[Debate] Hablemos de la New-Gen...

eloskuro escribió:Valve registra el nombre de Half-Life 3 en Europa, podría ser anunciado pronto

eloskuro escribió:La gente queria nuevas consolas despues de 8 años y que costasen menos de 600 euros. Es lo que han dado.

eloskuro escribió:Valve registra el nombre de Half-Life 3 en Europa, podría ser anunciado pronto

Nuhar escribió:

pers46 escribió:

Nuhar escribió:7 - 8 paginas poniendo a parir a la xbox360 y one, luego que si damage control o chorradas...

A mi me sigue impresionando la capacidad de la gente de hacer los benchmarks a ojo o sobre el papel, no se porque se molestan en hacerlos fisicamente... Si total... Ya tienen papeles

¿Cuando se ha puesto a parir a 360 y One?

Decir que es menos potente no es poner a parir a One, es algo más que posible. Es como decir que es negra. Al igual que decir que 360 lleva unos meses de sequía.

Es que juzgar una consola de 7 años por sus ultimos 6 meses o 1 año, pero bueno, que si, que esta bien

Lo otro ya lo he repetido mil veces, esperar a los benchmarks.

Scatsy escribió:

eloskuro escribió:Valve registra el nombre de Half-Life 3 en Europa, podría ser anunciado pronto

Bienvenido a hace un par de dias xDDDDD.

Soy ultrafan de Half Life y el día que Gaben anuncie el HL3 pillaré un billete a los usa para poder hacerle una mamada pero vamos, esto me suena a renovacion de marca por si las moscas mas que a otra cosa.

eloskuro escribió:

Scatsy escribió:

eloskuro escribió:Valve registra el nombre de Half-Life 3 en Europa, podría ser anunciado pronto

Bienvenido a hace un par de dias xDDDDD.

Soy ultrafan de Half Life y el día que Gaben anuncie el HL3 pillaré un billete a los usa para poder hacerle una mamada pero vamos, esto me suena a renovacion de marca por si las moscas mas que a otra cosa.

Es que no hemos comentado nada o casi nada de esta noticia y de que se dice que ya hay un grupo trabajando en el juego. Cuando es el megatón de la semana.

eloskuro escribió:
Es que no hemos comentado nada o casi nada de esta noticia y de que se dice que ya hay un grupo trabajando en el juego. Cuando es el megatón de la semana.

Franky_el_Punky escribió:

eloskuro escribió:
Es que no hemos comentado nada o casi nada de esta noticia y de que se dice que ya hay un grupo trabajando en el juego. Cuando es el megatón de la semana.

Es que estando en un hilo de consolas hasta que no confirmen la salida del juego en estas, aparte de en Steam, puede significar darnos con un canto en los dientes hablando del tema si al final no sale

PD: Después de leer casi del tirón las últimas 20 páginas... que huevos tienes tronco, te metes en unos embolaos de aupa

Scatsy escribió:esto me suena a renovacion de marca por si las moscas mas que a otra cosa.

Q: I'll wrap up with an inevitable question which you're probably not going to answer. The Last Guardian - where is it? It's in this building [Sony Studios Japan] somewhere, presumably?

Shuhei Yoshida: Yeah, in this building!

Q: What console is it coming out on?

Shuhei Yoshida: Ahh... That, I cannot talk about.

Q: It doesn't seem to make any sense for it to a PS3 title so late in the lifespan. I know they have PS4 kits in their office, because I heard them talking about them...

Shuhei Yoshida: So, we're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way. I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet.

Q: The hiatus that was talked about at one time, that's over now? It's back in full production?

Shuhei Yoshida: Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton! He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now.

Q: You did very well from those comparisons at E3, but since then, a lot of things have changed in Microsoft's strategy. That's flattering for Sony - a lot of the things they've changed are now more like your approach - but it meant that by TGS, if I walked between the Microsoft booth and the Sony booth, the consoles now seem quite similar. There aren't any really huge differences any more - so how do you differentiate PS4 today, now that Microsoft has stopped doing unpopular things?

