[Hilo Oficial] Final Fantasy XIII (#2)

sith23 escribió:

forekandebisi escribió:En un principio los eran exclusivos...
Pues a mi no me sorprende que tenga esa calidad puesto que los exclusivos de PS3 SIEMPRE seran mejores que un port de mierda de la 360.

Lo que has dicho, con todo el respeto, lo encuentro una tontería, es cómo decir que los exclusivos de Xbox 360 siempre serán mejores que un port para PS3 (mira sino lo que hicieron los de 2K con unas de sus obras magna, Bioshock se ve MUCHO MEJOR en Xbox 360 que en PS3 y eso que en PS3 ha salido casi un año más tarde, pero eso sí, era un port hecho con algo de prisa creo).
Perdón por la parrafada pero con los Final Fantasy me entra la inspiración.
Offtopic: si teneis oportunidad, jugad al Bioshock, es igual de sublime en todas las consolas.
Saludos!

KurosakiJim escribió:

sith23 escribió:

forekandebisi escribió:En un principio los eran exclusivos...
Pues a mi no me sorprende que tenga esa calidad puesto que los exclusivos de PS3 SIEMPRE seran mejores que un port de mierda de la 360.

Lo que has dicho, con todo el respeto, lo encuentro una tontería, es cómo decir que los exclusivos de Xbox 360 siempre serán mejores que un port para PS3 (mira sino lo que hicieron los de 2K con unas de sus obras magna, Bioshock se ve MUCHO MEJOR en Xbox 360 que en PS3 y eso que en PS3 ha salido casi un año más tarde, pero eso sí, era un port hecho con algo de prisa creo).
Perdón por la parrafada pero con los Final Fantasy me entra la inspiración.
Offtopic: si teneis oportunidad, jugad al Bioshock, es igual de sublime en todas las consolas.
Saludos!

Pues yo estoy de acuerdo con eso. Un juego que se ha programado en exclusiva para una consola, sea 360 o ps3 sera bastante mejor que su respectivo port para otra plataforma.

Eso no es una tonteria, es una realidad. Tu mismo das la razon con el ejemplo que pones, Bioshock.

songoku1910 escribió:A mi lo unico que me importa. Es que no lo capen por falta de Espacio. Pero alparecer ya lo estan capando.

songoku1910 escribió:A mi lo unico que me importa. Es que no lo capen por falta de Espacio. Pero alparecer ya lo estan capando.

carmelero escribió:¿Y como sabes que lo estan capando, cuando lo unico que se ha visto del juego son unos videos con fragmentos sacados de el ultimo video que han sacado y algo de informacion?
A veces sois un poco exagerados.
Si necesitan mas espacio, pues que utilizen mas DVD como han hecho otras compañias e incluso ellos mismos con el The Last Remnant.

Si las 2 versiones del juego (PS3/360) tienen la misma calidad grafica y salen por las mismas fechas, seguramente me compraré la version de PS3, porque la tengo mas huérfana de titulos. Pero bueno de aqui a que salga el juego todavia debe llover mucho.

carmelero escribió:Parece que la chica pelijorra será el tipico personaje alegre del grupo.

Wghos7 escribió:

carmelero escribió:Parece que la chica pelijorra será el tipico personaje alegre del grupo.

Me recuerda un poco a Selphie, pobrecilla qué rabia me daba

Hibiki-naruto escribió:La Scan del Combate en Grande

ReDLaN escribió:Espero k este juego este a la altura del X

karlitos escribió:

ReDLaN escribió:Espero k este juego este a la altura del X

Recemos todos los dias hasta su salida por que así sea amigo

No en serio, después de los angeles de charlie X-2, del XI que era online y del XII que me pareció una petraña de las gordas gracias a su sistema de combate y a los personajes mas sosos y apáticos y con menos magia para mi gusto de toda la saga, ya toca un FF en condiciones. Aplíquense al cuento señores de KONAMI

karlitos escribió:

ReDLaN escribió:Espero k este juego este a la altura del X

Recemos todos los dias hasta su salida por que así sea amigo

No en serio, después de los angeles de charlie X-2, del XI que era online y del XII que me pareció una petraña de las gordas gracias a su sistema de combate y a los personajes mas sosos y apáticos y con menos magia para mi gusto de toda la saga, ya toca un FF en condiciones. Aplíquense al cuento señores de KONAMI

karlitos escribió:

ReDLaN escribió:Aplíquense al cuento señores de KONAMI

Square-Enix's annual attendance to Jump Festa today is just as predictable as every year. They've brought along their lovable Closed Mega Theater and in it they're showing a brand new Final Fantasy XIII trailer in private. We'll be relying on the scattered trailer descriptions as usual to find out what happened.

