meliman07 escribió:
Horizonte de sucesos edita tu post que lo has pegado 4 veces
pspskulls escribió:
Ese articulo me huele a trolleo auténtico.
Para empezar se sacan de la manga que ambas consolas pudieran ser VI aunque AMD no les haya dicho nada sobre ello. Y para continuar meten mantle en ambas consolas cuando precisamente AMD apuntó leer a Anandtech sobre su articulo de Mantle que estaria basado en la api de One, y lógicamente la api de One no es la api de ps4.
Para continuar se dijo, creo que por amd, que la gpu de ps4 seria una sea island, a lo que según mi parecer alguien de Microsoft trolleó también diciendo que One se basaba en una sea island. De hecho creo que de aquí salió el rumor de las dos supuestas gráficas de PC que correspondería a cada consola.
Me parece un intento de damage control, para que si finalmente el bombazo en One se produce confirmando llevar VI la gente repita como loros que ps4 también lo lleva aunque no sea cierto (lo que llamariamos el efecto hUMA para entendernos, más preocupados en decir que One no lo tenia antes que entender lo que era y comprender desde la hotchips que sí). Y lo mismo con mantle, que no digo que ps4 no pueda soportarlo, pero de estar basado en la api de One ya sabemos dónde iria mejor.
Todo esto apoyado con la idea del silencio de Sony y no mostrar el interior de su consola. Mientras que con One tenemos pistas con la fuente, tamaño del SoC, o los colitronics que lo alimentan para pensar que podria haber algo más, Sony parece alimentarse de la gente sin decir ni pio y dejando que ideas como estas se repitan y se generalicen sin importarles si son verdad o no. Y vamos a ser realistas, con fuente interna, siendo más pequeña y peor refrigeración (los milagros no existen), y una fuente consumiendo lo de una ps3slim, son detalles más que suficientes como para saber que mucho más de lo que ya sabemos no va a tener.
De momento a día de hoy y confirmado es que la GPU de One soporta DX11.2 y TiledResources por hardware. Lo que nos llevaría a pensar que es una Sea Island muy modificada o una de nueva arquitectura con VI. De la otra nada nos podría hacer pensar que fuera más que una GPU basada en la 7850 o 7870XT siendo positivos.
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Grinch escribió:Erchacho escribió:Digital Foundry: When you look at the specs of the GPU, it looks very much like Microsoft chose the AMD Bonaire design and Sony chose Pitcairn - and obviously one has got many more compute units than the other. Let's talk a little bit about the GPU - what AMD family is it based on: Southern Islands, Sea Islands, Volcanic Islands?
Andrew Goossen: Just like our friends we're based on the Sea Islands family. We've made quite a number of changes in different parts of the áreas.......
Pues ya sabemos que no es volcanic!!!! grande por MS.
Ya se sabia eso... a que viene la sorpresa ?
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Fonfo escribió:
Pero ya estamos otra vez con el mismo cuento de la fuente y el tamaño de la consola? Joer que cansinos que sois. ya se dijo que La potencia de la fuente es la adecuada para su consumo.
Digital Foundry revela que pronto se sabrá más del hardware de Xbox One
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La única pregunta a la que no quisieron responder los ingenieros de Microsoft a DF fue cuanto consumía la Xbox One en modo de carga.
Cosa que hasta ellos mismos lo ven raro.[/quote]
Horizonte de sucesos escribió:Fonfo escribió:
Pero ya estamos otra vez con el mismo cuento de la fuente y el tamaño de la consola? Joer que cansinos que sois. ya se dijo que La potencia de la fuente es la adecuada para su consumo.
Umm no estoy de acuerdo.Digital Foundry revela que pronto se sabrá más del hardware de Xbox One
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La única pregunta a la que no quisieron responder los ingenieros de Microsoft a DF fue cuanto consumía la Xbox One en modo de carga.
Cosa que hasta ellos mismos lo ven raro.
