friends.
The PS3 and PS4 also boast some exclusive themed content. Sony console versions see extra armour added, as based on the lore of Shadow of the Colossus, and also a Last of Us-themed Nephalem Rift area.
Finally, the Dual Shock 4's features are utilised in subtle ways. Different sides of the touch-pad allow access to separate menus for instance, while the front light bar helpfully corresponds to the colour of each character during local co-op play.

Our test is running the full, disc-based UK versions of each game, on the most up-to-date patch available at the time of writing. Specifically, the PS4 runs at full 1080p as promised, with patch version C2.0.0.24791 instated on the menu screen, while the Xbox One renders at a lesser 900p resolution with the C2.0.0.24514 build in effect. Of course, we're promised a day-one update to 1080p on Microsoft's platform, with Blizzard seeing an opportunity in the June SDK to optimise further.

Based on our video analysis, each game renders out a perfect 60 frames per second - but in analysing the all-crucial gameplay, we see frame-rates on both platforms running with different practical results. Based on our initial playthrough, the worst of it occurs at the very start on PS4; around the gates of the New Tristram hub area. Characters and projectile arrows can run at essentially half their frame-rates as skeletons rise from the perimeter. Despite repeated tests, the Xbox One version only produces occasional hiccups in matching scenes.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-UmoGI_5yw[/video]
The PlayStation 4 version trumps the Xbox One in resolution, but flounders in frame-rate. As shown here, both achieve a 60fps lock, but Diablo 3's rendering setup causes character animations to drop frames independently of camera movement - with Sony's console being a more frequent offender.

So what's actually running at 60fps? From close study of each frame, camera motion, HUD elements such as the glowing Fury orb to the left, and shader distortion effects each run a full refresh. In terms of playability, the PS4 does not quite control in the same way as a result of stutters elsewhere - with our Barbarian character lagging behind occasionally during both combat and traversal.

In essence then, while Diablo 3 can in some part claim to be operating at a perfect 60Hz refresh, the core hack-and-slash mechanics don't quite hit the same lofty target. It's unfortunate, and affects the heart of the combat at times where inconsistency in controller feedback can be jarring. Equally confusing is the fact it impacts the PS4 version primarily, while the Xbox One - which clearly utilises the same technique - only suffers its wrath to a light degree.

So what could be the cause? It's unusual to see an engine rendering different elements of a game at different rates, but we've seen tricks in this vein before to save on performance. Recent entries in the Forza Motorsport series, for example, halve the frame-rate of certain reflections to maintain the 60fps of its core handling. Elsewhere, we've seen Dark Souls 2 strip away frames from enemy animations in the distance - noticed in expansive areas such as No Man's Wharf - where drawing closer brings back their full rate of motion. Trials Fusion's shadows also render at varying levels of refresh (either quarter or halved) based on distance.

But this is different - the opening battle at the New Tristram gates is an extreme case, but we also see frames being cut on Sony's platform where the Xbox One is smoother throughout - and often without any obvious correlation to the on-screen action. Wandering uncontested through the more simplistic Fields of Misery area, for example, can cause occasional dropped frames, while hectic maelstroms of effects around Act 3's Battlefields run as smooth as butter.

Evidently, this isn't just down to the PS4's GPU struggling to render multiple enemies on-screen or complex scenes. Even with huge bursts of alpha effects and dozens of enemies flying from all angles, the console regularly proves it can hold up at 60fps where it counts - even in co-op multiplayer. This suggests a GPU bottleneck from running at 1080p is, in all likelihood, unlikely to be the cause. As a possibility, these dips may come down to Diablo 3's managing of background processes; CPU-side calculations, or asset streaming beyond the player's field of view.

Based on its PC incarnation, this theory has merit. The engine has shown a limitation in support for multi-threaded CPUs, which has become a core facet of new-wave console design. It's conceivable that parts of the engine are hitting a bottleneck here, where the boost to the Xbox One's CPU clock speeds (up 1.75GHz per core, as opposed to the 1.6GHz on PS4) could possibly make an impact. But in truth, this is just speculation for now.

