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Senegio escribió:Yo es que no puedo dejar de ver a Bran como villano. Uno oculto que ha manipulado al resto para conseguir lo que quería: poder.
Lo peor es que nunca sabremos si es así, o al menos no hasta los libros. Pero para mí este es el final y esta es la razón del camino que ha recorrido, manipulando todo y forzando la locura de Daenerys para tener el camino libre.
A ver si al final el Rey de la Noche sólo quería salvarlos de el verdadero malo maloso....
A medida que van muriendo, los protagonistas van hablando. Antes de la llegada de la gran finale, estas son algunas de las críticas que han ido trascendiendo.
DinozzoESP escribió:¿Y que me decís de Davos ofreciendo a los inmaculados formar una casa? ¿Como iban a tener herederos si no tienen polla? JAJAJAJAJA
Otro desastre argumental más, sólo hay que pensar y empiezan a salir cosas sinsentido.
Y los dothraki haciendo respawn...
santigt4 escribió:Rugal_kof94 escribió:santigt4 escribió:El elegir a Bran rey, bueno, lo compro, lo que no compro es el circo ese de consejo que se montan y lo de Sansa con Invernarlia independiente es de traca... a todos les parece de puta madre, hasta a los de Dorne... ver para creer.
También pensé lo mismo cuando miran los del Dorne en plan "pues vale, para ti la perra chica" y dejan hacer.
Pero tampoco es tan así. Sansa hace ver que el norte ha luchado por todos contra los caminantes blancos mientras los demás tenían el culo calentito en casa, por no decir también que es Invernalia el ejército que se enfrentó al de Cersei y se hace de valer para reclamar que Invernalia sea independiente a modo de compensación. Simplemente dice "esta boca es mía" para que Invernalia no queden como los pringaos que han sacado las castañas del fuego a los demás con un coste que además ha sido altísimo. Bien mirado, poco me parece.
Cierto que el norte se lo puede merecer y veo lógico y legítimo que Sansa tenga intenciones de hacerlo, pero que menos que un discurso currado o algo que le de peso a la decisión, aunque sea una ligera discusión entre los dirigentes, porque no me parece muy creíble que a todos les parezca bien o que visto que uno lo quiero otros también lo quieran. Es como lo que decía al final, no me parece mal la decisión pero la ejecución es muy inverosímil.
pepevic escribió:un adulto te hace mas caso, tiene educacion, sabe lo q es el respeto..
DinozzoESP escribió:@srkarakol déjalos, son felices en su ignorancia, ¿Quién somos nosotros para quitarles eso?
el dragón no mata a Jon porque piensa que Daenerys ha muerto por culpa de la espada que tiene clavado, y le "echa la culpa" al trono, que está hecho precisamente de espadas. De hecho se ve como cambia la mirada entra una espada y las otras antes de tomar al decisión de quemarlo. A Jon no le mata porque le ve llorar al muerte de su madre y sabe de antes que eran "amores"
En cuanto a lo de que Tyrion no aparece en el libro, otra cosa que no has entendido. Le dicen que no aparece para que no le siente mal, porque si sale, pero en los libros Tyrion es descrito como un enano con la cara desfigurada y amorfa, casi como un monstruo.
srkarakol escribió:Una puntualización... eso de que Drogon no quema a jon porque es un Targaryen...
En la historia de los siete reinos hay bastantes Targaryen devorados por dragones.
Ashenbach escribió:Entiendo que querían quitar hierro al capítulo y meter una escena amable y graciosa, pero es ridículo. Lo del libro es otro fanservice cutre y salchichero (entiendo que se llama "Canción de hielo y fuego" por las dos cosas que casi acaban con Poniente, ¿no? porque otra cosa no tiene sentido alguno...el "guiño" a los lectores me parece mas bien un insulto ya que la Canción de hielo y fuego que los lectores conocemos ni se nombra en la serie) y el hecho de que omitan a Tyrion...bffffff...no tiene ningún sentido, solo por los loles, pues OK, habrá que reirse supongo.
srkarakol escribió:Una puntualización... eso de que Drogon no quema a jon porque es un Targaryen...
En la historia de los siete reinos hay bastantes Targaryen devorados por dragones.