Ahora vamos a comparar hardware y consumos:
ALIENWARE M17R4
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienware- ... ew.75292.0.html
Con:
+I7 QM 2.3 GHz
+8GB DDR3 1600Mhz (xbox ONE 2133Mhz)
+ATI 7970M
+2GB GDDR5 1200 MHz (PS4 5500Mh)
+SSD 64GB
+HDD 2.5" 500GB 7200rpm
+1x USB 2.0
+4X USB 3.0
+Targeta de sonido Creative
+Bluetooth 4.0
+WIFI
+Webcam 2.1 Mega pixel con 2 micros
+ALTAVOCES
+PANTALLA de 17,3 pulgadas
+DVD
Tiene un consumo máximo de 166W, con una fuente de 250W y soporta hasta 32Gb de RAM sin cambiar la fuente.
Así que esperar unos 150W para ONE y este PC 166W pues mucho no cuadra, no podemos negarlo. Añade lo anterior de que no le han querido decir a DF cuanto consume la consola en carga.
Raro es joder.
Digital Foundry: So can you tell us how much power Xbox One takes from the wall, during gameplay for example?
Microsoft PR: That's not a figure we're disclosing at this time.
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maikthis escribió:http://download.gamespotcdn.com/d6/gsc/2013/10/169_ryse_ebxdemo_gp_au_100513_2800.mp4 miren este gameplay de Ryse
Yesterday in a neogaf“>Neogaf thread discussing the increase of GPU speed for the Xbox One, the topic at one point switched the the potential for advertising space on the Xbox One’s Dashboard. One poster asked for specific information regarding NUad. Microsoft’s director of product planning, Albert Panello responded to the request:
“Well I think there’s two things you’re asking. NuAds by definition is simply interactive advertising done on the platform. Using the functions of the console and Kinect to interact vs. just watching a spot. There’s nothing particularly interesting happening here unless you’re in the advertising business, and we’ve done a few on Xbox 360 today.
“What I think you’re asking about is an interview done earlier in the year where someone was talking about how some of the new Xbox One Kinect features *could* be used in advertising – since we can see expressions, engagement, etc. and how that might be used to target advertising. This is the point that seems to draw some controversy.
“First – nobody is working on that. We have a lot more interesting and pressing things to dedicate time towards. It was an interview done speculatively, and I’m not aware of any active work in this space.
“Second – if something like that ever happened, you can be sure it wouldn’t happen without the user having control over it. Period.
“Two examples of how we deal with similar things today:
“First, Kinect can recognize your face and log you in automatically. There could be some cool features we could enable if we stored that data in the cloud, like being able to be auto-recognized at a friend’s. I get asked for that feature a lot. But, for privacy reasons, your facial data doesn’t leave the console.
“Second: You’ll see us do some things around Skype that freezes the video when Skype is not in focus (meaning, it’s not the primary app). If you go back to the home screen, or launch another app, we actually stop the video stream. We do this so the user can’t even ACCIDENTALLY have the video stream going on in the background.
“I’ll say this – we take a lot of heat around stuff we’ve done and I can roll with it. Some of it is deserved. But preventing Kinect from being used inappropriately is something the team takes very seriously. Hope that helps.”
Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/microsoft-directo ... 0iw7yfK.99
Killer Weekend Update: Orchid Leaks And New Info
Every Thursday until the release of Killer Instinct for the Xbox One, Microsoft will be streaming the game on Twitch and answering questions in the stream chat. You can watch this week’s stream here and rest assured, I’ve got you covered with my highlights in case you can’t sit and watch the whole thing, yet still want to know about all the updates coming out for the game. There have been a lot of changes visually within the span of a week. Considering the game is still in the development stage, any of these changes are still subject to change. In this edition, we see a leak of Orchid’s character model (still subject to change) and a preview of her stage.
The character portraits next to the health bar have been changed. It used to be the character’s head coming out of a black circle with a gold trim that connected to the instinct meter, but that circle is now gone. The size of the character portrait now surpasses the height of the health bar and is closer to the top of the screen.
