Darkcaptain escribió:Buenas gente, esta frase no puede faltar cada día por parte de algún usuario, y hoy me toca otra vez a mi:
Alguna noticia/resumen en general interesante? he leído por encima lo del Kinect y paso de comentar, no tengo ganas de perder el tiempo con los usuarios de siempre xD
Lo dicho, si hay algo interesante.. o simplemente hay noticias sin importancia como cada día y demás...
PD: Las firmas son cada una a 0,50€ (impuestos incluidos) que hay que ahorrar para la Xone
y esto pasa por que ni el gato entiende el español![[carcajad]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani2.gif "carcajada")
Umbasa escribió:Que pena que Kinect 2 no tenga idioma español de lanzamiento, yo queria hablar con algo o alguien que me escuchara y contarle mis problemas. Como en español no me entendera le hablare en idioma borracho los domingos por la mañana
Strife 117 escribió:NucelarGen escribió:A que hora empieza el PrePax?
Si te refieres al Xbox Meet Up que se celebra hoy en Seattle es a las 7:30PM (4:30AM hora española si no me equivoco).
![[+risas]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani3.gif "más risas")
. Entonces hoy como noticia potente el tema de 1,9 para la CPU y el tema de doble gpu como rumores no?Godex escribió:theogre escribió:Godex escribió:Lo de la Gpu esa, ¿de qué va? Hablando en plata, ¿ha habido overclocking o es algo nuevo que no se sabía antes?
pd (yo soy otro que tampoco domina la materia xD)
Un simple rumor que se resumen en dos puntos:
1. Microsoft, en la hotchips, solamente dió las especificaciones del main soc.
2. Microsoft se encuentra sujeta a un NDA de AMD por el cual no puede hablar de la discrete GPU que acompaña al main soc por ser una nueva arquitectura de AMD.
Y claro, basta que creas algo para que encuentres indicios. Por ejemplo: ¿Cómo es posible que la Xbox One, siendo bastante menos potente que la PS4, necesite una ventilación tan agresiva en comparación con PS4?
Es decir, que hasta que un ingeniero o similar, tenga una xone en la mano, la abra y la destripe, aquí habrá rumores todos los días, ¿no? Unos buenos, otros malos.
Umbasa escribió:Yo me compro la Xbox One por el online, los juegos y sus exclusivos, porque no me gusta la estrategia de Sony de: "nosotros somos los que mas meamos", "si sale algo bueno de otra compañia le copiamos cambiandole el nombre." y porque las consolas de Sony en el online estan llenas de canis y niños rata.
Me gusta mas el ambiente que se vive en Xbox Live entre otras cosas.
Vamos... que podria seguir un buen rato de mis razones por las que quiero Xbox One.
![[+furioso]](/images/smilies/nuevos/furioso.gif "muy furioso")
Profeta del Pesar escribió:djber escribió:El castellano no vale para nada. Salir a buscar trabajo fuera teniendo solo este idioma, vereis como os dan portazo en vuestras narices
¿Qué tendrá que ver esto?
theogre escribió:
Nah... lo que hace falta es que Microsoft publique de una vez los pdf con las especificaciones de la consola.
El caso es que no sería muy descabellado contar con una "tecnología hibrida", una APU con una CPU y GPU normalita de bajo consumo para las tareas de baja demanda (interfaz del sistema, tv e indies) y una discrete GPU que se active para las tareas de alta demanda, como los juegos de Xbox ONE
Ahora en serio, creo que lo que hay es lo que es. Pero si que es cierto que tener que sacar la fuente de alimentación y tener que meter esa ventilación para un hardware mediocre (porque lo es) da bastante juego a la especulación.
jaKal escribió:El motivo principal del rumor es que el tamaño argumentado por MS para el chip no cuadra con las imágenes (es mucho más grande, se habla de un 50% más).
Eso + la ventilación + la pasta que se gastaron con NVIDIA + el NDA... da que pensar que hay más hardware del que pensamos. De ahí salen los rumores.
Seguramente acabe en nada, pero sería un pelotazo anunciar que tienen AUN más chips de apoyo o incluso una GPU para descargar más carga de proceso.
