subsonic escribió:Esta frase es un poco contradictoria.This is a game which is about simulation, but not to the detriment of fun. Gran Turismo has always recognised that it needs to be easy to pick up and play and here, with GT Sport, that philosophy has returned.
![[facepalm]](/images/smilies/facepalm.gif "facepalm")
Lo dije yo y otros usuarios (que gráficamente eran muy parejos sobresaliendo la pre-alpha de Assetto por poco) y por mi parte lo mantengo (ya veremos que pasa en las versiones finales de cada juego), porque por ejemplo a nivel de vegetación y texturas del terreno Assetto es superior a lo mostrado de GT (al igual que digo que GTS es superior en iluminación), Yamauchi y su equipo pueden hacerlo mucho mejor y eso lo sabemos todos, pero bueno conociéndote de otros sitios se que no lo vas a aceptar.Cantata escribió:Quién decía página atras que la alpha de Assetto en PS4 es superior a nivel gráfico a la alpha de GT Sport?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL7VsDxn-g
Ahí que m lol![[qmparto]](/images/smilies/net_quemeparto.gif "Que me parto!")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkKRofIcE4
Os dejo también otro gameplay del Bugatti versión GT con la cámara Interior en el circuito de Tokyo que luce espectacular con dicha cámara .
![[+risas]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani3.gif "más risas")
Cantata escribió:Quién decía página atras que la alpha de Assetto en PS4 es superior a nivel gráfico a la alpha de GT Sport?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL7VsDxn-g
Hay que melol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkKRofIcE4
Os dejo también otro gameplay del Bugatti visión GT con la cámara Interior en el circuito de Tokyo que luce espectacular con dicha cámara.
Remaster de GT 6 dicen
Cantata escribió:Quién decía página atras que la alpha de Assetto en PS4 es superior a nivel gráfico a la alpha de GT Sport?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL7VsDxn-g
Hay que melol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkKRofIcE4
Os dejo también otro gameplay del Bugatti visión GT con la cámara Interior en el circuito de Tokyo que luce espectacular con dicha cámara.
Remaster de GT 6 dicen
Cantata escribió:Quién decía página atras que la alpha de Assetto en PS4 es superior a nivel gráfico a la alpha de GT Sport?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL7VsDxn-g
Hay que melol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkKRofIcE4
Os dejo también otro gameplay del Bugatti visión GT con la cámara Interior en el circuito de Tokyo que luce espectacular con dicha cámara.
Remaster de GT 6 dicen
![[toctoc]](/images/smilies/nuevos2/rompiendo.gif "machacando")
. slimcharles escribió:Acaba de postear este vídeo seco en el hilo de Assetto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWJAuZhWwUM
GT mejores gráficos? Venga hasta luego
. caren103 escribió:Creo que cuando ambos títulos estén en el mercado, es cuando se podrá ver dónde queda cada cuál a nivel de impresión gráfica, estabilidad de framerate y demás.
Yo con lo visto y leído hasta ahora del GT estoy mareado, porque tras las flojas impresiones iniciales, PD se puso las pilas a base de builds y demás, y ya parecía pintar mejor la cosa.
Obviamente, luego está el gusto de cada cual, porque si a uno le gusta más la paleta de colores de un juego o su dirección artística, eso no significa que tenga mejores o peores gráficos, sino que a esa persona se le ajusta mejor con sus gustos.
Pero en fin, de todo lo visto, me sigo quedando de momento con el gran Driveclub y a la espera de ver cómo terminará el proyecto en que están metidos los ex-Evolution en Codemasters
kaulitz55 escribió:Y no olvidemos que en PC "lo normal" es que luzca algo mejor, hasta que no se vean ambos juegos en fase gold y en consolas no creo que sea justo comparar el uno con el otro.
Así es, pero de paso están mejorando la optimización del motor gráfico y le están añadiendo efectos y mejoras gráficas (y se ha confirmado que seguirán haciendo eso incluso después del lanzamiento en consola)slimcharles escribió:caren103 escribió:Creo que cuando ambos títulos estén en el mercado, es cuando se podrá ver dónde queda cada cuál a nivel de impresión gráfica, estabilidad de framerate y demás.