Golondrino escribió:@Ashenbach Hay varias cosas que creo que no has entendido bien.el dragón no mata a Jon porque piensa que Daenerys ha muerto por culpa de la espada que tiene clavado, y le "echa la culpa" al trono, que está hecho precisamente de espadas. De hecho se ve como cambia la mirada entra una espada y las otras antes de tomar al decisión de quemarlo. A Jon no le mata porque le ve llorar al muerte de su madre y sabe de antes que eran "amores"
En cuanto a lo de que Tyrion no aparece en el libro, otra cosa que no has entendido. Le dicen que no aparece para que no le siente mal, porque si sale, pero en los libros Tyrion es descrito como un enano con la cara desfigurada y amorfa, casi como un monstruo.
Arlgrim escribió:pepevic escribió:un adulto te hace mas caso, tiene educacion, sabe lo q es el respeto..
¿De que planeta vienes?
Bienvenido al mundo crack.
The last night, the last show. After eight epic seasons, HBO’s GAME OF THRONES series has come to an end.
It is hard to believe it is over, if truth be told. The years have gone past in the blink of an eye. Can it really have been more than a decade since my manager Vince Gerardis set up a meeting at the Palm in LA, and I sat down for the first time with David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for a lunch that lasted well past dinner? I asked them if they knew who Jon Snow’s mother was. Fortunately, they did.
That was how it started. It ended last night.
I had no clue, that afternoon at the Palm, that I was about to embark on a journey that would change my life. I had optioned books and stories for television and film before. Some had even been made There was no way to know that this one was going to be different, that this pilot would not only be shot, but would go on to become the most successful show in the history of HBO, win a record number of Emmy Awards, become the most popular (and most pirated) show in the world, and transform a group of talented but largely unknown actors into major celebrities and stars. Even less did I imagine that I would somehow become a celebrity as well… and if truth be told, I’m still not sure how that happened.
It has been a wild ride, to say the least.
I want to thank people, but there are so many. There were forty-two cast members at the season eight premiere in New York City, and that wasn’t even all of them. And the crew, though less visible than the cast, were no less important. We had some amazing people working on this show, as all those Emmys bear witness. David & Dan assembled a championship team. The directors were incredible as well. I should start naming names, but then I’d miss someone, there were so many. But I do need to mention David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Bryan Cogman (the third head of the dragon, as I said in the recent VANITY FAIR piece about him), and of course the great team at HBO, headed by Richard Plepler. Any other network, and GAME OF THRONES would not have been what it became. Most other networks, this series never gets made at all.
I could go on and on… and have, as I’ve been writing this post in my head… but there’s really too much to say. Parting is such sweet sorrow, the Bard wrote. In the weeks and months to come, I may post about some of my favorite moments from the making of this show… now and again, when I am feeling nostalgic… but just now, there are so many memories, and no time to do them all justice.
Let me say this much — last night was an ending, but it was also a beginning. Nobody is retiring any time soon. David and Dan are going on to STAR WARS and other projects beyond that. Amazon scooped up Bryan Cogman, and put him to work on developing shows of his own, as well as helping out on their big Tolkien project. Our brilliant cast has scattered to the four winds, but you’ll be seeing a lot of them in the years to come, in all manner of television shows and movies. Our directors are keeping busy as well. I suspect that you have not seen the last of Westeros on your television sets either, but I guess that all depends on how some of these successor shows turn out.
And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…
And I’m writing. Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is. THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done. I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.
How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?
Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.
I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget. They had six hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them. And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one. There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet. And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…
Book or show, which will be the “real” ending? It’s a silly question. How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?
How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.
Don_Boqueronnn escribió:Martin comentando sobre el final de la serie:The last night, the last show. After eight epic seasons, HBO’s GAME OF THRONES series has come to an end.
It is hard to believe it is over, if truth be told. The years have gone past in the blink of an eye. Can it really have been more than a decade since my manager Vince Gerardis set up a meeting at the Palm in LA, and I sat down for the first time with David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for a lunch that lasted well past dinner? I asked them if they knew who Jon Snow’s mother was. Fortunately, they did.
That was how it started. It ended last night.