Despite the dual frame-rate issue, Diablo 3 on the new consoles fundamentally remains an excellent title, forging the top-end PC graphical standard with the four player drop-in, drop-out living room co-op that made the last-gen releases such a pleasure to play. This release also features the Reaper of Souls expansion's additional fifth act, the Crusader class, and adventure mode, which is an extra expense for PC owners.

The technological glitches are unusual though - and something we'll explore in more testing scenarios in our upcoming Face-Off. We hope the PS4 side sees some attention so the refresh on all counts matches its Xbox One sibling. Both platforms share effects quality ramped up to the same level, with each a match for the PC's highest smoothed shadow setting. The only other discrepancy on paper is the 900p and 1080p resolution divide, but in practice with a game of Diablo 3's gloomy aesthetic, the PS4's resolution advantage doesn't quite shine through as brightly as we'd hoped, where high contrast edges are uncommon. Each version is paired with heavy post-process anti-aliasing too, making the wide chasm in pixel-rate trickier still to catch by eye.

And yet, once the next patch hits, we're soon to see the Xbox One come up to par with a 1080p frame-buffer. But with its current performance advantage in actual gameplay, it's unclear whether such an update will in fact do more harm than good - or if future patches stand to resolve the PS4's issues. We'll return to the game with a full Face-Off - including co-op stress tests on some really demanding levels - once the launch day patches are in full effect.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... ocialoomph


Y eso que es el 50% mas potente.........dicen algunos flipados claro....
La actualización del reproductor de medios es para otoño. No han dicho el mes exacto (creo).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... -s2jdbJxH0

Ghost of a Tale Gets Gamescom 2014 Gameplay Trailer, Coming Also To Xbox One
WILL_2 escribió:Digital foundry analiza Diablo 3, test Framerate:

Y tenemos sorpresita....

Diablo 3 on console: when is 60fps not really 60fps?

Gameplay can run at two frame-rates simultaneously on PS4 and Xbox One - but right now the Microsoft console has the advantage.



By Thomas Morgan Published Tuesday, 12 August 2014

When is 60fps not truly 60fps? That's the question we asked ourselves as we played through the PS4 and Xbox One renditions of Diablo 3 - a game that targets that tip-top number but with bizarre consequences owing to the unusual rendering set-up of Blizzard's in-house engine.

To cut to the chase, the PS4 version isn't as smooth in action as its Xbox One counterpart, despite both versions sharing identical assets to PC on its highest settings. Having tested both extensively over the last few days, with a mind to produce a full Face-Off feature once the Gamescom mania is dispensed with, the promise of 60fps is, on the face of it, delivered on both of the new-wave consoles. We ran both versions of the game through our analysis tools, which reported a flawless frame-rate on both - but there's a catch.

Unique to Diablo 3 is its method of producing frames, where character animations, alpha effects and its lighting model are rendered independently of camera movement. As you can see in our video below, actual gameplay can stutter down to near the 40fps line on PS4, while the camera continues to pan across the environment at a clean 60fps. It's difficult to ascertain exactly why the game presents itself like this, but it may well be the case that Blizzard has adopted a rendering strategy that ensures a 60fps refresh regardless, while some important elements of the scene to be updated at varying intervals. If so, it's an interesting technique that doesn't quite pan out.
Exclusive to console
diablo

Playing Diablo 3 on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One remains close in design to the last-gen console versions, albeit blended with top-end PC visuals. All console editions benefit from some unique design choices and features not available on PC though, including:

A buddy system, which allows a player to join a friend's game despite their level. To avoid embarrassing scenes, the console versions will automatically scale health and attack damage so a lower-levelled player remains competitive.
A new Nemesis dynamic, also not available on PC as yet. While the specifics of how this works are still being established, the core idea is tantalising. Essentially, an enemy AI that defeats a player is flagged as a unique "Nemesis" character, who can then proceed to invade your friends' game worlds to wreak havoc (and even level up independently a maximum of five times).
The mail system is console only too, allowing players to mail gifts and items to friends.
The PS3 and PS4 also boast some exclusive themed content. Sony console versions see extra armour added, as based on the lore of Shadow of the Colossus, and also a Last of Us-themed Nephalem Rift area.
Finally, the Dual Shock 4's features are utilised in subtle ways. Different sides of the touch-pad allow access to separate menus for instance, while the front light bar helpfully corresponds to the colour of each character during local co-op play.

