Pro Evolution Soccer 2015

kusanagi escribió:

kurosakicarlos escribió:Gracias madridista, impresiones algo más positivas. En 11 días salimos de dudas.

q pasa en 11 días???

renodo escribió:En general las impresiones son bastante prometedoras.

Esta ultima es de una version algo mas avanzada, he creido entender no?

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

dead007 escribió:

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

También hay amargados que sólo con leer las siglas PES ya les salen granos y sarpullidos.

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

dead007 escribió:

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

También hay amargados que sólo con leer las siglas PES ya les salen granos y sarpullidos.

V-21 escribió:Hola a todos no me apeleeis por esta pregunta jeje el pes tiene el modo cromos como el ultimate en fifa? Gracias de antemano

alvicio escribió:

dead007 escribió:

alvicio escribió:Y luego les llaman fanboys y lloran.....

También hay amargados que sólo con leer las siglas PES ya les salen granos y sarpullidos.

También los hay, si.....
por suerte yo no soy de esos.....

keverson303 escribió:+1 aparte de su firma todo pro de fifa 13 , viene a un post de la competencia a no decir nada de nada.
Si esa es su aportación .... como se dice en mi tierra GUARDARME UN CACHORRO.

alvicio escribió:

keverson303 escribió:+1 aparte de su firma todo pro de fifa 13 , viene a un post de la competencia a no decir nada de nada.
Si esa es su aportación .... como se dice en mi tierra GUARDARME UN CACHORRO.

Listo, la firma es por messi no por fifa, si pudiera le quitaria lo de fifa, ya me puedes reportar lo que quieras no he faltado a nadie solo he puesto un comentario porque es de risa las cosas que se leen sin saber nada de un juego, catalogarlo de "el mejor".....
No veas como saltan los perros de presa en este hilo
y por si teneis dudas, ir a ver mis comentarios a los hilos de fifa, ya veréis que fanboy soy de fifa.......

Gusy4 escribió:Señores, PES 2015 y su cambio temporal (gráfico) incorporado es brutal.
Os va a sorprender...

by Richmond » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:01 pm

Long French impression translated by Google. Hard to read but lots of details.


Hello everyone,

I was testing the beast last Friday and now tell you my felt on this new album.

CAUTION IS LONG. Do not hesitate to come back if you're too lazy to read. : CABG:

I said that I participated in 3h test and casi every match I did was against real people. I do not speak here of the IA.

I will deal with what seems to me worth noting. I do not treat either of which did not change (such as dribbling system for example).

My opinion will be presented as follows:

In general play

1 - The Guardians
2 - Arbitration
3 - Passes
4 - Controls
5 - Coup Franc
6 - Fatigue players


Phase offensive

7 - Assists
8 - Shots
9 - Teammates
10 - Acceleration

Phase defensive

11 - The defense in general
12 - The Duel AC vs DC

Menus training

13 - Training
14 - The new tactical menus

Conclusion.

-------------------------------------------

In general play


1 - The Guardians

I will not discuss here the bugs and profanity in the behavior of the guards, too recess for Konami leaves the game as well (confirmed by this manager)
I'm going to talk about something that jumped out at me from my first match on the beast.

ATTITUDE OF GUARDS CUSTOM

What I mean by personal attitude, it's just that the behavior of the guard in the game is the same as true. Never differences guards will not know as much important in the game (especially LMO!).
Buffon eg clearances are not part of its qualities, in part by his lack of punching power. It is not very comfortable at home in the air.
Well these "details" are obvious on the screen.
First, at such centers, Buffon is very often on the line. There is relatively little "reassure" defend it. Second clearances Buffon are very soft. For example using the manual release (L2 + button Long Pass), the ball goes very often ... bell! For arriving a ball that is not even the half of the field!


If these features are impressive, it is because the other guard this demo, alias De Gea is another story. Spanish is a typical premier league goalkeeper. The air does not scare him or even distant releases. And it shows.

On centers, but especially on corners (developed later) De Gea no chance for opposing forwards. With a firm hand he return the balloons on the sides (not the center to the surface for a missile we come clean the window ^ ^). For clearances, it is a joy. Unlike Buffon, the release is a very manual missile. Well used and in situations conducive, it is a true caviar passes Neuer we can achieve a pure Assist! : cute:


2 - Arbitration

a) The severity

Unlike a number of other tests, I have absolutely no evidence of arbitration severity! Any or more 1 or 2 yellow cards in the game! It will not take recess cast headlong into your slide tackles not mastered (as someone with whom I played, which has many user tackles to just check if the referee was harsh ... nay, I have found no injustice, no penalty stolen, no CF to 20 meters unfair after a forceful intervention).
Note that I do not mean that the referee has played soft improperly, it is very good and knows how to show red when needed.

Annoying item arrived after the last day of a 2014 systematic errors simply by "touching" an opponent without even pressing a button conch. Again, no whistle useless man in yellow.

I did not test against by the famous challenge of haters in position last defender.


b) The advantage rule

A well boring appearance on PES 2014 is that there was never any advantage, whether for conventional or offside foul.
On the 2013, when a player was offside could select another player who was not and play quietly. 2014 on the cursor was often stuck on the offside player without the possibility of anything.
And often, when we came to realize a beautiful deep pass, another one of our players, its illegal position, drew the flag raising ... Not cool.
And did not yell at death whereas being alone with the ball to go shoot the guard, or even downright having a goal, the action was set to 0 for an AI vs. AI fault 20 meters behind!

Well this has been corrected, when there is flagrant foul but the ball remains in our possession, no whistle. For offside, I saw it on a share, a center for my AC too late was not booed because DC has finally got back and returned later.

What allow the game does not stop for anything.