Yo con lo visto y leído hasta ahora del GT estoy mareado, porque tras las flojas impresiones iniciales, PD se puso las pilas a base de builds y demás, y ya parecía pintar mejor la cosa.
Obviamente, luego está el gusto de cada cual, porque si a uno le gusta más la paleta de colores de un juego o su dirección artística, eso no significa que tenga mejores o peores gráficos, sino que a esa persona se le ajusta mejor con sus gustos.
Pero en fin, de todo lo visto, me sigo quedando de momento con el gran Driveclub y a la espera de ver cómo terminará el proyecto en que están metidos los ex-Evolution en Codemasters
Si claro, estoy comparando las versiones actuales. GT de aquí a su salida podría mejorar bastante, Assetto lo dudo mucho ya que la versión de PC no da para mucho más, de hecho creo que lo único que están haciendo es adaptar la versión de PC a consolas (que me corrija seco si no es cierto).
Sobre la paleta de colores, a mí me gustan las dos. Es más agradable y espectacular la de GT. La de Assetto es más real. No digo cual sea mejor o peor.
seco46 escribió:kaulitz55 escribió:Y no olvidemos que en PC "lo normal" es que luzca algo mejor, hasta que no se vean ambos juegos en fase gold y en consolas no creo que sea justo comparar el uno con el otro.
El vídeo de Assetto que ha puesto @slimcharles es de PS4
kaulitz55 escribió:seco46 escribió:kaulitz55 escribió:Y no olvidemos que en PC "lo normal" es que luzca algo mejor, hasta que no se vean ambos juegos en fase gold y en consolas no creo que sea justo comparar el uno con el otro.
El vídeo de Assetto que ha puesto @slimcharles es de PS4
Ya lo se @seco46 jaja, pero a lo que me refiero es que tanto uno como el otro no sabemos como llevan su desarrollo en consolas, al menos en el caso de Gran Turismo Sport ya que se "supone" que está aún al 50% y que lo mostrado fue de una versión más antigua, así que a saber como acabará una vez esté finalizado.
![[beer]](/images/smilies/nuevos2/brindando.gif "brindis")
Cantata escribió:Quién decía página atras que la alpha de Assetto en PS4 es superior a nivel gráfico a la alpha de GT Sport?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL7VsDxn-g
Hay que melol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlkKRofIcE4
Os dejo también otro gameplay del Bugatti visión GT con la cámara Interior en el circuito de Tokyo que luce espectacular con dicha cámara.
Remaster de GT 6 dicen
[/quote] caren103 escribió:
Los jugadores de Gran Turismo Sport podrán sacarse licencias FIA desde dentro del juego, licencias las cuales serán válidas para participar en carreras de verdad.
![[360º]](/images/smilies/nuevos/vueltas.gif "como la niña del exorcista")
Ese gameplay de Assetto es del año pasado, por lo tanto es anterior a las mejoras gráficas (evidentes) que metieron con la 1.5 de PC en Marzo (en otras palabras, ahora se ve mejor)slimcharles escribió:Es que es claramente un remaster de GT6. Solo hay que ver Willow Springs. Si tu dices que no lo es pues nada
Yo no he hablado solo de la paleta de colores. Los interiores de los circuitos están mejor hechos. La pista en sí también. Los exteriores no. Y... la playa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7e-WiWyB0
Por exagerar se puede decir que en GT Sport ves la vegetación como si la hubiesen pintado con fosforito.
Beta:
https://twitter.com/SSIMONEZZ27/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw
nene15708 escribió:Solrack escribió:subsonic escribió:Estoy de acuerdo contigo, no digo que para ser más simulador tiene que ser más difícil, para nada. De hecho, aunque la frase me parezca un poco contradictoria, en el fondo se lo que quieren decir.
