[Debate] Hablemos de la New-Gen...

The End escribió:Si la presentan tan temprano supongo que la piensan sacar este año.


Bueno, en Europa, para no perder la tradición, seguramente nos llegará mas tarde

Spardy escribió:

The End escribió:Si la presentan tan temprano supongo que la piensan sacar este año.


Bueno, en Europa, para no perder la tradición, seguramente nos llegará mas tarde

Espero que Sony no sea tan gilipollas como para dejarse pasar unas navidades en europa otra vez más... encima seguro que tiene competidora de xbox en navidad, fijisimo

Development sources with working knowledge of both next generation consoles have told us that PlayStation 4 will be more powerful than the next Xbox, will ship with a redesigned controller and launch by the end of the year in Japan and the US. PlayStation 4’s European launch will follow in early 2014.

Sony is set to reveal its next PlayStation on Wednesday February 20th at an event dubbed ‘see the future’. Sony Computer Entertainment released a teaser video last night to announce the event. Below, our sources revealed what to expect from PlayStation 4.

The controller

Sources close to the hardware have revealed to us that PS4 will ship with a redesigned controller which is the same size as an existing DualShock but features a small touchpad in place of the existing Select, Start and PS buttons. The tech is based on Vita’s rear touchpad, and is similarly responsive in use.

A new Share button on the controller will, when pressed, launch a new feature that will allow screenshots and video to be distributed online. The PS4 hardware will continually record the most recent 15 minutes of onscreen action (with no processing penalty, claims our source), which users will then be able to edit and broadcast via the Internet.

The launch

We’re told that PlayStation 4 will launch in Japan and the US by Christmas, with a Euro rollout following in early 2014, the delay attributed to the complexities involved in European distribution. Alongside the console, Sony will also introduce a new, improved iteration of its PlayStation Eye peripheral, which remains compatible with the PlayStation Move controller. Move will be available at launch, but it’s not clear yet whether it will be bundled with the hardware. Sony has already earned an enormous amount of goodwill among studios working with PS4 development hardware. Privately, Sony representatives have conceded that the company made a mistake in creating such esoteric architecture for PS3, and its strategy for PS4 gives developers more opportunities this time around, notably because the hardware is much more PC-like in its makeup than PS3.

We have confirmed with sources that recently leaked tech specs are accurate. Though Durango devkits offer 8GB of DDR3 RAM, compared to Orbis’s 4GB, Sony’s GDDR5 solution is capable of moving data at 176 gigabytes per second, which should eliminate the sort of bottlenecks that hampered PS3 game performance. Importantly, we’ve learned that Sony has told developers that it is pushing for the final PS4 RAM to match up to Microsoft’s 8GB.

Both platforms are driven by eight-core AMD CPUs clocked at 1.6GHz, with Microsoft opting for a D3D11.x GPU from an unknown source and Sony utilising a more capable solution in AMD’s ‘R10XX’ architecture, alongside the so-called ‘Liverpool’ system-on-chip.

It’s clear Sony has designed a system that, on paper, outperforms Microsoft’s next Xbox. One source familiar with both platforms tells us that in real terms Sony’s console is “slightly more powerful” and “very simple to work with”.

Ultimately, the performance differences between the two consoles will have as much bearing on multiplatform releases as the differences between PS3 and 360 – very little – but Sony will be expecting big-budget firstparty releases such as the PS4 Uncharted sequel to demonstrate its console’s superiority.

J_Ark escribió:http://www.edge-online.com/news/playstation-4-revealed/

Development sources with working knowledge of both next generation consoles have told us that PlayStation 4 will be more powerful than the next Xbox, will ship with a redesigned controller and launch by the end of the year in Japan and the US. PlayStation 4’s European launch will follow in early 2014.

Sony is set to reveal its next PlayStation on Wednesday February 20th at an event dubbed ‘see the future’. Sony Computer Entertainment released a teaser video last night to announce the event. Below, our sources revealed what to expect from PlayStation 4.