Shuhei Yoshida: We know they're very smart people. It's great that they were able to quickly realise that some of the things they were doing were not popular, and were able to make really quick decisions to change some of those things - even things that their engineering group must have spent a lot of time preparing before the launch. It must have been a very tough time for them. That shows how smart they are, and it shows their dedication to making Xbox One successful.

We never took them lightly. Especially in the States, we are the challenger - we're trying to compete with them. Some of the messaging that they stumbled on just gave us more chances to compete with them in the States. Other markets are very different - in Europe, we have a larger market share and in Japan, we have a much longer history of being here. Being consistent and persistent helps; the legacy and people's associations with the brand, their memories of having a great time before.
Something that can be a weakness but can be a very strong asset for the PlayStation team is the management team that we have. Many of us in key positions have gone through all the transitions from the launch of PS1. Andrew House, Jack Tretton, myself and many of the executives were all there at the beginning. We've gone through great times and pretty difficult times together. I've never worked for another company, so I can just imagine, but we have a very efficient way of discussing issues and being open and honest. We make quick decisions when necessary, and that's something that's very fresh to me.
"We believe this is the most powerful console ever made. The content, the games available, the usage of PS4 surrounding games"

Now, because we work closely with Sony, many people are actually joining SCE headquarters from Sony. The number of smart people on the Sony electronics side is amazing - but all of them who join SCE say that they are amazed by how focused we are on the issues. We have meetings where we just jump onto the issues, make decisions and move on. That's very different from the Sony side, according to them. That history of us working through all the PlayStations of the last 20 years together - including Mark Cerny, who's not a Sony person but has always worked together with us - really helps us, I think, whether we're crafting messages or making sure that everyone knows what other parts of PlayStation are doing.

Ayer sabíamos que Valve registraba Half-Life 3 en Europa y hoy se han encontrado grupos de desarrollo de Valve que confirmarían la existencia del proyecto con 46 trabajadores asignados a Half-Life 3 y 10 a "Half-Life 3 Core", muchos de los cuales habían trabajado en Half-Life 2.

Indirectamente, esto confirmaría también el desarrollo del rumoreado Left 4 Dead 3, ahora con 71 trabajadores.

Esto sigue sin confirmar que el anuncio sea próximo, ya que es sabido que Half-Life 3 ha estado en desarrollo durante mucho tiempo, incluso con la filtración de ilustraciones y conceptos artísticos.

lherre escribió:Entrevista a Yoshida, si Major Nelson o Penello se parecieran un poquito simplemente ...

Habla de todo, incluso de The Last Guardian, semi confirmando que va a ps4.

Q: I'll wrap up with an inevitable question which you're probably not going to answer. The Last Guardian - where is it? It's in this building [Sony Studios Japan] somewhere, presumably?

Shuhei Yoshida: Yeah, in this building!

Q: What console is it coming out on?

Shuhei Yoshida: Ahh... That, I cannot talk about.

Q: It doesn't seem to make any sense for it to a PS3 title so late in the lifespan. I know they have PS4 kits in their office, because I heard them talking about them...

Shuhei Yoshida: So, we're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way. I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet.

Q: The hiatus that was talked about at one time, that's over now? It's back in full production?

Shuhei Yoshida: Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton! He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now.

Y esto es PR bien hecha.

Q: You did very well from those comparisons at E3, but since then, a lot of things have changed in Microsoft's strategy. That's flattering for Sony - a lot of the things they've changed are now more like your approach - but it meant that by TGS, if I walked between the Microsoft booth and the Sony booth, the consoles now seem quite similar. There aren't any really huge differences any more - so how do you differentiate PS4 today, now that Microsoft has stopped doing unpopular things?

Shuhei Yoshida: We know they're very smart people. It's great that they were able to quickly realise that some of the things they were doing were not popular, and were able to make really quick decisions to change some of those things - even things that their engineering group must have spent a lot of time preparing before the launch. It must have been a very tough time for them. That shows how smart they are, and it shows their dedication to making Xbox One successful.