Ahora bien, si hablamos de simulación no se pueden mencionar cosas como "easy to pick up and play", porque aunque la conducción no necesariamente tenga que ser extremadamente difícil, llevar un coche al límite sí lo es, y ese "easy to pick up and play" lo hace accesible a todo el mundo, lo cual no es malo, dicho sea de paso, pero esa facilidad es la que hace que muchas carreras online sean como son.
Un saludo
Hacer tiempos muy competitivos en GT no es sencillo y hay que echarle horas para jugar con cierta gente en el online. GT no será todo lo real que debería/podría pero no por lo que comentas.
Y nadie ha dicho que ir al limite y hacer buenos tiempos no sea dificil, creo. Es mas por las burradas que GT permite hacer sin tener consecuencias, comparandolo con un Simulador.
![[carcajad]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani2.gif "carcajada")
. Que me corrija el si entendí mal pero dice que llevar un coche al limite, sí que debería ser dificil (insinuando por lo tanto que en GT, no lo es). KiMika escribió:caren103 escribió:
Los jugadores de Gran Turismo Sport podrán sacarse licencias FIA desde dentro del juego, licencias las cuales serán válidas para participar en carreras de verdad.
Pero que puta mierda es esa? Dar licencia de la FIA por jugar a un juego? Al Gran Turismo?
![[oki]](/images/smilies/net_thumbsup.gif "Ok!")
Espero que no estés insinuando que GT es lo más realista que hay y por eso lo del FIA, porque como sea así..._Nolgan_ escribió:KiMika escribió:caren103 escribió:
Los jugadores de Gran Turismo Sport podrán sacarse licencias FIA desde dentro del juego, licencias las cuales serán válidas para participar en carreras de verdad.
Pero que puta mierda es esa? Dar licencia de la FIA por jugar a un juego? Al Gran Turismo?
si, y ademas ya hay varios paises europeos que las ADMITEN como OFICIAL!!! ese carnet de la FIA
ahora deberias hacerte pensar porque con GT si y con otros no?? y no creo que sony tenga tanto dinero para comprar a la FIA porque posiblemten la FIA tenga mas dinero que sony
seco46 escribió:Espero que no estés insinuando que GT es lo más realista que hay y por eso lo del FIA, porque como sea así..._Nolgan_ escribió:KiMika escribió:Pero que puta mierda es esa? Dar licencia de la FIA por jugar a un juego? Al Gran Turismo?
si, y ademas ya hay varios paises europeos que las ADMITEN como OFICIAL!!! ese carnet de la FIA
ahora deberias hacerte pensar porque con GT si y con otros no?? y no creo que sony tenga tanto dinero para comprar a la FIA porque posiblemten la FIA tenga mas dinero que sony
The madness of Gran Turismo Sport
Yamauchi's plan to revive motorsport comes to life - but can it save his series from itself?
By Martin Robinson Published 25/05/2016
...
Back in 2014, when Gran Turismo's partnership with the FIA, motorsport's governing body, was announced, Yamauchi's ambitions were no less than reviving the sport itself, arresting its declining popularity and broadening its appeal to an all-new, younger audience. Gran Turismo Sport is the first step towards his new goal, a tie-in with the FIA that goes to astounding lengths. Get to a certain stage within the game, and you're granted your own FIA racing licence. It's a prospect so out there I'm still not entirely sure how it'll work.
"The FIA Gran Turismo digital licence is something we've discussed with automobile clubs and the FIA for the past three years," explains Yamauchi at the event. "A little bit at a time, things have been moving forward, and the world motorsports council a few months ago there was a vote to allow the announcement of this project. It's not something we're rushing into. What the programme actually entails - the licence is only granted once you go through a lot of different subjects that cover your manner on the track, safety issues - and the behaviour of the player is judged on aspects that are required in real life racing. Once you're eligible for that licence, that information will be shared from Gran Turismo to the relevant automobile clubs. From there on, it's up to those clubs to decide how they're going to handle this."
The MSA, the UK's own governing body of motorsport, is onboard, as are 21 other countries at present, and while the practicalities are yet to be clear - and there will always remain the costly issue of actually getting yourself a race car - the prospect's an exciting one.