3 - Passes

Passes not at all unmanned to the feet of our teammates. The ball is freer and more critical gauge.

Do not expect change wing fully pressing the button long pass, the ball will target key and a single player race recipient can save the ball (uncontrolled head could start against opponent)

It will therefore monitor its long passes even shorter distance because the ball to the feet of an average player will quickly tend not to reach their destination.

Short passes are however more accurate (it will be tested with lower than those available in this demo players). The forward pass and the centers will be discussed later.

My test was setting 3/4 passes. I have not tried lower because it was already satisfactory way.


4 - Controls

Again, the importance of the player is striking. Not bad ball was lost by a missed check, but never for the big players (Van Persie, Rooney, Tevez ...).
Except for a small error in English while I went to the point, he controlled the heel ... Annoying ...: hap:

5 - Coup Franc

During a match, CF distance (45 m) my opponent try to see. Sometimes the ball well repiquait toward goals, and my Buffon had all the trouble to remove it. It was immediately told (my opponent) that y'avait p'tete way! It has not failed. CF after it retries and Buffon in goals ... slap!

Many shot goes well above but with a CR7 or Zlatan commands, it can hurt! : death:

6 - Fatigue players

Why treat fatigue of the players? Because it will be of crucial importance, far more than previously!

From the 75th minute, players are cooked. The game becomes very rough, players can not run properly, can no longer passes very well and the shooting away goals.
Even Vidal, yet very tough, had its very low gauge. Completely vacuum gauge for many others.

Replacements, particularly in defense (DC unable to catch anyone) are more decisive than in 2014.


permalink
Nolansama View profile Nolansama
Posted August 3, 2014 at 6:24:26 p.m. Tell a director
Phase offensive

7 - Assists

Perhaps the topic that outperforms others. The famous "Triangle" or "L1 Triangle."
Well as you may have read, it is not at all as easy and determining that in 2014. Almost.

The forward pass itself has changed. With good distributors is a great battle between the attacker and the defender fires.

The defense is much more likely to catch the ball or obstruct the attacker. We see for example the DC physically come on even if the AC does not have the ball to prevent any dangerous situation.

But the defense is not an impenetrable wall either. For example, I managed Kagawa THE perfect pass to Van Persie in depth. Chiellini could simply accompany helplessly. But this is rare in a game.
Another time the ball was going the same way, but the defense was finally able to recover.
Just a detail, which makes it not possible abuse, even with Andrea Pirlo and harassment Triangle. : Yes I am:

8 - Shots

Conventional shots are not normal. Double square, lobbed shot wound or flick, none seem "cheated" or gradient as late in the season with 2014.
Manual fire have not changed, horrible when you do not want to put, when a devastating habit.

Special mention for the heads. Rather they are framed (never needed to use the heads stitched) and goes much easier. Warning, it is far from "head center" Fifa but it changes in the right direction compared to 2014.


9 - Teammates

On the players around us, they throw good calls, sometimes very good, and everywhere before us. It is found only very few unresolved in the last 40 meters. A feast for the eyes. : play:


10 - The Accelerations

Ah the famous defenders of 2014 caught up with us constantly ... From ancient history!

When launched, a good shot 2x R1 and the player pushes the ball then speeds without the opponent can not catch up immediately.
The same for deep passes. A fast player will be able to go to the goals. If tried the defender has not embarrassed enough before course.

A Note to centers in the 2014 offensive players sprinted then magically opponents returned and gave off the ball.
This time attackers and defenders run together and it will be the sharper it will be decided.
I used "live" and not "fast" because even a slower defender but with good reflexes can take it with her foot.


Phase defensive

11 - The Defense General

In general terms, therefore, the defense is very solid.
As mentioned above, the deep passes are almost always will not be as devastating as a habit.

In addition, we may remember that in 2014 the defense, no matter how low we have put in the parameters was consistently high when was offensive phase. What to take on against against.
This time the defense is in place and not higher.

I always use the defensive line with arrows on the 2014 but I hardly had to do during the tests (against someone who tested the deep passes galore).

Caution still training, whether their own or that of the opponent. (Detailed below)

12 - The Clash vs AC DC

Most of the PES is that is not always losing at defensive tackle.
When the AC is running, a good shot of R3 slows down very well see the stop completely without the referee uses his whistle. : ok:
It will be against by attention Corner for air power players will determine not to take headed goals.


Menus training

13 - Training

More than ever, the choice of the training will be crucial in this game.
United taking 4-3-3 and against fast, we find this domination of the opposing half of the field 60-65% of the game without showing completely.

However after this percentage of the match Juventus against, possessed immense boulevards.
A loose ball and Tevez / Llorente found the median line against DC Juve.
Suffice to say that with a good substitute offensive, acceleration and this will be the duel against the keeper.
A good defensive tactic in reserve will save us a game. ))


14 - The New Menu tactics

I unfortunately did not think to write them down, but the training menu has completely changed and is much more comprehensive.
6 or 7 menus are available instead of 1,2 and 3 of tactics 2014.
In the menu used to select against fast, possession ... we can note the presence of new options such as "Wide" or "Center" Game expands or centered game. "Short Pass" or "Long Pass" game short passes or longer passes.

I also remember seeing a space to store a tactical defensive role. Short enough honed to perfection our tactical grip on the game.



Conclusion:

This PES looks excellent, I really enjoyed this demo.
The defense did not hole without curb the attacks.
I have not talked about the graphics because that side Konami knows how. The faces are gorgeous but there were only 22 after all.

Many aspects could come tarnish the game (How will the LMO 2015?) Except dumpling Konamiesque But, I am confident to pass the PS4 for this game looks great!