Our test is running the full, disc-based UK versions of each game, on the most up-to-date patch available at the time of writing. Specifically, the PS4 runs at full 1080p as promised, with patch version C2.0.0.24791 instated on the menu screen, while the Xbox One renders at a lesser 900p resolution with the C2.0.0.24514 build in effect. Of course, we're promised a day-one update to 1080p on Microsoft's platform, with Blizzard seeing an opportunity in the June SDK to optimise further.

Based on our video analysis, each game renders out a perfect 60 frames per second - but in analysing the all-crucial gameplay, we see frame-rates on both platforms running with different practical results. Based on our initial playthrough, the worst of it occurs at the very start on PS4; around the gates of the New Tristram hub area. Characters and projectile arrows can run at essentially half their frame-rates as skeletons rise from the perimeter. Despite repeated tests, the Xbox One version only produces occasional hiccups in matching scenes.

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The PlayStation 4 version trumps the Xbox One in resolution, but flounders in frame-rate. As shown here, both achieve a 60fps lock, but Diablo 3's rendering setup causes character animations to drop frames independently of camera movement - with Sony's console being a more frequent offender.

So what's actually running at 60fps? From close study of each frame, camera motion, HUD elements such as the glowing Fury orb to the left, and shader distortion effects each run a full refresh. In terms of playability, the PS4 does not quite control in the same way as a result of stutters elsewhere - with our Barbarian character lagging behind occasionally during both combat and traversal.

In essence then, while Diablo 3 can in some part claim to be operating at a perfect 60Hz refresh, the core hack-and-slash mechanics don't quite hit the same lofty target. It's unfortunate, and affects the heart of the combat at times where inconsistency in controller feedback can be jarring. Equally confusing is the fact it impacts the PS4 version primarily, while the Xbox One - which clearly utilises the same technique - only suffers its wrath to a light degree.

So what could be the cause? It's unusual to see an engine rendering different elements of a game at different rates, but we've seen tricks in this vein before to save on performance. Recent entries in the Forza Motorsport series, for example, halve the frame-rate of certain reflections to maintain the 60fps of its core handling. Elsewhere, we've seen Dark Souls 2 strip away frames from enemy animations in the distance - noticed in expansive areas such as No Man's Wharf - where drawing closer brings back their full rate of motion. Trials Fusion's shadows also render at varying levels of refresh (either quarter or halved) based on distance.

But this is different - the opening battle at the New Tristram gates is an extreme case, but we also see frames being cut on Sony's platform where the Xbox One is smoother throughout - and often without any obvious correlation to the on-screen action. Wandering uncontested through the more simplistic Fields of Misery area, for example, can cause occasional dropped frames, while hectic maelstroms of effects around Act 3's Battlefields run as smooth as butter.

Evidently, this isn't just down to the PS4's GPU struggling to render multiple enemies on-screen or complex scenes. Even with huge bursts of alpha effects and dozens of enemies flying from all angles, the console regularly proves it can hold up at 60fps where it counts - even in co-op multiplayer. This suggests a GPU bottleneck from running at 1080p is, in all likelihood, unlikely to be the cause. As a possibility, these dips may come down to Diablo 3's managing of background processes; CPU-side calculations, or asset streaming beyond the player's field of view.

Based on its PC incarnation, this theory has merit. The engine has shown a limitation in support for multi-threaded CPUs, which has become a core facet of new-wave console design. It's conceivable that parts of the engine are hitting a bottleneck here, where the boost to the Xbox One's CPU clock speeds (up 1.75GHz per core, as opposed to the 1.6GHz on PS4) could possibly make an impact. But in truth, this is just speculation for now.