...
On console, far removed from the hard-edged action of iRacing, there's room for a serious competitive racer, and there's much about Gran Turismo Sport to suggest it could be that game. Its FIA tie-in feels like more than just lip service, too - too many racing games overlook the fundamentals of motorsport and get caught in their own muddle, but in looking to the real thing for inspiration Polyphony has potentially chanced upon something great.
...
For the dedicated, and for those in thrall to motor racing, Gran Turismo Sport's shaping up to be quite the proposition. For the rest? There's not so much, and Sport's particular pursuit looks to come at the expense of its broader appeal. Time was you could rely on Gran Turismo to be a centrepiece for PlayStation, a technical showcase that would sell you on the power of its host hardware. Even taking into account the seven months left of development before the November release of Gran Turismo Sport, it's fair to say that's no longer the case.
The bubble in which Polyphony Digital operates only appears to have hardened in recent years, and by most modern standards Gran Turismo Sport falls short. There's not the splendour and polish of Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 6, the finesse and thoughtfulness found in Kunos Simulazioni's Assetto Corsa or the bark of Sector 3's Race Room Experience. It's not an ugly game - far from it - though it's not quite the generational leap you might have hoped for from a first-party developer of Polyphony's heritage and calibre.
...
The visuals lack polish, and are given to some noticeable stutters when the current cap of 20 cars are all jostling on track, and the sound, while an improvement upon what's gone before, still falls flat when compared to its peers.
...
Still, at least the cars feel more alive, each one displaying a level of personality that's unmatched on console (at least, that is, until Assetto Corsa arrives later this year). Across a couple of hour's play it's hard to pinpoint where Sport improves upon its predecessor...
"What we aim for, in developing the physics engine, is the driver has a feel for the car. Real does not mean difficult, because anyone can drive cars. That's a misunderstanding that's become standard around the world - that real is hard. That's a misconception that we aim to right. In order to achieve that, there's a lot of minute details that have to be worked on. The evolution, it is taking place - and even in the version today, it's not 100 per cent to where we want to take it. Hopefully you can already feel what we're working towards."
...
Gran Turismo's new focus might see it move away from the old pleasure of doing extraordinary things to ordinary cars, but that side of the series is still there if you want it.
There are better driving games out there - ones that look prettier, that sound better and that offer more by way of action. Gran Turismo is no longer the definitive driving simulator, and nor in this Sport incarnation is it the expansive automotive almanac of old. In its advanced years it's become something of an anomaly, an often maddening folly that shouldn't really be possible in this day and age. It might be as frustrating as it is fascinating, but perhaps we should be grateful such lunacy still exists.
fluzo escribió:Pero enserio os creeis eso de que os dan la Licencia real por jugar a un videojuego ???
The madness of Gran Turismo Sport
Yamauchi's plan to revive motorsport comes to life - but can it save his series from itself?
By Martin Robinson Published 25/05/2016
...
Back in 2014, when Gran Turismo's partnership with the FIA, motorsport's governing body, was announced, Yamauchi's ambitions were no less than reviving the sport itself, arresting its declining popularity and broadening its appeal to an all-new, younger audience. Gran Turismo Sport is the first step towards his new goal, a tie-in with the FIA that goes to astounding lengths. Get to a certain stage within the game, and you're granted your own FIA racing licence. It's a prospect so out there I'm still not entirely sure how it'll work.
"The FIA Gran Turismo digital licence is something we've discussed with automobile clubs and the FIA for the past three years," explains Yamauchi at the event. "A little bit at a time, things have been moving forward, and the world motorsports council a few months ago there was a vote to allow the announcement of this project. It's not something we're rushing into. What the programme actually entails - the licence is only granted once you go through a lot of different subjects that cover your manner on the track, safety issues - and the behaviour of the player is judged on aspects that are required in real life racing. Once you're eligible for that licence, that information will be shared from Gran Turismo to the relevant automobile clubs. From there on, it's up to those clubs to decide how they're going to handle this."