That's all for me! : noel:

Polter2k escribió:Una detallada traducción de un frances de los que están probando la beta de Manchester aun en Francia

La dejo por lo detallada y completa para el que quiera traducirla:

by Richmond » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:01 pm

Long French impression translated by Google. Hard to read but lots of details.


Hello everyone,

I was testing the beast last Friday and now tell you my felt on this new album.

CAUTION IS LONG. Do not hesitate to come back if you're too lazy to read. : CABG:

I said that I participated in 3h test and casi every match I did was against real people. I do not speak here of the IA.

I will deal with what seems to me worth noting. I do not treat either of which did not change (such as dribbling system for example).

My opinion will be presented as follows:

In general play

1 - The Guardians
2 - Arbitration
3 - Passes
4 - Controls
5 - Coup Franc
6 - Fatigue players


Phase offensive

7 - Assists
8 - Shots
9 - Teammates
10 - Acceleration

Phase defensive

11 - The defense in general
12 - The Duel AC vs DC

Menus training

13 - Training
14 - The new tactical menus

Conclusion.

-------------------------------------------

In general play


1 - The Guardians

I will not discuss here the bugs and profanity in the behavior of the guards, too recess for Konami leaves the game as well (confirmed by this manager)
I'm going to talk about something that jumped out at me from my first match on the beast.

ATTITUDE OF GUARDS CUSTOM

What I mean by personal attitude, it's just that the behavior of the guard in the game is the same as true. Never differences guards will not know as much important in the game (especially LMO!).
Buffon eg clearances are not part of its qualities, in part by his lack of punching power. It is not very comfortable at home in the air.
Well these "details" are obvious on the screen.
First, at such centers, Buffon is very often on the line. There is relatively little "reassure" defend it. Second clearances Buffon are very soft. For example using the manual release (L2 + button Long Pass), the ball goes very often ... bell! For arriving a ball that is not even the half of the field!


If these features are impressive, it is because the other guard this demo, alias De Gea is another story. Spanish is a typical premier league goalkeeper. The air does not scare him or even distant releases. And it shows.

On centers, but especially on corners (developed later) De Gea no chance for opposing forwards. With a firm hand he return the balloons on the sides (not the center to the surface for a missile we come clean the window ^ ^). For clearances, it is a joy. Unlike Buffon, the release is a very manual missile. Well used and in situations conducive, it is a true caviar passes Neuer we can achieve a pure Assist! : cute:


2 - Arbitration

a) The severity

Unlike a number of other tests, I have absolutely no evidence of arbitration severity! Any or more 1 or 2 yellow cards in the game! It will not take recess cast headlong into your slide tackles not mastered (as someone with whom I played, which has many user tackles to just check if the referee was harsh ... nay, I have found no injustice, no penalty stolen, no CF to 20 meters unfair after a forceful intervention).
Note that I do not mean that the referee has played soft improperly, it is very good and knows how to show red when needed.

Annoying item arrived after the last day of a 2014 systematic errors simply by "touching" an opponent without even pressing a button conch. Again, no whistle useless man in yellow.

I did not test against by the famous challenge of haters in position last defender.


b) The advantage rule

A well boring appearance on PES 2014 is that there was never any advantage, whether for conventional or offside foul.
On the 2013, when a player was offside could select another player who was not and play quietly. 2014 on the cursor was often stuck on the offside player without the possibility of anything.
And often, when we came to realize a beautiful deep pass, another one of our players, its illegal position, drew the flag raising ... Not cool.
And did not yell at death whereas being alone with the ball to go shoot the guard, or even downright having a goal, the action was set to 0 for an AI vs. AI fault 20 meters behind!

Well this has been corrected, when there is flagrant foul but the ball remains in our possession, no whistle. For offside, I saw it on a share, a center for my AC too late was not booed because DC has finally got back and returned later.

What allow the game does not stop for anything.


3 - Passes

Passes not at all unmanned to the feet of our teammates. The ball is freer and more critical gauge.

Do not expect change wing fully pressing the button long pass, the ball will target key and a single player race recipient can save the ball (uncontrolled head could start against opponent)

It will therefore monitor its long passes even shorter distance because the ball to the feet of an average player will quickly tend not to reach their destination.

Short passes are however more accurate (it will be tested with lower than those available in this demo players). The forward pass and the centers will be discussed later.

My test was setting 3/4 passes. I have not tried lower because it was already satisfactory way.


4 - Controls

Again, the importance of the player is striking. Not bad ball was lost by a missed check, but never for the big players (Van Persie, Rooney, Tevez ...).
Except for a small error in English while I went to the point, he controlled the heel ... Annoying ...: hap:

5 - Coup Franc

During a match, CF distance (45 m) my opponent try to see. Sometimes the ball well repiquait toward goals, and my Buffon had all the trouble to remove it. It was immediately told (my opponent) that y'avait p'tete way! It has not failed. CF after it retries and Buffon in goals ... slap!

Many shot goes well above but with a CR7 or Zlatan commands, it can hurt! : death:

6 - Fatigue players

Why treat fatigue of the players? Because it will be of crucial importance, far more than previously!

From the 75th minute, players are cooked. The game becomes very rough, players can not run properly, can no longer passes very well and the shooting away goals.
Even Vidal, yet very tough, had its very low gauge. Completely vacuum gauge for many others.

Replacements, particularly in defense (DC unable to catch anyone) are more decisive than in 2014.


permalink
Nolansama View profile Nolansama
Posted August 3, 2014 at 6:24:26 p.m. Tell a director
Phase offensive

7 - Assists

Perhaps the topic that outperforms others. The famous "Triangle" or "L1 Triangle."
Well as you may have read, it is not at all as easy and determining that in 2014. Almost.