Despite the dual frame-rate issue, Diablo 3 on the new consoles fundamentally remains an excellent title, forging the top-end PC graphical standard with the four player drop-in, drop-out living room co-op that made the last-gen releases such a pleasure to play. This release also features the Reaper of Souls expansion's additional fifth act, the Crusader class, and adventure mode, which is an extra expense for PC owners.

The technological glitches are unusual though - and something we'll explore in more testing scenarios in our upcoming Face-Off. We hope the PS4 side sees some attention so the refresh on all counts matches its Xbox One sibling. Both platforms share effects quality ramped up to the same level, with each a match for the PC's highest smoothed shadow setting. The only other discrepancy on paper is the 900p and 1080p resolution divide, but in practice with a game of Diablo 3's gloomy aesthetic, the PS4's resolution advantage doesn't quite shine through as brightly as we'd hoped, where high contrast edges are uncommon. Each version is paired with heavy post-process anti-aliasing too, making the wide chasm in pixel-rate trickier still to catch by eye.

And yet, once the next patch hits, we're soon to see the Xbox One come up to par with a 1080p frame-buffer. But with its current performance advantage in actual gameplay, it's unclear whether such an update will in fact do more harm than good - or if future patches stand to resolve the PS4's issues. We'll return to the game with a full Face-Off - including co-op stress tests on some really demanding levels - once the launch day patches are in full effect.

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¿Alguien me resume en un par de líneas esa parrafada que está en inglés?

Muchas gracias
En la confe de Sony acaban de anunciar lo nuevo de Ninja Theory HELLBOUND imagino que será multi porque no han dicho anda de exclusivo
Capi America escribió:En la confe de Sony acaban de anunciar lo nuevo de Ninja Theory HELLBOUND imagino que será multi porque no han dicho anda de exclusivo


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NucelarGen escribió:
Capi America escribió:En la confe de Sony acaban de anunciar lo nuevo de Ninja Theory HELLBOUND imagino que será multi porque no han dicho anda de exclusivo


Exclusivo


Primero en PS4, lo ha dicho bien clarito al final. O sea que saldrá para One más tarde
La noticia del nuevo Tomb Raider exculsivo para la ONE me a alegrado el dia,el 1 me parecio una de las mayores sopresas de la anterior generacion y si este fuera exclusivo de la ps4,me estaria tirando de los pelos [sonrisa]
No se si en el futuro sera multi pero teniendo la ONE se que sere de los primeros en disfrutarlo!!!JUEGAZO que se nos avecina!!!
NucelarGen escribió:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O-s2jdbJxH0

Ghost of a Tale Gets Gamescom 2014 Gameplay Trailer, Coming Also To Xbox One


Bonico, bonico, bonico

La noticia del nuevo Tomb Raider exculsivo para la ONE me a alegrado el dia,el 1 me parecio una de las mayores sopresas de la anterior generacion y si este fuera exclusivo de la ps4,me estaria tirando de los pelos [sonrisa]
No se si en el futuro sera multi pero teniendo la ONE se que sere de los primeros en disfrutarlo!!!JUEGAZO que se nos avecina!!!


Sony tiene uncharted y Microsoft quería algo parecido. Había dos opciones: la primera es lo que han hecho y la segunda es crear un estudio que se dedicara a hacer uno cada dos años y a saber si les sale bien. Contando que Crystal Dinamics debía competir con uncharted yo diría que han elegido la mejor opción.

Bungie está anunciando expansiones para Destiny. Una que sale en diciembre. Vamos, DLC puro y duro.
Hola chicos,acabo de ver el vídeo de bloodborne,sabéis que compañía lo hace?es firt de sony?podrá salir en nuestra One?.
Gracias
framed escribió:
NucelarGen escribió:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O-s2jdbJxH0

Ghost of a Tale Gets Gamescom 2014 Gameplay Trailer, Coming Also To Xbox One


Bonico, bonico, bonico

La noticia del nuevo Tomb Raider exculsivo para la ONE me a alegrado el dia,el 1 me parecio una de las mayores sopresas de la anterior generacion y si este fuera exclusivo de la ps4,me estaria tirando de los pelos [sonrisa]
No se si en el futuro sera multi pero teniendo la ONE se que sere de los primeros en disfrutarlo!!!JUEGAZO que se nos avecina!!!