The MSA, the UK's own governing body of motorsport, is onboard, as are 21 other countries at present, and while the practicalities are yet to be clear - and there will always remain the costly issue of actually getting yourself a race car - the prospect's an exciting one.
...
On console, far removed from the hard-edged action of iRacing, there's room for a serious competitive racer, and there's much about Gran Turismo Sport to suggest it could be that game. Its FIA tie-in feels like more than just lip service, too - too many racing games overlook the fundamentals of motorsport and get caught in their own muddle, but in looking to the real thing for inspiration Polyphony has potentially chanced upon something great.
...
For the dedicated, and for those in thrall to motor racing, Gran Turismo Sport's shaping up to be quite the proposition. For the rest? There's not so much, and Sport's particular pursuit looks to come at the expense of its broader appeal. Time was you could rely on Gran Turismo to be a centrepiece for PlayStation, a technical showcase that would sell you on the power of its host hardware. Even taking into account the seven months left of development before the November release of Gran Turismo Sport, it's fair to say that's no longer the case.
The bubble in which Polyphony Digital operates only appears to have hardened in recent years, and by most modern standards Gran Turismo Sport falls short. There's not the splendour and polish of Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 6, the finesse and thoughtfulness found in Kunos Simulazioni's Assetto Corsa or the bark of Sector 3's Race Room Experience. It's not an ugly game - far from it - though it's not quite the generational leap you might have hoped for from a first-party developer of Polyphony's heritage and calibre.
...
The visuals lack polish, and are given to some noticeable stutters when the current cap of 20 cars are all jostling on track, and the sound, while an improvement upon what's gone before, still falls flat when compared to its peers.
...
Still, at least the cars feel more alive, each one displaying a level of personality that's unmatched on console (at least, that is, until Assetto Corsa arrives later this year). Across a couple of hour's play it's hard to pinpoint where Sport improves upon its predecessor...
"What we aim for, in developing the physics engine, is the driver has a feel for the car. Real does not mean difficult, because anyone can drive cars. That's a misunderstanding that's become standard around the world - that real is hard. That's a misconception that we aim to right. In order to achieve that, there's a lot of minute details that have to be worked on. The evolution, it is taking place - and even in the version today, it's not 100 per cent to where we want to take it. Hopefully you can already feel what we're working towards."
...
Gran Turismo's new focus might see it move away from the old pleasure of doing extraordinary things to ordinary cars, but that side of the series is still there if you want it.
There are better driving games out there - ones that look prettier, that sound better and that offer more by way of action. Gran Turismo is no longer the definitive driving simulator, and nor in this Sport incarnation is it the expansive automotive almanac of old. In its advanced years it's become something of an anomaly, an often maddening folly that shouldn't really be possible in this day and age. It might be as frustrating as it is fascinating, but perhaps we should be grateful such lunacy still exists.
fluzo escribió:Pero enserio os creeis eso de que os dan la Licencia real por jugar a un videojuego ???
Sera mas bien que os dan una licencia FIA virtual para el juego, algo asi como el carnet "S" de los juegos GT ahora se llamara licencia FIA y solo servira para desbloquear ciertas carreras como se ha hecho casi siempre en la saga GT.
La licencia real que no se si es la misma que la super licencia, no se da simplemente por echar unas carrerillas online con los coleguis, por el amor de dios.... Ademas de que cuesta su dinerillo.
caren103 escribió:fluzo escribió:Pero enserio os creeis eso de que os dan la Licencia real por jugar a un videojuego ???
He editado mi mensaje anterior ponieno extractos de un artículo de Eurogamer muy interesante, en el cual además se da más información al respecto. Lo pongo de nuevo aquí, que sé que con adiciones editando a veces se obvia sin querer.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... -antiquityThe madness of Gran Turismo Sport
Yamauchi's plan to revive motorsport comes to life - but can it save his series from itself?
By Martin Robinson Published 25/05/2016
...