Apparently this trailer stars a new male character who has a "shota" like nature. We'll be expecting another feminine character as per usual. He might have an unusual way of speaking.
There is supposed to have been new never seen before battle footage with Snow fighting by kicking and punching. They're defending the Pigtails girl. Lightning fights using a mix of melee and shooting attacks.
They summon Shiva during the battle shown. She freezes them using Ice magic and then runs them over in her motorcycle form.
Another new character seems to have been shown in the trailer. It's apparently a young Asian woman.
The combat is seamless in the trailer. Imagine running around an FFXII worldmap but the camera and character locking on when in an encounter like FFX.
Lightning is planning a prison break to free the Pigtails girl. Snow is the one leading the attack. Lightning is apparently in a straight jacket which leads into the original train footage on the prison train back in 2006.
Snow is the one wanting to get back the Pigtails girl but Lightning says she has already been captured by the fal-Cie. She hits Snow and says "You didn't protect her! did you!" to which Snow replies "Therefore I came to help".
The battle taking place in the trailer is really fast paced, more so than any other Final Fantasy game.
Snow and Lightning frees the Pigtails girl who's being taken away by guards. Snow gives her a machine gun and she introduces herself as "Vanilla" (Almost 100% confirmed to be her name now).
Every character in the trailer is voiced.

Snow and Lightning frees the Pigtails girl who's being taken away by guards. Snow gives her a machine gun and she introduces herself as "Vanilla"

uNkNowN_2.0 escribió:hmmmmm



Se llama 'Vainilla'? xD

HaswaLL escribió:Pero no se llamaba "Sera"

uNkNowN_2.0 escribió:

HaswaLL escribió:Pero no se llamaba "Sera"

Al parecer Sera es el nombre de su raza/clan

uNkNowN_2.0 escribió:

Apparently this trailer stars a new male character who has a "shota" like nature. We'll be expecting another feminine character as per usual. He might have an unusual way of speaking.
There is supposed to have been new never seen before battle footage with Snow fighting by kicking and punching. They're defending the Pigtails girl. Lightning fights using a mix of melee and shooting attacks.
They summon Shiva during the battle shown. She freezes them using Ice magic and then runs them over in her motorcycle form.
Another new character seems to have been shown in the trailer. It's apparently a young Asian woman.
The combat is seamless in the trailer. Imagine running around an FFXII worldmap but the camera and character locking on when in an encounter like FFX.
Lightning is planning a prison break to free the Pigtails girl. Snow is the one leading the attack. Lightning is apparently in a straight jacket which leads into the original train footage on the prison train back in 2006.
Snow is the one wanting to get back the Pigtails girl but Lightning says she has already been captured by the fal-Cie. She hits Snow and says "You didn't protect her! did you!" to which Snow replies "Therefore I came to help".
The battle taking place in the trailer is really fast paced, more so than any other Final Fantasy game.
Snow and Lightning frees the Pigtails girl who's being taken away by guards. Snow gives her a machine gun and she introduces herself as "Vanilla" (Almost 100% confirmed to be her name now).
Every character in the trailer is voiced.

Hibiki-naruto escribió:
Gracias por las Scans uNkNowN_2.0.

ai ya vemos el Gameplay... una cosa, golpeamos al enemigos y entramos en la lucha pero ¿ en tiempo real o Transicion? me explico, en tiempo real en el mismo lugar o con Transicion, es decir que nos lleve a un mapa de Combate como los FF.