The forward pass itself has changed. With good distributors is a great battle between the attacker and the defender fires.

The defense is much more likely to catch the ball or obstruct the attacker. We see for example the DC physically come on even if the AC does not have the ball to prevent any dangerous situation.

But the defense is not an impenetrable wall either. For example, I managed Kagawa THE perfect pass to Van Persie in depth. Chiellini could simply accompany helplessly. But this is rare in a game.
Another time the ball was going the same way, but the defense was finally able to recover.
Just a detail, which makes it not possible abuse, even with Andrea Pirlo and harassment Triangle. : Yes I am:

8 - Shots

Conventional shots are not normal. Double square, lobbed shot wound or flick, none seem "cheated" or gradient as late in the season with 2014.
Manual fire have not changed, horrible when you do not want to put, when a devastating habit.

Special mention for the heads. Rather they are framed (never needed to use the heads stitched) and goes much easier. Warning, it is far from "head center" Fifa but it changes in the right direction compared to 2014.


9 - Teammates

On the players around us, they throw good calls, sometimes very good, and everywhere before us. It is found only very few unresolved in the last 40 meters. A feast for the eyes. : play:


10 - The Accelerations

Ah the famous defenders of 2014 caught up with us constantly ... From ancient history!

When launched, a good shot 2x R1 and the player pushes the ball then speeds without the opponent can not catch up immediately.
The same for deep passes. A fast player will be able to go to the goals. If tried the defender has not embarrassed enough before course.

A Note to centers in the 2014 offensive players sprinted then magically opponents returned and gave off the ball.
This time attackers and defenders run together and it will be the sharper it will be decided.
I used "live" and not "fast" because even a slower defender but with good reflexes can take it with her foot.


Phase defensive

11 - The Defense General

In general terms, therefore, the defense is very solid.
As mentioned above, the deep passes are almost always will not be as devastating as a habit.

In addition, we may remember that in 2014 the defense, no matter how low we have put in the parameters was consistently high when was offensive phase. What to take on against against.
This time the defense is in place and not higher.

I always use the defensive line with arrows on the 2014 but I hardly had to do during the tests (against someone who tested the deep passes galore).

Caution still training, whether their own or that of the opponent. (Detailed below)

12 - The Clash vs AC DC

Most of the PES is that is not always losing at defensive tackle.
When the AC is running, a good shot of R3 slows down very well see the stop completely without the referee uses his whistle. : ok:
It will be against by attention Corner for air power players will determine not to take headed goals.


Menus training

13 - Training

More than ever, the choice of the training will be crucial in this game.
United taking 4-3-3 and against fast, we find this domination of the opposing half of the field 60-65% of the game without showing completely.

However after this percentage of the match Juventus against, possessed immense boulevards.
A loose ball and Tevez / Llorente found the median line against DC Juve.
Suffice to say that with a good substitute offensive, acceleration and this will be the duel against the keeper.
A good defensive tactic in reserve will save us a game. ))


14 - The New Menu tactics

I unfortunately did not think to write them down, but the training menu has completely changed and is much more comprehensive.
6 or 7 menus are available instead of 1,2 and 3 of tactics 2014.
In the menu used to select against fast, possession ... we can note the presence of new options such as "Wide" or "Center" Game expands or centered game. "Short Pass" or "Long Pass" game short passes or longer passes.

I also remember seeing a space to store a tactical defensive role. Short enough honed to perfection our tactical grip on the game.



Conclusion:

This PES looks excellent, I really enjoyed this demo.
The defense did not hole without curb the attacks.
I have not talked about the graphics because that side Konami knows how. The faces are gorgeous but there were only 22 after all.

Many aspects could come tarnish the game (How will the LMO 2015?) Except dumpling Konamiesque But, I am confident to pass the PS4 for this game looks great!

That's all for me! : noel:

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Polter2k escribió:Una detallada traducción de un frances de los que están probando la beta de Manchester aun en Francia

La dejo por lo detallada y completa para el que quiera traducirla:

by Richmond » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:01 pm

Long French impression translated by Google. Hard to read but lots of details.


Hello everyone,

I was testing the beast last Friday and now tell you my felt on this new album.

CAUTION IS LONG. Do not hesitate to come back if you're too lazy to read. : CABG:

I said that I participated in 3h test and casi every match I did was against real people. I do not speak here of the IA.

I will deal with what seems to me worth noting. I do not treat either of which did not change (such as dribbling system for example).

My opinion will be presented as follows:

In general play

1 - The Guardians
2 - Arbitration
3 - Passes
4 - Controls
5 - Coup Franc
6 - Fatigue players


Phase offensive

7 - Assists
8 - Shots
9 - Teammates
10 - Acceleration

Phase defensive

11 - The defense in general
12 - The Duel AC vs DC

Menus training

13 - Training
14 - The new tactical menus

Conclusion.

-------------------------------------------

In general play


1 - The Guardians

I will not discuss here the bugs and profanity in the behavior of the guards, too recess for Konami leaves the game as well (confirmed by this manager)
I'm going to talk about something that jumped out at me from my first match on the beast.

ATTITUDE OF GUARDS CUSTOM

What I mean by personal attitude, it's just that the behavior of the guard in the game is the same as true. Never differences guards will not know as much important in the game (especially LMO!).
Buffon eg clearances are not part of its qualities, in part by his lack of punching power. It is not very comfortable at home in the air.
Well these "details" are obvious on the screen.
First, at such centers, Buffon is very often on the line. There is relatively little "reassure" defend it. Second clearances Buffon are very soft. For example using the manual release (L2 + button Long Pass), the ball goes very often ... bell! For arriving a ball that is not even the half of the field!