We never took them lightly. Especially in the States, we are the challenger - we're trying to compete with them. Some of the messaging that they stumbled on just gave us more chances to compete with them in the States. Other markets are very different - in Europe, we have a larger market share and in Japan, we have a much longer history of being here. Being consistent and persistent helps; the legacy and people's associations with the brand, their memories of having a great time before.
Something that can be a weakness but can be a very strong asset for the PlayStation team is the management team that we have. Many of us in key positions have gone through all the transitions from the launch of PS1. Andrew House, Jack Tretton, myself and many of the executives were all there at the beginning. We've gone through great times and pretty difficult times together. I've never worked for another company, so I can just imagine, but we have a very efficient way of discussing issues and being open and honest. We make quick decisions when necessary, and that's something that's very fresh to me.
"We believe this is the most powerful console ever made. The content, the games available, the usage of PS4 surrounding games"

Now, because we work closely with Sony, many people are actually joining SCE headquarters from Sony. The number of smart people on the Sony electronics side is amazing - but all of them who join SCE say that they are amazed by how focused we are on the issues. We have meetings where we just jump onto the issues, make decisions and move on. That's very different from the Sony side, according to them. That history of us working through all the PlayStations of the last 20 years together - including Mark Cerny, who's not a Sony person but has always worked together with us - really helps us, I think, whether we're crafting messages or making sure that everyone knows what other parts of PlayStation are doing.

Aconsejo leerla.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... e-xbox-one

cjdiez escribió:

lherre escribió:Entrevista a Yoshida, si Major Nelson o Penello se parecieran un poquito simplemente ...

Habla de todo, incluso de The Last Guardian, semi confirmando que va a ps4.

Q: I'll wrap up with an inevitable question which you're probably not going to answer. The Last Guardian - where is it? It's in this building [Sony Studios Japan] somewhere, presumably?

Shuhei Yoshida: Yeah, in this building!

Q: What console is it coming out on?

Shuhei Yoshida: Ahh... That, I cannot talk about.

Q: It doesn't seem to make any sense for it to a PS3 title so late in the lifespan. I know they have PS4 kits in their office, because I heard them talking about them...

Shuhei Yoshida: So, we're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way. I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet.

Q: The hiatus that was talked about at one time, that's over now? It's back in full production?

Shuhei Yoshida: Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton! He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now.

Y esto es PR bien hecha.

Q: You did very well from those comparisons at E3, but since then, a lot of things have changed in Microsoft's strategy. That's flattering for Sony - a lot of the things they've changed are now more like your approach - but it meant that by TGS, if I walked between the Microsoft booth and the Sony booth, the consoles now seem quite similar. There aren't any really huge differences any more - so how do you differentiate PS4 today, now that Microsoft has stopped doing unpopular things?

Shuhei Yoshida: We know they're very smart people. It's great that they were able to quickly realise that some of the things they were doing were not popular, and were able to make really quick decisions to change some of those things - even things that their engineering group must have spent a lot of time preparing before the launch. It must have been a very tough time for them. That shows how smart they are, and it shows their dedication to making Xbox One successful.

We never took them lightly. Especially in the States, we are the challenger - we're trying to compete with them. Some of the messaging that they stumbled on just gave us more chances to compete with them in the States. Other markets are very different - in Europe, we have a larger market share and in Japan, we have a much longer history of being here. Being consistent and persistent helps; the legacy and people's associations with the brand, their memories of having a great time before.
Something that can be a weakness but can be a very strong asset for the PlayStation team is the management team that we have. Many of us in key positions have gone through all the transitions from the launch of PS1. Andrew House, Jack Tretton, myself and many of the executives were all there at the beginning. We've gone through great times and pretty difficult times together. I've never worked for another company, so I can just imagine, but we have a very efficient way of discussing issues and being open and honest. We make quick decisions when necessary, and that's something that's very fresh to me.
"We believe this is the most powerful console ever made. The content, the games available, the usage of PS4 surrounding games"