Hamza escribió:

Hibiki-naruto escribió:
Gracias por las Scans uNkNowN_2.0.

ai ya vemos el Gameplay... una cosa, golpeamos al enemigos y entramos en la lucha pero ¿ en tiempo real o Transicion? me explico, en tiempo real en el mismo lugar o con Transicion, es decir que nos lleve a un mapa de Combate como los FF.

La gracia seria en tiempo real, pero creo que seria un poco molesto por los elementos que pueda tener el escenario, así que lo mas seguro es que tengamos transición

The combat is seamless in the trailer. Imagine running around an FFXII worldmap but the camera and character locking on when in an encounter like FFX.

Cloud01 escribió:Si he entendido bien los combates ocurren en el sitio como FFXII peor la perspectiva de este, es de estilo clásico como FFX.
Ese decir avanzo entro en la zona de alerta del enemigo y se pone la pantalla en modo combate sin transiciones y ahí se pueden dar los comandos en una especie de hibrido entre turnos y tiempo real donde se pueden encadenar ataques en un tiempo límite, o al menos esa sensación me dan las capturas.

Hibiki-naruto escribió:Sacado de LAPS3.com

*En el trailer se ven escenas nunca vistas con un combate en la nieve
*Lightning usa en el combate una mezcla de patadas, armas y puñetazos en acción frenética
*Durante el combate se ve como se invoca a Shiva, una de las invocaciones que habrá en el juego
*Ella congela todo por donde pasa
*Se ve otro personaje femenino, aparentemente asiática
*Desvelan el sistema de combate: lo describen como" Imagina que estas en un mapa del Final Fantasy XII pero parecido al estilo de combate de Final Fantasy X"
*Mas tarde se ve a Lightning planeando como asaltar un tren, concretamente el que vimos en el primer trailer
*El chico que vimos en el trailer se llama Snow y su pistola de fuego "Vanilla" (100% confirmado)
*El sistema de combate es el más interactivo que hemos visto nunca, mas que ningún Final Fantasy con un montón de opciones.
*La cámara en los combates será del estilo FFX
*Sobre el asalto al tren, lo planean para liberar a una chica que no sabemos quien es todavía
*Todos los personajes ya cuentan con voz propia.

As for the new characters..

I would not call the big new male character's hairstyle an afro, but his hair does look like somebody put a tube over his head and then his scalp exploded, permanently frying his hair up in fine DBZ fashion. It's not long and ridiculously spiky, though. Just... exploded. His hair is VERY orange, and he either has it shaved into thin zig zag shave patterns on the sides of his head or he has a lot of tiny zig zagging braids there. He appears to be wearing a frayed or fur trimmed blue vest and is pretty clearly black. He is wearing off-white to khaki colored long shorts with simple gold patterns on them. He also has a silver necklace with a rectangular, flat silver pendant, wide sides horizontal. He's present mostly in the prison break scenes, helping Snow and the other new male and female characters, although he is the only character I was able to identify for sure on the train with Lightning before she broke out.

As for the younger new male, the first thing that came to my mind upon seeing him was Gippal, probably because of his blond hair and main colors pink and black outfit. He wears goggle-like headgear on his forehead. He does not look 'shota' to me, but he does look young compared to Lightning, Snow and big black new dude. He is blond. He looks to be older than pigtails girl by a couple years. He does talk with an affect. For people who know some Japanese, he tacks 'sska' onto the end of 'ja nai ka' questions to make 'ja nai sska' and 'ja nai ssu'. I don't know exactly the real life implications of the affect, whether its regional, age or culture, but it does exist in real Japanese speech. He seems to often have complaints about situations and courses of action, but help out regardless.

New female character reminds me of Yuffie a little, but her hair is at least shoulder length and appears to be tied back. She does not appear to be very patient. She has a purplish butterfly tattoo visible on her shoulder from the back. I think it's her right shoulder. Her outfit's colors are yellow, white and purple. She is wearing a very short, ruffled layered yellow skirt. She shows considerable amounts of skin compared to Lightning and Vanille. She's also wearing something like knee high fishnet socks. I believe she is shown using a gun.

As for what's happening in the actual trailer, there seems to be two separate parts being told at the same time.