![[poraki]](/images/smilies/nuevos/dedos.gif "por aquí!")
jaKal escribió:El motivo principal del rumor es que el tamaño argumentado por MS para el chip no cuadra con las imágenes (es mucho más grande, se habla de un 50% más).
Eso + la ventilación + la pasta que se gastaron con NVIDIA + el NDA... da que pensar que hay más hardware del que pensamos. De ahí salen los rumores.
Seguramente acabe en nada, pero sería un pelotazo anunciar que tienen AUN más chips de apoyo o incluso una GPU para descargar más carga de proceso.
![[qmparto]](/images/smilies/net_quemeparto.gif "Que me parto!")
O Dae_soo escribió:Mientras que en España a las consolas se le siga llamando "LA PLEI" , los papás(la mayoría) comprarán PS$, éso es así ,nos guste o no
oscar_fv escribió:si microsoft tuviera mas hardware de lo esperado no creeis que ya lo habria dicho? porque va siendo hora creo yo
NeCLaRT escribió:Aun estamos con dobles gpu's?
Estais planteando imposibles a estas alturas, aun guardandolo como movimiento decisivo, la fecha de desvelarlo maxima ya paso hace tiempo, y la ausencia de filtracion a estas alturas de la produccion es imposible.
davidamores81 escribió:Umbasa escribió:Yo me compro la Xbox One por el online, los juegos y sus exclusivos, porque no me gusta la estrategia de Sony de: "nosotros somos los que mas meamos", "si sale algo bueno de otra compañia le copiamos cambiandole el nombre." y porque las consolas de Sony en el online estan llenas de canis y niños rata.
Me gusta mas el ambiente que se vive en Xbox Live entre otras cosas.
Vamos... que podria seguir un buen rato de mis razones por las que quiero Xbox One.
Porque la play hay mucho niño, ya que los padres por lo menos en España son la que regalan, podemos definir que microsoft es para hardcores vamos a los que nos gusta jugar pero sobre todo competir.........
NeCLaRT escribió:Aun estamos con dobles gpu's?
Estais planteando imposibles a estas alturas, aun guardandolo como movimiento decisivo, la fecha de desvelarlo maxima ya paso hace tiempo, y la ausencia de filtracion a estas alturas de la produccion es imposible.
Strife 117 escribió:oscar_fv escribió:si microsoft tuviera mas hardware de lo esperado no creeis que ya lo habria dicho? porque va siendo hora creo yo
No necesariamente, en estas cosas siempre entran contratos, acuerdos entre las compañías y los famosos NDA.
Yo pienso que tienen algo guardado, pero lo que no se es que, a ver si para finales de Septiembre sabemos algo.
the truth of specs is coming but it is not coming when you think. my contact and myself had a nice chat since e3 and let me tell you , his group and several other developers, not publishers are pissed!
First of all, ubi and ms are not on very good terms right now because ms kept them in the dark and sent them development kits very late.
My contact told me , this was a result of ubi employees breaking nda in the past and Microsoft was not going to have it again. The reason watchdogs hasnt been shown on x1 yet is because ubi is on better terms with sony but in the end the x1 will clearly have the better looking game but will be gimped in the features department and to make matters worse, ubi will gloss right over the fact the x1 is 1080p 60 fps . my contact has spoken to his friend at ubi and that is where this info comes from. He is not sure about everyone else but his studio was made to sign a new nda specifically regarding hardware until the end of september. It is in my opinion this was a result of a sony contingency plan that called for them bumping certain hardware in the ps4 if they had to at the cost of profitability. speaking of profit.... most studios are amazed at the x1 price because the tech inside is much more valuable. He told me this specifically.
Now the bombshell, the studio that will clearly exploit the hardware difference between the x1 and ps4 will be none other then rockstar studios. My contact has a contact at rockstar who told him they have not been happy with sony since gta4 . Sony gives rockstar minimum support since they've taken credit for gta's success. Microsoft on the other hand has worked very hard to support rockstar even going as far as funding specific functions during the development of gta4 and gta5 . He went on to say that this new generation will be alot different and everyone will see why when Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.