Story mode will not be implemented in the game until around March. Currently, there is a mode where you can battle the AI, but it isn’t the game’s story mode; it should be thought of as a simple battle mode. The opponents are randomized (much as an arcade ladder is, minus the boss) and there are difficulties to choose from. However, the difficulty increases as you climb the ladder to “ease your way into a challenge.”
The game features “Dojo” training mode. What this mode sets out to accomplish is to teach the player the technical aspects of the game. Most other training modes are just simple combo training which are “impractical” in most fights; they’re mostly there for flair, so to speak. However, Dojo mode teaches players the technical standpoint of how to play Killer Instinct such as what are openers, linkers, and enders, what are auto doubles and manuals, and anything else to step up your game. They showed the menu for Basic and Advanced tutorials but didn’t show us how they play out.
Rage quitting mid-match is frowned upon by the guys at Double Helix. Therefore, if you end the match prematurely, it will result in a loss. Unfortunately, there is no way to distinguish between disconnections and rage quits so disconnecting will also result in a loss.
Characters’ classic outfits also change the character model to be reminiscent of the model from the respective game. (For example, Jago’s costume will most likely be reminiscent of his original blue shredded outfit and the character model will change slightly as well. At least, that’s what it sounded like they meant.) For the newer characters who weren’t a part of the original Killer Instinct universe, they got creative for their classic costume and thought up a costume for how they would look if the character existed in the 80’s or 90’s.
Each costume has multiple accessory slots. Accessory pieces differ between costumes for each character. Jago’s accessories were used as an example. His mask, sword, and knee pads are all accessories for his costume. They are the 3 things that can be swapped out for whatever accessories you wish to put on him.
Character cameos from other Rare IPs won’t be implemented until at least 3 seasons in. This isn’t a confirmation that there absolutely will be character cameos, it is merely a time frame of when they’d consider putting these characters in the game. The example used was Banjo from Banjo Kazooie. They feel he’d be an extremely silly character for the game and would consider putting him (and any other “silly” characters) after the game has been established well enough to utilize them.
They are trying to maintain a balance between humanoid characters and non-humanoid characters. This being said raises a little hope that Riptor might be included in the game after all. They didn’t mention Riptor but we can only hope she’ll make an appearance. She was amazing in the original KI.
They’ve made it a point to make each character unique so that no two characters look or fight the same. Granted as the game continues to see the release of characters this task will become harder to remain true. However, their goal with (at least) the first two season is to have each character be a fresh experience.
The options menu allows the player to tinker with the following: Controller remap, Reposition HUD, Audio options and Display options. However, take these sub-menus with a grain of salt; considering the game isn’t completed these are subject to change.
The game has very fine details that can be seen only at a close look. A good example was Glacius holding his Hail move in the air and you could see the health bar through the ice ball.
That’s all for the gameplay updates. Now to get to what you more than likely really came here for: character updates including the Orchid character model and stage preview leak.
Shadow Jago is an extra character that is not part of the original 8 characters. What this means is that Shadow Jago is a playable character but he doesn’t take up a character slot from the original 8 characters that are to be initially released with the game. Whichever 8 they originally plan on releasing for the game will still be in the game. Shadow Jago is only available via a day one Xbox Live Gold Membership pre-order which can be found here.
Orchid has yet another new icon. Unfortunately, the developers still aren’t ready to reveal her yet. So no gameplay in the stream, still. Orchid’s stage, while not revealed entirely, is titled “Rebel Outpost.” Orchid still holds weapons, but it’s not the tonfa she was seen with in Killer Instinct 2. They’ve given her Cobra Spring Batons which are a more modern military weapon. They’re still electrified and glowing to keep the original feel of Orchid’s character models. Orchid’s move-set is similar to her moves in previous games. When asked if she still has her helicopter kick, they stated that they “paid homage” to how she originally played.