If these features are impressive, it is because the other guard this demo, alias De Gea is another story. Spanish is a typical premier league goalkeeper. The air does not scare him or even distant releases. And it shows.

On centers, but especially on corners (developed later) De Gea no chance for opposing forwards. With a firm hand he return the balloons on the sides (not the center to the surface for a missile we come clean the window ^ ^). For clearances, it is a joy. Unlike Buffon, the release is a very manual missile. Well used and in situations conducive, it is a true caviar passes Neuer we can achieve a pure Assist! : cute:


2 - Arbitration

a) The severity

Unlike a number of other tests, I have absolutely no evidence of arbitration severity! Any or more 1 or 2 yellow cards in the game! It will not take recess cast headlong into your slide tackles not mastered (as someone with whom I played, which has many user tackles to just check if the referee was harsh ... nay, I have found no injustice, no penalty stolen, no CF to 20 meters unfair after a forceful intervention).
Note that I do not mean that the referee has played soft improperly, it is very good and knows how to show red when needed.

Annoying item arrived after the last day of a 2014 systematic errors simply by "touching" an opponent without even pressing a button conch. Again, no whistle useless man in yellow.

I did not test against by the famous challenge of haters in position last defender.


b) The advantage rule

A well boring appearance on PES 2014 is that there was never any advantage, whether for conventional or offside foul.
On the 2013, when a player was offside could select another player who was not and play quietly. 2014 on the cursor was often stuck on the offside player without the possibility of anything.
And often, when we came to realize a beautiful deep pass, another one of our players, its illegal position, drew the flag raising ... Not cool.
And did not yell at death whereas being alone with the ball to go shoot the guard, or even downright having a goal, the action was set to 0 for an AI vs. AI fault 20 meters behind!

Well this has been corrected, when there is flagrant foul but the ball remains in our possession, no whistle. For offside, I saw it on a share, a center for my AC too late was not booed because DC has finally got back and returned later.

What allow the game does not stop for anything.


3 - Passes

Passes not at all unmanned to the feet of our teammates. The ball is freer and more critical gauge.

Do not expect change wing fully pressing the button long pass, the ball will target key and a single player race recipient can save the ball (uncontrolled head could start against opponent)

It will therefore monitor its long passes even shorter distance because the ball to the feet of an average player will quickly tend not to reach their destination.

Short passes are however more accurate (it will be tested with lower than those available in this demo players). The forward pass and the centers will be discussed later.

My test was setting 3/4 passes. I have not tried lower because it was already satisfactory way.


4 - Controls

Again, the importance of the player is striking. Not bad ball was lost by a missed check, but never for the big players (Van Persie, Rooney, Tevez ...).
Except for a small error in English while I went to the point, he controlled the heel ... Annoying ...: hap:

5 - Coup Franc

During a match, CF distance (45 m) my opponent try to see. Sometimes the ball well repiquait toward goals, and my Buffon had all the trouble to remove it. It was immediately told (my opponent) that y'avait p'tete way! It has not failed. CF after it retries and Buffon in goals ... slap!

Many shot goes well above but with a CR7 or Zlatan commands, it can hurt! : death:

6 - Fatigue players

Why treat fatigue of the players? Because it will be of crucial importance, far more than previously!

From the 75th minute, players are cooked. The game becomes very rough, players can not run properly, can no longer passes very well and the shooting away goals.
Even Vidal, yet very tough, had its very low gauge. Completely vacuum gauge for many others.

Replacements, particularly in defense (DC unable to catch anyone) are more decisive than in 2014.


permalink
Nolansama View profile Nolansama
Posted August 3, 2014 at 6:24:26 p.m. Tell a director
Phase offensive

7 - Assists

Perhaps the topic that outperforms others. The famous "Triangle" or "L1 Triangle."
Well as you may have read, it is not at all as easy and determining that in 2014. Almost.

The forward pass itself has changed. With good distributors is a great battle between the attacker and the defender fires.

The defense is much more likely to catch the ball or obstruct the attacker. We see for example the DC physically come on even if the AC does not have the ball to prevent any dangerous situation.

But the defense is not an impenetrable wall either. For example, I managed Kagawa THE perfect pass to Van Persie in depth. Chiellini could simply accompany helplessly. But this is rare in a game.
Another time the ball was going the same way, but the defense was finally able to recover.
Just a detail, which makes it not possible abuse, even with Andrea Pirlo and harassment Triangle. : Yes I am:

8 - Shots

Conventional shots are not normal. Double square, lobbed shot wound or flick, none seem "cheated" or gradient as late in the season with 2014.
Manual fire have not changed, horrible when you do not want to put, when a devastating habit.

Special mention for the heads. Rather they are framed (never needed to use the heads stitched) and goes much easier. Warning, it is far from "head center" Fifa but it changes in the right direction compared to 2014.


9 - Teammates

On the players around us, they throw good calls, sometimes very good, and everywhere before us. It is found only very few unresolved in the last 40 meters. A feast for the eyes. : play:


10 - The Accelerations

Ah the famous defenders of 2014 caught up with us constantly ... From ancient history!

When launched, a good shot 2x R1 and the player pushes the ball then speeds without the opponent can not catch up immediately.
The same for deep passes. A fast player will be able to go to the goals. If tried the defender has not embarrassed enough before course.

A Note to centers in the 2014 offensive players sprinted then magically opponents returned and gave off the ball.
This time attackers and defenders run together and it will be the sharper it will be decided.
I used "live" and not "fast" because even a slower defender but with good reflexes can take it with her foot.


Phase defensive

11 - The Defense General

In general terms, therefore, the defense is very solid.
As mentioned above, the deep passes are almost always will not be as devastating as a habit.

In addition, we may remember that in 2014 the defense, no matter how low we have put in the parameters was consistently high when was offensive phase. What to take on against against.
This time the defense is in place and not higher.