I had no clue, that afternoon at the Palm, that I was about to embark on a journey that would change my life. I had optioned books and stories for television and film before. Some had even been made There was no way to know that this one was going to be different, that this pilot would not only be shot, but would go on to become the most successful show in the history of HBO, win a record number of Emmy Awards, become the most popular (and most pirated) show in the world, and transform a group of talented but largely unknown actors into major celebrities and stars. Even less did I imagine that I would somehow become a celebrity as well… and if truth be told, I’m still not sure how that happened.
It has been a wild ride, to say the least.
I want to thank people, but there are so many. There were forty-two cast members at the season eight premiere in New York City, and that wasn’t even all of them. And the crew, though less visible than the cast, were no less important. We had some amazing people working on this show, as all those Emmys bear witness. David & Dan assembled a championship team. The directors were incredible as well. I should start naming names, but then I’d miss someone, there were so many. But I do need to mention David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Bryan Cogman (the third head of the dragon, as I said in the recent VANITY FAIR piece about him), and of course the great team at HBO, headed by Richard Plepler. Any other network, and GAME OF THRONES would not have been what it became. Most other networks, this series never gets made at all.
I could go on and on… and have, as I’ve been writing this post in my head… but there’s really too much to say. Parting is such sweet sorrow, the Bard wrote. In the weeks and months to come, I may post about some of my favorite moments from the making of this show… now and again, when I am feeling nostalgic… but just now, there are so many memories, and no time to do them all justice.
Let me say this much — last night was an ending, but it was also a beginning. Nobody is retiring any time soon. David and Dan are going on to STAR WARS and other projects beyond that. Amazon scooped up Bryan Cogman, and put him to work on developing shows of his own, as well as helping out on their big Tolkien project. Our brilliant cast has scattered to the four winds, but you’ll be seeing a lot of them in the years to come, in all manner of television shows and movies. Our directors are keeping busy as well. I suspect that you have not seen the last of Westeros on your television sets either, but I guess that all depends on how some of these successor shows turn out.
And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…
And I’m writing. Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is. THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done. I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.
How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?
Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.
I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget. They had six hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them. And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one. There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet. And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…
Book or show, which will be the “real” ending? It’s a silly question. How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?
How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.
Sigfredo91 escribió:
Mira que sois cansinos. Dejad ya las notificaciones: el final ha sido una maravilla, y me importa poco o nada vuestras impresiones.
Lo de Bran, lo mejor del capítulo.
saraiba escribió:@Goncatin
Son dragones, que luego existan distintas clases no quiere decir que dejen de ser dragones todos.
Precisamente los wyvern se usan bastante en las ilustraciones y novelas de fantasia.
Golondrino escribió:@Ashenbach Hay varias cosas que creo que no has entendido bien.el dragón no mata a Jon porque piensa que Daenerys ha muerto por culpa de la espada que tiene clavado, y le "echa la culpa" al trono, que está hecho precisamente de espadas. De hecho se ve como cambia la mirada entra una espada y las otras antes de tomar al decisión de quemarlo. A Jon no le mata porque le ve llorar al muerte de su madre y sabe de antes que eran "amores"
En cuanto a lo de que Tyrion no aparece en el libro, otra cosa que no has entendido. Le dicen que no aparece para que no le siente mal, porque si sale, pero en los libros Tyrion es descrito como un enano con la cara desfigurada y amorfa, casi como un monstruo.
Goncatin escribió:Menkure escribió:Por cierto, Drogon me parece el dragon mejor representado hasta el momento en cine o television... salvo por desdentao
Drogon no es un dragón, es un guiverno. Que en la serie lo llamen dragón, pues vale, pero en el mundo real a esas criaturas se les llama guivernos, no dragones.
Guiverno
Dragon
¿Ves la diferencia?
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
eR_pOty escribió:Goncatin escribió:Menkure escribió:Por cierto, Drogon me parece el dragon mejor representado hasta el momento en cine o television... salvo por desdentao
Drogon no es un dragón, es un guiverno. Que en la serie lo llamen dragón, pues vale, pero en el mundo real a esas criaturas se les llama guivernos, no dragones.
Guiverno
Dragon
¿Ves la diferencia?
los guivernos no tienen cuernos... drogon si.