Now, because we work closely with Sony, many people are actually joining SCE headquarters from Sony. The number of smart people on the Sony electronics side is amazing - but all of them who join SCE say that they are amazed by how focused we are on the issues. We have meetings where we just jump onto the issues, make decisions and move on. That's very different from the Sony side, according to them. That history of us working through all the PlayStations of the last 20 years together - including Mark Cerny, who's not a Sony person but has always worked together with us - really helps us, I think, whether we're crafting messages or making sure that everyone knows what other parts of PlayStation are doing.

Aconsejo leerla.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... e-xbox-one

Lo de major Nelson y Penello te sobra. period.

Por lo demás, da asquito como el periodista le hace la ola.

En cuanto a lo que dice, coherente y preparado.

Un saludo

Te refieres como al destripe de la Xbox en DF???

cjdiez escribió:

Te refieres como al destripe de la Xbox en DF???

Ni idea de lo ques es el DF, pero siempre tenéis en la boca a microsoft, estáis pelín resentidos amigos

juan19 escribió:

lherre escribió:Entrevista a Yoshida, si Major Nelson o Penello se parecieran un poquito simplemente ...

Habla de todo, incluso de The Last Guardian, semi confirmando que va a ps4.

Q: I'll wrap up with an inevitable question which you're probably not going to answer. The Last Guardian - where is it? It's in this building [Sony Studios Japan] somewhere, presumably?

Shuhei Yoshida: Yeah, in this building!

Q: What console is it coming out on?

Shuhei Yoshida: Ahh... That, I cannot talk about.

Q: It doesn't seem to make any sense for it to a PS3 title so late in the lifespan. I know they have PS4 kits in their office, because I heard them talking about them...

Shuhei Yoshida: So, we're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way. I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet.

Q: The hiatus that was talked about at one time, that's over now? It's back in full production?

Shuhei Yoshida: Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton! He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now.

Y esto es PR bien hecha.

Q: You did very well from those comparisons at E3, but since then, a lot of things have changed in Microsoft's strategy. That's flattering for Sony - a lot of the things they've changed are now more like your approach - but it meant that by TGS, if I walked between the Microsoft booth and the Sony booth, the consoles now seem quite similar. There aren't any really huge differences any more - so how do you differentiate PS4 today, now that Microsoft has stopped doing unpopular things?

Shuhei Yoshida: We know they're very smart people. It's great that they were able to quickly realise that some of the things they were doing were not popular, and were able to make really quick decisions to change some of those things - even things that their engineering group must have spent a lot of time preparing before the launch. It must have been a very tough time for them. That shows how smart they are, and it shows their dedication to making Xbox One successful.

We never took them lightly. Especially in the States, we are the challenger - we're trying to compete with them. Some of the messaging that they stumbled on just gave us more chances to compete with them in the States. Other markets are very different - in Europe, we have a larger market share and in Japan, we have a much longer history of being here. Being consistent and persistent helps; the legacy and people's associations with the brand, their memories of having a great time before.
Something that can be a weakness but can be a very strong asset for the PlayStation team is the management team that we have. Many of us in key positions have gone through all the transitions from the launch of PS1. Andrew House, Jack Tretton, myself and many of the executives were all there at the beginning. We've gone through great times and pretty difficult times together. I've never worked for another company, so I can just imagine, but we have a very efficient way of discussing issues and being open and honest. We make quick decisions when necessary, and that's something that's very fresh to me.
"We believe this is the most powerful console ever made. The content, the games available, the usage of PS4 surrounding games"

Now, because we work closely with Sony, many people are actually joining SCE headquarters from Sony. The number of smart people on the Sony electronics side is amazing - but all of them who join SCE say that they are amazed by how focused we are on the issues. We have meetings where we just jump onto the issues, make decisions and move on. That's very different from the Sony side, according to them. That history of us working through all the PlayStations of the last 20 years together - including Mark Cerny, who's not a Sony person but has always worked together with us - really helps us, I think, whether we're crafting messages or making sure that everyone knows what other parts of PlayStation are doing.