I know the character updates weren’t as vast as the gameplay updates. However, that will all be rectified with the screens I pulled from the stream. Not as many as last time but enough that you can see for yourself some of the updates listed above:
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CalvinWatterson escribió:Pero por mucho Jaguar, Puma, Volcanic o Southern que haya en las nuevas consolas... Que más daría, si ya han anunciado su rendimiento final en TFlops?
Ese número no va a cambiar...
....que algún técnico te lo explique tcnicamente maikthis escribió:http://download.gamespotcdn.com/d6/gsc/2013/10/169_ryse_ebxdemo_gp_au_100513_2800.mp4 miren este gameplay de Ryse
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![[tadoramo]](/images/smilies/adora.gif "Adorando")
![[buuuaaaa]](/images/smilies/nuevos/triste_ani3.gif "a lágrima viva")
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dicanio1 escribió:maikthis escribió:http://download.gamespotcdn.com/d6/gsc/2013/10/169_ryse_ebxdemo_gp_au_100513_2800.mp4 miren este gameplay de Ryse
Este no lo había visto...joder,es que es brutal el juego,mira que esta clase de juegos no me gustan,pero sólo por disfrutar de semejante apartado gráfico,al final no voy A poder resistirme a no pillarlo.
Impresionante
tanto hablar de potencia,pues es en los juegos donde se ve...parar de poner vídeos porque así se hace más difícil la espera
NucelarGen escribió:dicanio1 escribió:maikthis escribió:http://download.gamespotcdn.com/d6/gsc/2013/10/169_ryse_ebxdemo_gp_au_100513_2800.mp4 miren este gameplay de Ryse
Este no lo había visto...joder,es que es brutal el juego,mira que esta clase de juegos no me gustan,pero sólo por disfrutar de semejante apartado gráfico,al final no voy A poder resistirme a no pillarlo.
Impresionante
tanto hablar de potencia,pues es en los juegos donde se ve...parar de poner vídeos porque así se hace más difícil la espera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_iIdGxtFs
Mira lo entero
veronica_patricia escribió:
nucelar no decias que te ibas a desconectar asta poco antes de la salida de la next gen?
NucelarGen escribió:dicanio1 escribió:maikthis escribió:http://download.gamespotcdn.com/d6/gsc/2013/10/169_ryse_ebxdemo_gp_au_100513_2800.mp4 miren este gameplay de Ryse
Este no lo había visto...joder,es que es brutal el juego,mira que esta clase de juegos no me gustan,pero sólo por disfrutar de semejante apartado gráfico,al final no voy A poder resistirme a no pillarlo.
Impresionante
tanto hablar de potencia,pues es en los juegos donde se ve...parar de poner vídeos porque así se hace más difícil la espera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_iIdGxtFs
Mira lo entero
...nucelargen es accionista de crytek y fue diseñador en el crysis...porque si no no entiendo como se puede ser fan de crysis 
...es un truño de juego NucelarGen escribió:veronica_patricia escribió:
nucelar no decias que te ibas a desconectar asta poco antes de la salida de la next gen?
Pero veo que sin mi, os perdéis. Por? Molesto?
dicanio1 escribió:
NucelarGen escribió:dicanio1 escribió:
Nunca te lo perdonare
Vero
Parece mentira, que con los 2 días que llevo aquí y todavía no me conozcáis.
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, puto ryse de mierda lo quiero pillar de segundamno pero cada vez estoy más tentado 
naxeras escribió:A mi el juego que mas me gusta de los que ha presentado XONE es sin duda el Dead Rising 3.
La next gen hace evolucionar un montón el gameplay respecto a la segunda entrega.
El ryse lo veo como el típico juego corto en que tienes que hacer lo que te mandan y no puedes salirte de ahí, es decir jugabilidad de siempre con gráficos mejores.
Es una opinión claro.
Un Saludo.
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dicanio1 escribió:Creo que será un bluff...ya hay demasiados shooters en el mercado,además que será un juego parecido al btf y COD...a mi no me llama nada y no porque no pueda ser un gran juego,si no porque el btf ya te quita muchas horas,además esta también el destiny..