Sony tiene uncharted y Microsoft quería algo parecido. Había dos opciones: la primera es lo que han hecho y la segunda es crear un estudio que se dedicara a hacer uno cada dos años y a saber si les sale bien. Contando que Crystal Dinamics debía competir con uncharted yo diría que han elegido la mejor opción.

Veremos como lo lleva MS con Tomb Raider,pero ya puede cuidarla bien por que ahora mismo es una "nueva ip" que la ha rompido en la PS360,Uno de los grandes bombazos y tiene ante si,una joya de juego.
NucelarGen escribió:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O-s2jdbJxH0

Ghost of a Tale Gets Gamescom 2014 Gameplay Trailer, Coming Also To Xbox One

Que chulada
Buste escribió:Veremos como lo lleva MS con Tomb Raider,pero ya puede cuidarla bien por que ahora mismo es una "nueva ip" que la ha rompido en la PS360,Uno de los grandes bombazos y tiene ante si,una joya de juego.


¿Y qué quieres que haga Microsoft? El juego lo desarrolla Crystal Dinamics y supongo que lo distribuirá Square.

Lo de "rompido" me ha roto XD
Capi America escribió:
NucelarGen escribió:
Capi America escribió:En la confe de Sony acaban de anunciar lo nuevo de Ninja Theory HELLBOUND imagino que será multi porque no han dicho anda de exclusivo


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Primero en PS4, lo ha dicho bien clarito al final. O sea que saldrá para One más tarde


Nope
Hay algo que no entiendo. Heavenly sword diría que se la pegó, enslaved tampoco tuvo el éxito que esperaban. ¿Cómo es qué esta gente sigue en pie?
framed escribió:
Buste escribió:Veremos como lo lleva MS con Tomb Raider,pero ya puede cuidarla bien por que ahora mismo es una "nueva ip" que la ha rompido en la PS360,Uno de los grandes bombazos y tiene ante si,una joya de juego.


¿Y qué quieres que haga Microsoft? El juego lo desarrolla Crystal Dinamics y supongo que lo distribuirá Square.

Lo de "rompido" me ha roto XD

[qmparto] [qmparto]
Me refiero a que ya que es exclusivo que sepa darle el valor que tendra y publicitarlo bien y ese tipo de cosas.
Buste escribió:
framed escribió:
Buste escribió:Veremos como lo lleva MS con Tomb Raider,pero ya puede cuidarla bien por que ahora mismo es una "nueva ip" que la ha rompido en la PS360,Uno de los grandes bombazos y tiene ante si,una joya de juego.


¿Y qué quieres que haga Microsoft? El juego lo desarrolla Crystal Dinamics y supongo que lo distribuirá Square.

Lo de "rompido" me ha roto XD

[qmparto] [qmparto]
Me refiero a que ya que es exclusivo que sepa darle el valor que tendra y publicitarlo bien y ese tipo de cosas.

aqui el tema es que se acabo la tonteria las riendas las lleva el tito phil y entre eso y el maquinon de cara al futuro de la one,los del uncharted se acaban de cagar hoy en los gayumbos(ojo me pillare la otra cuando no sea una tostadora,pero la one va de camino de aqui a fin de año a ser lo que es,la repolla)

aaaah se me olvidaba

XBOX ONE IS RISING [uzi] [uzi] [uzi] [uzi]
Yo soy partidario de que, cuando las consolas bajen a 200-250 €, si la gente puede, pille todas. Pero si no se puede que se disfrute con lo que hay que ya es mucho. Si no tienes TR en la ps4 tienes uncharted. No veo el problema. No había Gran Turismo en xbox y salió Forza. Vamos, que no nos podemos quejar. Lo que no es normal es querer tenerlo todo. xD
Joder el sunset overdrive es un pasote,el juego es una fiesta alucinante
y mi amigo me dice que los puertos usb de one son 2.0 por se negro
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