The controller

Sources close to the hardware have revealed to us that PS4 will ship with a redesigned controller which is the same size as an existing DualShock but features a small touchpad in place of the existing Select, Start and PS buttons. The tech is based on Vita’s rear touchpad, and is similarly responsive in use.

A new Share button on the controller will, when pressed, launch a new feature that will allow screenshots and video to be distributed online. The PS4 hardware will continually record the most recent 15 minutes of onscreen action (with no processing penalty, claims our source), which users will then be able to edit and broadcast via the Internet.

The launch

We’re told that PlayStation 4 will launch in Japan and the US by Christmas, with a Euro rollout following in early 2014, the delay attributed to the complexities involved in European distribution. Alongside the console, Sony will also introduce a new, improved iteration of its PlayStation Eye peripheral, which remains compatible with the PlayStation Move controller. Move will be available at launch, but it’s not clear yet whether it will be bundled with the hardware. Sony has already earned an enormous amount of goodwill among studios working with PS4 development hardware. Privately, Sony representatives have conceded that the company made a mistake in creating such esoteric architecture for PS3, and its strategy for PS4 gives developers more opportunities this time around, notably because the hardware is much more PC-like in its makeup than PS3.

We have confirmed with sources that recently leaked tech specs are accurate. Though Durango devkits offer 8GB of DDR3 RAM, compared to Orbis’s 4GB, Sony’s GDDR5 solution is capable of moving data at 176 gigabytes per second, which should eliminate the sort of bottlenecks that hampered PS3 game performance. Importantly, we’ve learned that Sony has told developers that it is pushing for the final PS4 RAM to match up to Microsoft’s 8GB.

Both platforms are driven by eight-core AMD CPUs clocked at 1.6GHz, with Microsoft opting for a D3D11.x GPU from an unknown source and Sony utilising a more capable solution in AMD’s ‘R10XX’ architecture, alongside the so-called ‘Liverpool’ system-on-chip.

It’s clear Sony has designed a system that, on paper, outperforms Microsoft’s next Xbox. One source familiar with both platforms tells us that in real terms Sony’s console is “slightly more powerful” and “very simple to work with”.

Ultimately, the performance differences between the two consoles will have as much bearing on multiplatform releases as the differences between PS3 and 360 – very little – but Sony will be expecting big-budget firstparty releases such as the PS4 Uncharted sequel to demonstrate its console’s superiority.

Machinicle escribió:

Valkyria escribió:Soo It begins....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -3GMHIgR-U

Hype por las nubes.

Va en serio? 20 de febrero? mas pronto de lo que esperaba, aunque no me quejo xD

Puta madre cuanta cosa guapa para este año, la de juegos guapos que vienen para PC y PS360, y encima nuevas consolas...como odio ser pobre

ZaRMaN escribió:Un tema que me preocupa, ¿pensáis que las nuevas consolas de Microsoft y Sony tendrán retrocompatibilidad?. Me gustaría poder aprovechar mi actual colección sin tener que acumular consolas

J_Ark escribió:

ZaRMaN escribió:Un tema que me preocupa, ¿pensáis que las nuevas consolas de Microsoft y Sony tendrán retrocompatibilidad?. Me gustaría poder aprovechar mi actual colección sin tener que acumular consolas

Por continuidad de arquitectura yo diría que Xbox si (a menos que pasen mucho del tema) y Ps3 imposible.

OGA_1080 escribió:

Machinicle escribió:

Valkyria escribió:Soo It begins....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -3GMHIgR-U

Hype por las nubes.

Va en serio? 20 de febrero? mas pronto de lo que esperaba, aunque no me quejo xD

Puta madre cuanta cosa guapa para este año, la de juegos guapos que vienen para PC y PS360, y encima nuevas consolas...como odio ser pobre

No se ilusionen ese día solo presentarán psvita slim.