Lastly , I asked him about the specs in the x1 and he clammed up and said he cannot tell me about the soc in regards to the cores . he actually got nervous... He did give me a hint about the gpu tho. He said the gpu is exactly "on paper" what they say it is . He then said the truth is in plain site. He actually laughed and said "those sneaky sons a bitches" .
[...]Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.[...]
theogre escribió:Sobre el rumor de la dGPU, este es el post del tal parasite76 que tiene un contacto que dice que...the truth of specs is coming but it is not coming when you think. my contact and myself had a nice chat since e3 and let me tell you , his group and several other developers, not publishers are pissed!
First of all, ubi and ms are not on very good terms right now because ms kept them in the dark and sent them development kits very late.
My contact told me , this was a result of ubi employees breaking nda in the past and Microsoft was not going to have it again. The reason watchdogs hasnt been shown on x1 yet is because ubi is on better terms with sony but in the end the x1 will clearly have the better looking game but will be gimped in the features department and to make matters worse, ubi will gloss right over the fact the x1 is 1080p 60 fps . my contact has spoken to his friend at ubi and that is where this info comes from. He is not sure about everyone else but his studio was made to sign a new nda specifically regarding hardware until the end of september. It is in my opinion this was a result of a sony contingency plan that called for them bumping certain hardware in the ps4 if they had to at the cost of profitability. speaking of profit.... most studios are amazed at the x1 price because the tech inside is much more valuable. He told me this specifically.
Now the bombshell, the studio that will clearly exploit the hardware difference between the x1 and ps4 will be none other then rockstar studios. My contact has a contact at rockstar who told him they have not been happy with sony since gta4 . Sony gives rockstar minimum support since they've taken credit for gta's success. Microsoft on the other hand has worked very hard to support rockstar even going as far as funding specific functions during the development of gta4 and gta5 . He went on to say that this new generation will be alot different and everyone will see why when Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.
Lastly , I asked him about the specs in the x1 and he clammed up and said he cannot tell me about the soc in regards to the cores . he actually got nervous... He did give me a hint about the gpu tho. He said the gpu is exactly "on paper" what they say it is . He then said the truth is in plain site. He actually laughed and said "those sneaky sons a bitches" .
Fuente: http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/126738.html?thread=3073042#t3073042.
theogre escribió:[...]Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.[...]
Eso estaría bien
SCREAM25 escribió:Strife 117 escribió:oscar_fv escribió:si microsoft tuviera mas hardware de lo esperado no creeis que ya lo habria dicho? porque va siendo hora creo yo
No necesariamente, en estas cosas siempre entran contratos, acuerdos entre las compañías y los famosos NDA.
Yo pienso que tienen algo guardado, pero lo que no se es que, a ver si para finales de Septiembre sabemos algo.
Yo también pienso que se tienen algo guardado, si vence a finales de Septiembre pues entonces para Octubre es probable que tengamos todos los detalles o más aproximados que ahora. Tampoco creo que sea necesario que Msoft desvele asbsolutamente todo antes del lanzamiento y que se guarde alguna noticia importante a poquísimo tiempo de lanzar la consola. Ya decían que era una carrera a largo plazo y no un sprint
para mi no es nada importante, no creo que lo utilice el primer día theogre escribió:Sobre el rumor de la dGPU, este es el post del tal parasite76 que tiene un contacto que dice que...the truth of specs is coming but it is not coming when you think. my contact and myself had a nice chat since e3 and let me tell you , his group and several other developers, not publishers are pissed!
First of all, ubi and ms are not on very good terms right now because ms kept them in the dark and sent them development kits very late.
My contact told me , this was a result of ubi employees breaking nda in the past and Microsoft was not going to have it again. The reason watchdogs hasnt been shown on x1 yet is because ubi is on better terms with sony but in the end the x1 will clearly have the better looking game but will be gimped in the features department and to make matters worse, ubi will gloss right over the fact the x1 is 1080p 60 fps . my contact has spoken to his friend at ubi and that is where this info comes from. He is not sure about everyone else but his studio was made to sign a new nda specifically regarding hardware until the end of september. It is in my opinion this was a result of a sony contingency plan that called for them bumping certain hardware in the ps4 if they had to at the cost of profitability. speaking of profit.... most studios are amazed at the x1 price because the tech inside is much more valuable. He told me this specifically.