I always use the defensive line with arrows on the 2014 but I hardly had to do during the tests (against someone who tested the deep passes galore).

Caution still training, whether their own or that of the opponent. (Detailed below)

12 - The Clash vs AC DC

Most of the PES is that is not always losing at defensive tackle.
When the AC is running, a good shot of R3 slows down very well see the stop completely without the referee uses his whistle. : ok:
It will be against by attention Corner for air power players will determine not to take headed goals.


Menus training

13 - Training

More than ever, the choice of the training will be crucial in this game.
United taking 4-3-3 and against fast, we find this domination of the opposing half of the field 60-65% of the game without showing completely.

However after this percentage of the match Juventus against, possessed immense boulevards.
A loose ball and Tevez / Llorente found the median line against DC Juve.
Suffice to say that with a good substitute offensive, acceleration and this will be the duel against the keeper.
A good defensive tactic in reserve will save us a game. ))


14 - The New Menu tactics

I unfortunately did not think to write them down, but the training menu has completely changed and is much more comprehensive.
6 or 7 menus are available instead of 1,2 and 3 of tactics 2014.
In the menu used to select against fast, possession ... we can note the presence of new options such as "Wide" or "Center" Game expands or centered game. "Short Pass" or "Long Pass" game short passes or longer passes.

I also remember seeing a space to store a tactical defensive role. Short enough honed to perfection our tactical grip on the game.



Conclusion:

This PES looks excellent, I really enjoyed this demo.
The defense did not hole without curb the attacks.
I have not talked about the graphics because that side Konami knows how. The faces are gorgeous but there were only 22 after all.

Many aspects could come tarnish the game (How will the LMO 2015?) Except dumpling Konamiesque But, I am confident to pass the PS4 for this game looks great!

That's all for me! : noel:

Fue publicada en Wenb UK

mejor regalanos un resumen polter mira que es muy larga la traducción ...

Polter2k escribió:Una detallada traducción de un frances de los que están probando la beta de Manchester aun en Francia

La dejo por lo detallada y completa para el que quiera traducirla:

by Richmond » Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:01 pm

Long French impression translated by Google. Hard to read but lots of details.


Hello everyone,

I was testing the beast last Friday and now tell you my felt on this new album.

CAUTION IS LONG. Do not hesitate to come back if you're too lazy to read. : CABG:

I said that I participated in 3h test and casi every match I did was against real people. I do not speak here of the IA.

I will deal with what seems to me worth noting. I do not treat either of which did not change (such as dribbling system for example).

My opinion will be presented as follows:

In general play

1 - The Guardians
2 - Arbitration
3 - Passes
4 - Controls
5 - Coup Franc
6 - Fatigue players


Phase offensive

7 - Assists
8 - Shots
9 - Teammates
10 - Acceleration

Phase defensive

11 - The defense in general
12 - The Duel AC vs DC

Menus training

13 - Training
14 - The new tactical menus

Conclusion.

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In general play


1 - The Guardians

I will not discuss here the bugs and profanity in the behavior of the guards, too recess for Konami leaves the game as well (confirmed by this manager)
I'm going to talk about something that jumped out at me from my first match on the beast.

ATTITUDE OF GUARDS CUSTOM

What I mean by personal attitude, it's just that the behavior of the guard in the game is the same as true. Never differences guards will not know as much important in the game (especially LMO!).
Buffon eg clearances are not part of its qualities, in part by his lack of punching power. It is not very comfortable at home in the air.
Well these "details" are obvious on the screen.
First, at such centers, Buffon is very often on the line. There is relatively little "reassure" defend it. Second clearances Buffon are very soft. For example using the manual release (L2 + button Long Pass), the ball goes very often ... bell! For arriving a ball that is not even the half of the field!


If these features are impressive, it is because the other guard this demo, alias De Gea is another story. Spanish is a typical premier league goalkeeper. The air does not scare him or even distant releases. And it shows.

On centers, but especially on corners (developed later) De Gea no chance for opposing forwards. With a firm hand he return the balloons on the sides (not the center to the surface for a missile we come clean the window ^ ^). For clearances, it is a joy. Unlike Buffon, the release is a very manual missile. Well used and in situations conducive, it is a true caviar passes Neuer we can achieve a pure Assist! : cute:


2 - Arbitration

a) The severity

Unlike a number of other tests, I have absolutely no evidence of arbitration severity! Any or more 1 or 2 yellow cards in the game! It will not take recess cast headlong into your slide tackles not mastered (as someone with whom I played, which has many user tackles to just check if the referee was harsh ... nay, I have found no injustice, no penalty stolen, no CF to 20 meters unfair after a forceful intervention).
Note that I do not mean that the referee has played soft improperly, it is very good and knows how to show red when needed.

Annoying item arrived after the last day of a 2014 systematic errors simply by "touching" an opponent without even pressing a button conch. Again, no whistle useless man in yellow.

I did not test against by the famous challenge of haters in position last defender.


b) The advantage rule

A well boring appearance on PES 2014 is that there was never any advantage, whether for conventional or offside foul.
On the 2013, when a player was offside could select another player who was not and play quietly. 2014 on the cursor was often stuck on the offside player without the possibility of anything.
And often, when we came to realize a beautiful deep pass, another one of our players, its illegal position, drew the flag raising ... Not cool.
And did not yell at death whereas being alone with the ball to go shoot the guard, or even downright having a goal, the action was set to 0 for an AI vs. AI fault 20 meters behind!

Well this has been corrected, when there is flagrant foul but the ball remains in our possession, no whistle. For offside, I saw it on a share, a center for my AC too late was not booed because DC has finally got back and returned later.