El momento ha llegado....

tiku escribió:Y ahí es donde yo creo que entra en juego Gaikai.

tiku escribió:Y ahí es donde yo creo que entra en juego Gaikai.

NeCLaRT escribió:

tiku escribió:Y ahí es donde yo creo que entra en juego Gaikai.

Pero eso imagino que equivaldra a revenderte los juegos, no tiene que ver con reutilizar tus discos. Eso en un principio seria para quien no haya tenido ps3, no para quien la tiene con 50 titulos en su estanteria.

daymaster escribió:Hombre,teniendo en cuenta que hasta publicaciones importsntes del mundo se han hecho eco de la noticia diciendo que presentaran la ps4,me pareceria una canallada por parte de sony el no desmentirlo si fuera incierto, porque no se trata de rumores y comentarios en foros.

J_Ark escribió:

tiku escribió:Y ahí es donde yo creo que entra en juego Gaikai.

Mucho coste veo ahí, como no sea con PSN+.

Colen escribió:

daymaster escribió:Hombre,teniendo en cuenta que hasta publicaciones importsntes del mundo se han hecho eco de la noticia diciendo que presentaran la ps4,me pareceria una canallada por parte de sony el no desmentirlo si fuera incierto, porque no se trata de rumores y comentarios en foros.

No digo que no sea la ps4, que seguramente sea, efectivamente.

Pero ya sabemos lo propicia que es la gente a montarse pajas mentales ellos solitos, y cuándo no es lo que soñaban, encima se enfadan diciendo que estaba "prometido".

tiku escribió:

Colen escribió:

daymaster escribió:Hombre,teniendo en cuenta que hasta publicaciones importsntes del mundo se han hecho eco de la noticia diciendo que presentaran la ps4,me pareceria una canallada por parte de sony el no desmentirlo si fuera incierto, porque no se trata de rumores y comentarios en foros.

No digo que no sea la ps4, que seguramente sea, efectivamente.

Pero ya sabemos lo propicia que es la gente a montarse pajas mentales ellos solitos, y cuándo no es lo que soñaban, encima se enfadan diciendo que estaba "prometido".

Ultra this xD

Shigeru Miyamoto, the legend behind Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, and more, has admitted that "it takes time to understand the charm" of Nintendo's latest console, the Wii U. Personally, I saw right away what the console was capable of and the new experiences it brought to the table, as I'm sure many others did. But the larger audience still sees the Wii U and thinks it's nothing but a Wii with an iPad slapped on.

“It takes time to understand the charm of Wii U. We are currently offering a few titles but we are aiming for games that sell steadily for the next three years, not for games that stop selling after a few weeks. We have a lot of ideas for two-screen play. We definitely need more employees internally and externally so we are strengthening our development teams.”

This has certainly proven to be the case, as well. After expanding Retro Studios and merging their two hardware development teams, it seems Nintendo is ready to take gaming in a new direction and expand their company into new territory. Only after developing tons of triple-A games from several different genres that all sell well years after their launch, will consumers from all areas of the gaming industry recognize the true potential of Wii U

Rai_Seiyuu escribió:Miyamoto Says Understanding Wii U Takes Time

Shigeru Miyamoto, the legend behind Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, and more, has admitted that "it takes time to understand the charm" of Nintendo's latest console, the Wii U. Personally, I saw right away what the console was capable of and the new experiences it brought to the table, as I'm sure many others did. But the larger audience still sees the Wii U and thinks it's nothing but a Wii with an iPad slapped on.

“It takes time to understand the charm of Wii U. We are currently offering a few titles but we are aiming for games that sell steadily for the next three years, not for games that stop selling after a few weeks. We have a lot of ideas for two-screen play. We definitely need more employees internally and externally so we are strengthening our development teams.”