Aconsejo leerla.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... e-xbox-one

lherre escribió:anonadado estoy ... gente defendiendo a PR's ...

eloskuro escribió:

Franky_el_Punky escribió:

eloskuro escribió:
Es que no hemos comentado nada o casi nada de esta noticia y de que se dice que ya hay un grupo trabajando en el juego. Cuando es el megatón de la semana.

Es que estando en un hilo de consolas hasta que no confirmen la salida del juego en estas, aparte de en Steam, puede significar darnos con un canto en los dientes hablando del tema si al final no sale

PD: Después de leer casi del tirón las últimas 20 páginas... que huevos tienes tronco, te metes en unos embolaos de aupa

Muchos pensamos que next gen tmb son juegos de pc, además teniendo en cuenta que el half life 2 salió para consolas, los consoleros estamos ávidos de noticias de Half life.
Otro dato más. Hemos estado hablando del Steam Os en este mismo hilo, y este se supone que es uno de sus juegos nativos.

juan19 escribió:

cjdiez escribió:Lo de major Nelson y Penello te sobra. period.

colets escribió:Meh, aficionados. Este sí que sabe hacer declaraciones calmadas, políticamente correctas y con ganas de "hacer amigos":
http://www.dorkly.com/article/54448/a-m ... abe-newell

Carta abierta de Newell tras los rumores de un Half-Life 3, atentos a los últimos párrafos
Aviso: no pongo la mano en el fuego de que no sea un fake.

vicent906 escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como sony ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

En terminos consolas llega ya hasta para estudio porque que ese "amor" tan profundo por parte de los usuarios, inclusive periodisticos (meristation, edge, etc etc), con ataques continuos y tergiversando las noticias es digno de analizarlo profundamente.

En fin no estoy defiendo a microsoft ni su consola pero es que no entiendo como no se ve el consolon y los juegazos que vienen con la one y que yo, futuro comprador de la misma, vea lo mismo con ps4 y su posible compra (la anterior generación que me lo pude permitir) porque ofrece lo mismo o parecido y que al final te decantes por una o otra por detalles...

Saludos y espero que tanto los "xboxeros" como los de la "play" tenga una mentalidad mas abierta y no llenen de fanatismos este foro como esta ocurriendo en muchos otros foros

Vitet escribió:

colets escribió:Meh, aficionados. Este sí que sabe hacer declaraciones calmadas, políticamente correctas y con ganas de "hacer amigos":
http://www.dorkly.com/article/54448/a-m ... abe-newell

Carta abierta de Newell tras los rumores de un Half-Life 3, atentos a los últimos párrafos
Aviso: no pongo la mano en el fuego de que no sea un fake.

Dorkly - Videogame Comedy

Vitet escribió:

cjdiez escribió:Lo de major Nelson y Penello te sobra. period.

Una semana después resultó que si era tan simple, porque quitaron todo el DRM

Scatsy escribió:

eloskuro escribió:Valve registra el nombre de Half-Life 3 en Europa, podría ser anunciado pronto

Bienvenido a hace un par de dias xDDDDD.

Soy ultrafan de Half Life y el día que Gaben anuncie el HL3 pillaré un billete a los usa para poder hacerle una mamada pero vamos, esto me suena a renovacion de marca por si las moscas mas que a otra cosa.

Vitet escribió:

cjdiez escribió:Lo de major Nelson y Penello te sobra. period.

Una semana después resultó que si era tan simple, porque quitaron todo el DRM

Arkanoid escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Microsoft ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

En terminos consolas llega ya hasta para estudio porque que ese "amor" tan profundo por parte de los usuarios, inclusive periodisticos (meristation, edge, etc etc), con ataques continuos y tergiversando las noticias es digno de analizarlo profundamente.