First, there is Lightning rescuing Oerba Dia Vanille on a train with the three new characters and Snow. This scene takes place in the very green colored area with all the train tracks suspended in the air, visible in this image.

I'm not sure about the trailers' order of shown events, as both covered similar events while including different scenes, but the story follows this way..

Lightning and the new black character are on the prisoners' train, dressed in the same white outfits we have seen Oerba Dia Vanille wear when she is captured. They are sitting with several other prisoners. All of them are restrained by some kind of force from the wrist areas of the clothes they are wearing. They talk quietly and briefly to each other, and suddenly the train hits what appears to be some kind of force field barricade set up on its tracks, and begins to run out of control. Lightning jumps out to attack and crushes a remote control-like device with her foot, releasing all the prisoners from their hand bindings. Lightning waves her hand past her hip and begins to generate what looks like an electrical field around herself but appears to be connected to her gravity based abilities.

The large dragon-like flying beasts we have seen before attack the out of control train, seemingly in an attempt to stop Lightning from hijacking it. She shoots at them from the train with a large bazooka-like gun. Eventually they knock the train off its tracks.

The fighting ends up outside, where all the other new characters plus Snow join in. Snow breaks a speaker that seems to be droning out commands from the Holy Government in his entrance scene. Lightning and company have a lot of help in the form of what appears to be a small rebel force, armed with what appear to be standard, bullet-firing guns of fair power. Some of the train rails have been destroyed by the fighting, and the rebels assisting Lightning and company are entrenched in the rubble.

The people who escaped the train when Lightning broke out want to help them fight, and eventually Snow consents to letting them figh to. Among the escapees is Oerba Dia Vanille, who Snow gives a gun to. She takes it, pretends to aim it at an enemy, and says "Bang!"

The fighting seems to get worse, and a heavily armored enemy airship arrives. It blows away a good portion of the resisting fighters with one cannon blast, and Snow is knocked off the train rail while attempting to rescue another fighter and falls from view.

The scene changes to Lightning on a platform with a character who does not appear to be a main playable character by lack of remarkable clothing (His name is possibly Sazzu by the menus). The other character is a male in very plain clothing, although he appears to follow her around for some time as she moves and fights, possibly a guide character.

Lots of fight scenes are strung together, seemingly more for the purpose of showing off the battle menues than carrying the story forward, as eventually it breaks off to the second main storyline focus area: Lightning, Snow and Vanille in the frozen-looking lake area.

There are scenes of them fighting both monsters and soldiers there, and at one point Snow summons Shiva and uses her in battle to attack. Among his menus when using Shiva are attacks called "Diamond Dust" and "Engine". The attack he performs causes damage in many separate increments. In a scene we've seen in magazine scans, Vanille mentions she has seen "that" before, she thinks, although what "it" is is unclear.

Depending on which trailer you're watching, a dialogue about someone named Sera plays either over a scene near the battle at the train tracks area or in lip synch between Lightning and Snow in the frozen lake area, where Snow mentions Sera and Lightning becomes angry at him for not saving Sera, claiming it was his fault that whatever happened to her happened. Snow seems to believe that he can still save her, but Lightning thinks nothing can be done about it anymore. She hits him twice, and both appear to be near tears. He stops her with something he says about what he thinks he can do. (I believe she asks "What is it you think you can do, huh?" in regards to how to save Sera and he replies "Anything!")The blue golem-like creatures are present during some of the voice over conversation. It seems they are somehow connected to what happened to Sera. (Sorry, I'm fairly unsure about the goings on outside the train fighting scenes).

Throughout the train section of the trailers, many, many charactes are shown, most of whom appear to be rebel fighters and escapees from the train, but I've only described in detail the ones who have been seen in gameplay combat or who have unique clothing.

At some point in time (it's shown at the beginning of a trailer, but I can't pin it down chronologically), Vanille is shown standing outside in her white hooded outfit in the green-lit train area, and she mentions the "beginning of the end of the world."

The large green creature/statue like object in the first linked image also features quite prominently in the trailer, but I'm not sure what it is or what it means. In the version where talk of Sera is dubbed over the train scenes, it appears quite often while the conversation plays.