This has certainly proven to be the case, as well. After expanding Retro Studios and merging their two hardware development teams, it seems Nintendo is ready to take gaming in a new direction and expand their company into new territory. Only after developing tons of triple-A games from several different genres that all sell well years after their launch, will consumers from all areas of the gaming industry recognize the true potential of Wii U

Game Cube escribió:Ojala la nueva consola de Sony lleve retro, porque el tema de Gaikai no me gusta nada. Imaginaros que teneis 90 juegos de Ps3 y por lo que sea la consola se estropea y ya no teneis garantia. Pues os tendriais que pillar una Ps3 nueva, porque si ya has pagado por esos 90 juegos, imaginate que los tienes en Gaikai pero a 30 Euros cada juego. Espero que Sony no meta la pata con el tema retro y haga todo lo que este en su mano por incluirlo. Un saludo.

Arel escribió:

Game Cube escribió:Ojala la nueva consola de Sony lleve retro, porque el tema de Gaikai no me gusta nada. Imaginaros que teneis 90 juegos de Ps3 y por lo que sea la consola se estropea y ya no teneis garantia. Pues os tendriais que pillar una Ps3 nueva, porque si ya has pagado por esos 90 juegos, imaginate que los tienes en Gaikai pero a 30 Euros cada juego. Espero que Sony no meta la pata con el tema retro y haga todo lo que este en su mano por incluirlo. Un saludo.

+ 1 y si me lo permites, añado el sistema anti-segunda mano, me tiene bastante preocupado y si la incluye una, me obligará a decantarme por la otra

Game Cube escribió:Ojala la nueva consola de Sony lleve retro, porque el tema de Gaikai no me gusta nada. Imaginaros que teneis 90 juegos de Ps3 y por lo que sea la consola se estropea y ya no teneis garantia. Pues os tendriais que pillar una Ps3 nueva, porque si ya has pagado por esos 90 juegos, imaginate que los tienes en Gaikai pero a 30 Euros cada juego. Espero que Sony no meta la pata con el tema retro y haga todo lo que este en su mano por incluirlo. Un saludo.

jamendoza escribió:Para mi, el tema de la segunda mano es primordial. No segunda mano, no consola.

daymaster escribió:Yo ahora me pregunto. Es tan dificil hacer evolucionar una arquitectura como es la de ps3 y asi ser retrocompatible como hacen los pc en vez de cambiar de arquitectura con cada nueva consola?

Es que no lo entiendo mucho.

tiku escribió:Simplemente hay cosas que se pueden asegurar mucho mejor que otras

NeCLaRT escribió:

Game Cube escribió:Ojala la nueva consola de Sony lleve retro, porque el tema de Gaikai no me gusta nada. Imaginaros que teneis 90 juegos de Ps3 y por lo que sea la consola se estropea y ya no teneis garantia. Pues os tendriais que pillar una Ps3 nueva, porque si ya has pagado por esos 90 juegos, imaginate que los tienes en Gaikai pero a 30 Euros cada juego. Espero que Sony no meta la pata con el tema retro y haga todo lo que este en su mano por incluirlo. Un saludo.

En esas fechas el precio de una ps3 funcional sera lo de menos. No entiendo porque la gente tiene tanta cosa con la retrocompatibilidad, almenos los que han tenido la maquina anterior.

A la segunda mano le queda lo que al formato fisico, esta generacion.

Don_Boqueronnn escribió:Supongo que en este instante sería bueno mencionar el excepcional (viendo la grandísima dificultad) trabajo de Nintendo con su retrocompatibilidad tras su cambio de política con la Wii, y la Wii U, espero que sigan así.

Don_Boqueronnn escribió:Es broma

The End escribió:Entiendo que esta muy complicada la retrocompatibilidad con la actual generación, pero ¿y con las generaciones anteriores? Seria todo un detalle que, al igual que en PS3 se puede jugar a juegos de PS1, las consolas next-gen tuvieran retrocompatibilidad con la PS1, PS2 y Xbox1, que supongo que las podrán emular sin despeinarse.

Pero claro, supongo que les saldrá mas a cuenta poner los juegos antiguos en formato digital o packs recopilatorios y volver a cobrarlos otra vez