What allow the game does not stop for anything.


3 - Passes

Passes not at all unmanned to the feet of our teammates. The ball is freer and more critical gauge.

Do not expect change wing fully pressing the button long pass, the ball will target key and a single player race recipient can save the ball (uncontrolled head could start against opponent)

It will therefore monitor its long passes even shorter distance because the ball to the feet of an average player will quickly tend not to reach their destination.

Short passes are however more accurate (it will be tested with lower than those available in this demo players). The forward pass and the centers will be discussed later.

My test was setting 3/4 passes. I have not tried lower because it was already satisfactory way.


4 - Controls

Again, the importance of the player is striking. Not bad ball was lost by a missed check, but never for the big players (Van Persie, Rooney, Tevez ...).
Except for a small error in English while I went to the point, he controlled the heel ... Annoying ...: hap:

5 - Coup Franc

During a match, CF distance (45 m) my opponent try to see. Sometimes the ball well repiquait toward goals, and my Buffon had all the trouble to remove it. It was immediately told (my opponent) that y'avait p'tete way! It has not failed. CF after it retries and Buffon in goals ... slap!

Many shot goes well above but with a CR7 or Zlatan commands, it can hurt! : death:

6 - Fatigue players

Why treat fatigue of the players? Because it will be of crucial importance, far more than previously!

From the 75th minute, players are cooked. The game becomes very rough, players can not run properly, can no longer passes very well and the shooting away goals.
Even Vidal, yet very tough, had its very low gauge. Completely vacuum gauge for many others.

Replacements, particularly in defense (DC unable to catch anyone) are more decisive than in 2014.


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Phase offensive

7 - Assists

Perhaps the topic that outperforms others. The famous "Triangle" or "L1 Triangle."
Well as you may have read, it is not at all as easy and determining that in 2014. Almost.

The forward pass itself has changed. With good distributors is a great battle between the attacker and the defender fires.

The defense is much more likely to catch the ball or obstruct the attacker. We see for example the DC physically come on even if the AC does not have the ball to prevent any dangerous situation.

But the defense is not an impenetrable wall either. For example, I managed Kagawa THE perfect pass to Van Persie in depth. Chiellini could simply accompany helplessly. But this is rare in a game.
Another time the ball was going the same way, but the defense was finally able to recover.
Just a detail, which makes it not possible abuse, even with Andrea Pirlo and harassment Triangle. : Yes I am:

8 - Shots

Conventional shots are not normal. Double square, lobbed shot wound or flick, none seem "cheated" or gradient as late in the season with 2014.
Manual fire have not changed, horrible when you do not want to put, when a devastating habit.

Special mention for the heads. Rather they are framed (never needed to use the heads stitched) and goes much easier. Warning, it is far from "head center" Fifa but it changes in the right direction compared to 2014.


9 - Teammates

On the players around us, they throw good calls, sometimes very good, and everywhere before us. It is found only very few unresolved in the last 40 meters. A feast for the eyes. : play:


10 - The Accelerations

Ah the famous defenders of 2014 caught up with us constantly ... From ancient history!

When launched, a good shot 2x R1 and the player pushes the ball then speeds without the opponent can not catch up immediately.
The same for deep passes. A fast player will be able to go to the goals. If tried the defender has not embarrassed enough before course.

A Note to centers in the 2014 offensive players sprinted then magically opponents returned and gave off the ball.
This time attackers and defenders run together and it will be the sharper it will be decided.
I used "live" and not "fast" because even a slower defender but with good reflexes can take it with her foot.


Phase defensive

11 - The Defense General

In general terms, therefore, the defense is very solid.
As mentioned above, the deep passes are almost always will not be as devastating as a habit.

In addition, we may remember that in 2014 the defense, no matter how low we have put in the parameters was consistently high when was offensive phase. What to take on against against.
This time the defense is in place and not higher.

I always use the defensive line with arrows on the 2014 but I hardly had to do during the tests (against someone who tested the deep passes galore).

Caution still training, whether their own or that of the opponent. (Detailed below)

12 - The Clash vs AC DC

Most of the PES is that is not always losing at defensive tackle.
When the AC is running, a good shot of R3 slows down very well see the stop completely without the referee uses his whistle. : ok:
It will be against by attention Corner for air power players will determine not to take headed goals.


Menus training

13 - Training

More than ever, the choice of the training will be crucial in this game.
United taking 4-3-3 and against fast, we find this domination of the opposing half of the field 60-65% of the game without showing completely.

However after this percentage of the match Juventus against, possessed immense boulevards.
A loose ball and Tevez / Llorente found the median line against DC Juve.
Suffice to say that with a good substitute offensive, acceleration and this will be the duel against the keeper.
A good defensive tactic in reserve will save us a game. ))


14 - The New Menu tactics

I unfortunately did not think to write them down, but the training menu has completely changed and is much more comprehensive.
6 or 7 menus are available instead of 1,2 and 3 of tactics 2014.
In the menu used to select against fast, possession ... we can note the presence of new options such as "Wide" or "Center" Game expands or centered game. "Short Pass" or "Long Pass" game short passes or longer passes.

I also remember seeing a space to store a tactical defensive role. Short enough honed to perfection our tactical grip on the game.



Conclusion:

This PES looks excellent, I really enjoyed this demo.
The defense did not hole without curb the attacks.
I have not talked about the graphics because that side Konami knows how. The faces are gorgeous but there were only 22 after all.

Many aspects could come tarnish the game (How will the LMO 2015?) Except dumpling Konamiesque But, I am confident to pass the PS4 for this game looks great!