Back in 2014, when Gran Turismo's partnership with the FIA, motorsport's governing body, was announced, Yamauchi's ambitions were no less than reviving the sport itself, arresting its declining popularity and broadening its appeal to an all-new, younger audience. Gran Turismo Sport is the first step towards his new goal, a tie-in with the FIA that goes to astounding lengths. Get to a certain stage within the game, and you're granted your own FIA racing licence. It's a prospect so out there I'm still not entirely sure how it'll work.
"The FIA Gran Turismo digital licence is something we've discussed with automobile clubs and the FIA for the past three years," explains Yamauchi at the event. "A little bit at a time, things have been moving forward, and the world motorsports council a few months ago there was a vote to allow the announcement of this project. It's not something we're rushing into. What the programme actually entails - the licence is only granted once you go through a lot of different subjects that cover your manner on the track, safety issues - and the behaviour of the player is judged on aspects that are required in real life racing. Once you're eligible for that licence, that information will be shared from Gran Turismo to the relevant automobile clubs. From there on, it's up to those clubs to decide how they're going to handle this."
The MSA, the UK's own governing body of motorsport, is onboard, as are 21 other countries at present, and while the practicalities are yet to be clear - and there will always remain the costly issue of actually getting yourself a race car - the prospect's an exciting one.
...
On console, far removed from the hard-edged action of iRacing, there's room for a serious competitive racer, and there's much about Gran Turismo Sport to suggest it could be that game. Its FIA tie-in feels like more than just lip service, too - too many racing games overlook the fundamentals of motorsport and get caught in their own muddle, but in looking to the real thing for inspiration Polyphony has potentially chanced upon something great.
...
For the dedicated, and for those in thrall to motor racing, Gran Turismo Sport's shaping up to be quite the proposition. For the rest? There's not so much, and Sport's particular pursuit looks to come at the expense of its broader appeal. Time was you could rely on Gran Turismo to be a centrepiece for PlayStation, a technical showcase that would sell you on the power of its host hardware. Even taking into account the seven months left of development before the November release of Gran Turismo Sport, it's fair to say that's no longer the case.
The bubble in which Polyphony Digital operates only appears to have hardened in recent years, and by most modern standards Gran Turismo Sport falls short. There's not the splendour and polish of Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 6, the finesse and thoughtfulness found in Kunos Simulazioni's Assetto Corsa or the bark of Sector 3's Race Room Experience. It's not an ugly game - far from it - though it's not quite the generational leap you might have hoped for from a first-party developer of Polyphony's heritage and calibre.
...
The visuals lack polish, and are given to some noticeable stutters when the current cap of 20 cars are all jostling on track, and the sound, while an improvement upon what's gone before, still falls flat when compared to its peers.
...
Still, at least the cars feel more alive, each one displaying a level of personality that's unmatched on console (at least, that is, until Assetto Corsa arrives later this year). Across a couple of hour's play it's hard to pinpoint where Sport improves upon its predecessor...
"What we aim for, in developing the physics engine, is the driver has a feel for the car. Real does not mean difficult, because anyone can drive cars. That's a misunderstanding that's become standard around the world - that real is hard. That's a misconception that we aim to right. In order to achieve that, there's a lot of minute details that have to be worked on. The evolution, it is taking place - and even in the version today, it's not 100 per cent to where we want to take it. Hopefully you can already feel what we're working towards."
...
Gran Turismo's new focus might see it move away from the old pleasure of doing extraordinary things to ordinary cars, but that side of the series is still there if you want it.
There are better driving games out there - ones that look prettier, that sound better and that offer more by way of action. Gran Turismo is no longer the definitive driving simulator, and nor in this Sport incarnation is it the expansive automotive almanac of old. In its advanced years it's become something of an anomaly, an often maddening folly that shouldn't really be possible in this day and age. It might be as frustrating as it is fascinating, but perhaps we should be grateful such lunacy still exists.
On console, far removed from the hard-edged action of iRacing, there's room for a serious competitive racer, and there's much about Gran Turismo Sport to suggest it could be that game.
... ![[noop]](/images/smilies/net_thumbsdown.gif "Nop")