En fin no estoy defiendo a Sony ni su consola pero es que no entiendo como no se ve el consolon y los juegazos que vienen con la PS4 y que yo, futuro comprador de la misma, vea lo mismo con ONEy su posible compra (la anterior generación que me lo pude permitir) porque ofrece lo mismo o parecido y que al final te decantes por una o otra por detalles...

Saludos y espero que tanto los "soniers" como los de la "xbox" tenga una mentalidad mas abierta y no llenen de fanatismos este foro como esta ocurriendo en muchos otros foros

Arkanoid escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Microsoft ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

Natsu escribió:

Arkanoid escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Microsoft ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

Pero si eso pasa con todas las marcas...

Natsu escribió:

Arkanoid escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Microsoft ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

Pero si eso pasa con todas las marcas...

tiku escribió:Veo que el post estándar válido para cualquier compañía está creando la confusión necesaria en quien tocaba según lean la versión correspondiente xDDDDDDDD

cjdiez escribió:Por cierto, acojonante como luce el 2k14 next gen

vicent906 escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como sony ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

En terminos consolas llega ya hasta para estudio porque que ese "amor" tan profundo por parte de los usuarios, inclusive periodisticos (meristation, edge, etc etc), con ataques continuos y tergiversando las noticias es digno de analizarlo profundamente.

En fin no estoy defiendo a microsoft ni su consola pero es que no entiendo como no se ve el consolon y los juegazos que vienen con la one y que yo, futuro comprador de la misma, vea lo mismo con ps4 y su posible compra (la anterior generación que me lo pude permitir) porque ofrece lo mismo o parecido y que al final te decantes por una o otra por detalles...

Saludos y espero que tanto los "xboxeros" como los de la "play" tenga una mentalidad mas abierta y no llenen de fanatismos este foro como esta ocurriendo en muchos otros foros

Arkanoid escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Microsoft ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

En terminos consolas llega ya hasta para estudio porque que ese "amor" tan profundo por parte de los usuarios, inclusive periodisticos (meristation, edge, etc etc), con ataques continuos y tergiversando las noticias es digno de analizarlo profundamente.

En fin no estoy defiendo a Sony ni su consola pero es que no entiendo como no se ve el consolon y los juegazos que vienen con la PS4 y que yo, futuro comprador de la misma, vea lo mismo con ONEy su posible compra (la anterior generación que me lo pude permitir) porque ofrece lo mismo o parecido y que al final te decantes por una o otra por detalles...

Saludos y espero que tanto los "soniers" como los de la "xbox" tenga una mentalidad mas abierta y no llenen de fanatismos este foro como esta ocurriendo en muchos otros foros

DANIPSX escribió:La verdad es que todavía no entiendo como Nintendo ha conseguido tanto poder como para que la gente no vea las bondades de los otros productos de la competencia y ya ni te digo de tan siquiera plantearse la compra que no sean sus productos.

En terminos consolas llega ya hasta para estudio porque que ese "amor" tan profundo por parte de los usuarios, inclusive periodisticos (meristation, edge, etc etc), con ataques continuos y tergiversando las noticias es digno de analizarlo profundamente.

En fin no estoy defiendo a Sony o Microsoft ni su consola pero es que no entiendo como no se ve el consolon y los juegazos que vienen con la PS4, XBOXONE y que yo, futuro comprador de laS mismaS, vea lo mismo con ONE/PS4 y su posible compra (la anterior generación que me lo pude permitir) porque ofrece lo mismo o parecido y que al final te decantes por una o otra por detalles...

Saludos y espero que tanto los "soniers" como los de la "xbox" tenga una mentalidad mas abierta y no llenen de fanatismos este foro como esta ocurriendo en muchos otros foros

vicent906 escribió:Me hace gracias los comentarios de los que "describis la potencia de la one para que el que se la compre vea lo mala que es y no le engañen" . No os preocupeis que eso no pasara porque los que nos decidimos por la one hemos tenido la xbox360 y la ps3 y sabemos la que cogio finalmente polvo.