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
Adris escribió:Shiro_himura escribió:Espero que cuando Martin termine la historia y cuente lo mismo, con el mismo final también renegeís de el
En serio te enteras de lo que lees, o directamente posteas sin mas. Creo que se ha dejado bien claro que el final en si es lo de menos. Si ese final estuviese bien contado, narrado, sin gilipolleces ni incoherencias, con sentido, con algo de épica, pues estupendo.
eRiKaXPiReNCe escribió:El final, muyayo, tal cual esta en la serie me temo que ni de coña va a ser igual.
Shiro_himura escribió:Don_Boqueronnn escribió:Martin comentando sobre el final de la serie:The last night, the last show. After eight epic seasons, HBO’s GAME OF THRONES series has come to an end.
It is hard to believe it is over, if truth be told. The years have gone past in the blink of an eye. Can it really have been more than a decade since my manager Vince Gerardis set up a meeting at the Palm in LA, and I sat down for the first time with David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for a lunch that lasted well past dinner? I asked them if they knew who Jon Snow’s mother was. Fortunately, they did.
That was how it started. It ended last night.
I had no clue, that afternoon at the Palm, that I was about to embark on a journey that would change my life. I had optioned books and stories for television and film before. Some had even been made There was no way to know that this one was going to be different, that this pilot would not only be shot, but would go on to become the most successful show in the history of HBO, win a record number of Emmy Awards, become the most popular (and most pirated) show in the world, and transform a group of talented but largely unknown actors into major celebrities and stars. Even less did I imagine that I would somehow become a celebrity as well… and if truth be told, I’m still not sure how that happened.
It has been a wild ride, to say the least.
I want to thank people, but there are so many. There were forty-two cast members at the season eight premiere in New York City, and that wasn’t even all of them. And the crew, though less visible than the cast, were no less important. We had some amazing people working on this show, as all those Emmys bear witness. David & Dan assembled a championship team. The directors were incredible as well. I should start naming names, but then I’d miss someone, there were so many. But I do need to mention David Benioff, Dan Weiss, Bryan Cogman (the third head of the dragon, as I said in the recent VANITY FAIR piece about him), and of course the great team at HBO, headed by Richard Plepler. Any other network, and GAME OF THRONES would not have been what it became. Most other networks, this series never gets made at all.
I could go on and on… and have, as I’ve been writing this post in my head… but there’s really too much to say. Parting is such sweet sorrow, the Bard wrote. In the weeks and months to come, I may post about some of my favorite moments from the making of this show… now and again, when I am feeling nostalgic… but just now, there are so many memories, and no time to do them all justice.
Let me say this much — last night was an ending, but it was also a beginning. Nobody is retiring any time soon. David and Dan are going on to STAR WARS and other projects beyond that. Amazon scooped up Bryan Cogman, and put him to work on developing shows of his own, as well as helping out on their big Tolkien project. Our brilliant cast has scattered to the four winds, but you’ll be seeing a lot of them in the years to come, in all manner of television shows and movies. Our directors are keeping busy as well. I suspect that you have not seen the last of Westeros on your television sets either, but I guess that all depends on how some of these successor shows turn out.
And me? I’m still here, and I’m still busy. As a producer, I’ve got five shows in development at HBO (some having nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Westeros), two at Hulu, one on the History Channel. I’m involved with a number of feature projects, some based upon my own stories and books, some on material created by others. There are these short films I am hoping to make, adaptations of classic stories by one of the most brilliant, quirky, and original writers our genre has ever produced. I’ve consulted on a video game out of Japan. And then there’s Meow Wolf…
And I’m writing. Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is. THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done. I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.
How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?
Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.
I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget. They had six hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them. And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one. There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet. And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…
Book or show, which will be the “real” ending? It’s a silly question. How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?
How about this? I’ll write it. You read it. Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.
Grande como siempre, y ahora que continuen los haters y demás hablando que el propio gordo los acaba de callar.
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FrAn3k escribió:Hereze escribió:Para flipar, 356 euros el pack con todas las temporadas de Juego de Tronos
https://www.zavvi.es/blu-ray/game-of-thrones-complete-collector-s-limited-edition/12143366.html
En amazon esta a 308. Imagino que sera la misma...
Franz_Fer escribió:Yo creo que cuando leamos cómo es el enfrentamiento con los Otros vamos a darnos cuenta de hasta qué punto van a variar las cosas.
Porque en los libros en NK ni siquiera existe.