That's all for me! : noel:

Fue publicada en Wenb UK

david_sanfer escribió:Lo que yo no entiendo es si de verdad el juego es tan maravilloso como lo describe ese chaval fancés y que no tiene los fallos graves a los que nos tiene acostumbrado la saga en los últimos años ¿por qué aún no tiene fecha de salida el juego? ¿trailer? ¿gameplays? ¿imágenes?

Hasta que no lo veo no lo creo. Raro, raro, raro.

Polter2k escribió:

david_sanfer escribió:Lo que yo no entiendo es si de verdad el juego es tan maravilloso como lo describe ese chaval fancés y que no tiene los fallos graves a los que nos tiene acostumbrado la saga en los últimos años ¿por qué aún no tiene fecha de salida el juego? ¿trailer? ¿gameplays? ¿imágenes?

Hasta que no lo veo no lo creo. Raro, raro, raro.

1) aun no tiene fecha de salida porque no la dirán sin correr el riesgo de no llegar a ella con el juego finalizado

2) trailer? porque los inútiles del dpto de marketing hicieron uno tan malo que tuvieron que sacarlo, por lo que no sacarán uno hasta no asegurarse que no haya ningún error criticable en el ya que saben que será analizado con lupa

3) gameplays? lo mismo que el post anterior, no mostrarán gameplays hasta no asegurarse que no salga ningún error que será de lo único que se hablará sin importar si muestran 10 cosas buenas... solo basta una mala para que se repita el loop de siempre.

4) imagenes? porque estas no presentarán gran diferencia con lo que ya hemos visto en PS3... no se esperen un salto "revolucionario" ni "innovador" ni nada por el estilo en Ps4... por lo que en realidad no aportarían mucho.

Yo me fio poco, tanto de las opiniones negativas como de las muy positivas... prefiero opinar teniendo el demo en mi consola y el control en mis manos... lo demas es solo paja molida.

david_sanfer escribió:

Pero Polter a lo que yo me refiero es que según esas opiniones de los que han probado el juego, éste esta ya más que preparado para su venta cuando ni siquiera se sabe cuando saldrá ¿raro no?

Polter2k escribió:

david_sanfer escribió:

Pero Polter a lo que yo me refiero es que según esas opiniones de los que han probado el juego, éste esta ya más que preparado para su venta cuando ni siquiera se sabe cuando saldrá ¿raro no?

Yo creo que eso de que este mas que preparado para su venta se lo cree quien aun cree en Santa Claus

Al juego aun le falta... y es mejor que no se apresuren en dar fechas si luego no van a cumplir...

En mi opinión la gente a veces se entusiasma mas de la cuenta en estas pruebas privadas... ya sea para mal o para bien... o sea se exageran mucho ambas posturas... por lo que lo mejor es tener mesura y no dejarse llevar por el entusiasmo del momento.

Ni el juego está tan mal como lo pintan algunos... ni tan bien como lo pintan otros...

Mejor esperar la demo y luego ver en que nivel estamos.

Bueno eso en MI OPINION claro está

B081210 escribió:

nickplatino escribió:

madridista escribió:Sebas Fernandez ‏@creeloyasisera

Mañana subire mi opinión sobre la demo #PES2015 en #E3. Te invito a dejar tus consultas asi respondo en el video. http://www.youtube.com/sebasarg

pd: sera hora española..hora de latinoamerica? esto de los horarios es un poco confuso...

Da igual la hora que sea, la credibilidad de ese personaje es nula. Mejor pasar de él y acudir a fuentes serias...

+8 (tumbado) jajajajja

survival escribió:El problema es que nadie de nosotros lo ha probado, haber si Javi lo prueba pronto y nos cuenta.
Aunque ya podría Konami haberle mandado en avión a Colonia unos días por todo el feedback, tiempo, dedicación gratuita que les dedica

LocoMono escribió:

nickplatino escribió:

LocoMono escribió:Mientras tanto...


Robbye Ron @robbyearon · 34 min

Adam Bhatti dice que los entiende y sabe que quieren algo que los convenza sin nada de excusas, todo se revelara pronto. Gracias #PES2015

Parece una sexta diabólica...

REPITO: "Gente a la que NO debéis hacer ni caso de aquí a que salga el juego: Adam Bhatti, Sebas Fernández, Robbye Ron. Hacedme caso, os ahorraréis muchos disgustos y momentos de mala hostia."

Entiendo haber sido bien critico de mi experiencia en E3 sobre PES2015.
Realmente he leido cosas a mi nombre que me han sacado una sonrisa para comenzar la semana.
Saludos gente!

Yo por las dudas me voy,a ver si rastrean mi ip,me hacen una macumba y todo eso.

wiket escribió:sonrisa y verguenza ajena provoca vuestra actitud todos estos años. gracias a dios estan todos los videos en youtube para dejaros por los suelos. Ale, pesnosune

Pd:por cierto, dinos como pones pes 2014 a 1080 para que nos vuelen los sentidos.

creeloyasisera escribió:

wiket escribió:sonrisa y verguenza ajena provoca vuestra actitud todos estos años. gracias a dios estan todos los videos en youtube para dejaros por los suelos. Ale, pesnosune

Pd:por cierto, dinos como pones pes 2014 a 1080 para que nos vuelen los sentidos.

El DEMO del PES2014 fue lo mejor que jugue ... no asi el juego completo compañero.
El demo:
- 2 equipos FULL licencias
- estadio full
- kits full
- caras de los 40 jugadores

el juego no trababa porque era liviano.

de ahi a lo que salio como juego FINAL ... que habra pasado no tengo idea.

En relacion a este proximo PES, espero que la demo sea tentadora, personalmente esperaba algo mas, no se si por mi ultimo año jugando PS4 donde las exigencias quizas subieron.

Veremos cual es la opinion general.

Saludos