Now the bombshell, the studio that will clearly exploit the hardware difference between the x1 and ps4 will be none other then rockstar studios. My contact has a contact at rockstar who told him they have not been happy with sony since gta4 . Sony gives rockstar minimum support since they've taken credit for gta's success. Microsoft on the other hand has worked very hard to support rockstar even going as far as funding specific functions during the development of gta4 and gta5 . He went on to say that this new generation will be alot different and everyone will see why when Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.
Lastly , I asked him about the specs in the x1 and he clammed up and said he cannot tell me about the soc in regards to the cores . he actually got nervous... He did give me a hint about the gpu tho. He said the gpu is exactly "on paper" what they say it is . He then said the truth is in plain site. He actually laughed and said "those sneaky sons a bitches" .
Fuente: http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/126738.html?thread=3073042#t3073042.[...]Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.[...]
Eso estaría bien
![[boing]](/images/smilies/nuevos/pelota_ani1.gif "pelota")
theogre escribió:Sobre el rumor de la dGPU, este es el post del tal parasite76 que tiene un contacto que dice que...the truth of specs is coming but it is not coming when you think. my contact and myself had a nice chat since e3 and let me tell you , his group and several other developers, not publishers are pissed!
First of all, ubi and ms are not on very good terms right now because ms kept them in the dark and sent them development kits very late.
My contact told me , this was a result of ubi employees breaking nda in the past and Microsoft was not going to have it again. The reason watchdogs hasnt been shown on x1 yet is because ubi is on better terms with sony but in the end the x1 will clearly have the better looking game but will be gimped in the features department and to make matters worse, ubi will gloss right over the fact the x1 is 1080p 60 fps . my contact has spoken to his friend at ubi and that is where this info comes from. He is not sure about everyone else but his studio was made to sign a new nda specifically regarding hardware until the end of september. It is in my opinion this was a result of a sony contingency plan that called for them bumping certain hardware in the ps4 if they had to at the cost of profitability. speaking of profit.... most studios are amazed at the x1 price because the tech inside is much more valuable. He told me this specifically.
Now the bombshell, the studio that will clearly exploit the hardware difference between the x1 and ps4 will be none other then rockstar studios. My contact has a contact at rockstar who told him they have not been happy with sony since gta4 . Sony gives rockstar minimum support since they've taken credit for gta's success. Microsoft on the other hand has worked very hard to support rockstar even going as far as funding specific functions during the development of gta4 and gta5 . He went on to say that this new generation will be alot different and everyone will see why when Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.
Lastly , I asked him about the specs in the x1 and he clammed up and said he cannot tell me about the soc in regards to the cores . he actually got nervous... He did give me a hint about the gpu tho. He said the gpu is exactly "on paper" what they say it is . He then said the truth is in plain site. He actually laughed and said "those sneaky sons a bitches" .
Fuente: http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/126738.html?thread=3073042#t3073042.[...]Red Dead Rebellion is annouced as a exclusive for x1 and rockstar announces its only possible on x1.[...]
Eso estaría bien
SCREAM25 escribió:Strife 117 escribió:oscar_fv escribió:si microsoft tuviera mas hardware de lo esperado no creeis que ya lo habria dicho? porque va siendo hora creo yo
No necesariamente, en estas cosas siempre entran contratos, acuerdos entre las compañías y los famosos NDA.
Yo pienso que tienen algo guardado, pero lo que no se es que, a ver si para finales de Septiembre sabemos algo.
Yo también pienso que se tienen algo guardado, si vence a finales de Septiembre pues entonces para Octubre es probable que tengamos todos los detalles o más aproximados que ahora. Tampoco creo que sea necesario que Msoft desvele asbsolutamente todo antes del lanzamiento y que se guarde alguna noticia importante a poquísimo tiempo de lanzar la consola. Ya decían que era una carrera a largo plazo y no un sprint
