[Hablemos de...] MMORPGs

CaronteGF escribió:Aquí todos ponemos a parir los juegos que creemos, y yo soy defensor del Darkfall (que tiene trabajo) y he sido bastante crítico con Mortal, pero he usado otro tono, tratando de evitar tacos y, si no argumentando, por lo menos opinando de una forma menos hiperbólica (Por lo de la muerte, que es por otro lado es un gran chiste).

De todos modos no hay que darle más importancia porque no creo que hayas venido en plan troll ni mucho menos.

Por cierto ¿Alguien tiene para la alpha de FFXIV? Me quedé sin probar el XI y me gustaría ver este.

Otra cosa, alguien anda en el Galaxies ahora? Tengo un més gratis que me gustaría usar antes de que sea demasiado tarde.

Si quieres jugar al galaxies yo me meteria en el swgemu, para ser lo que es es un producto de mucha calidad, que poco tiene que envidiar al actual estado del swg.
PotajiTo escribió:
CaronteGF escribió:Aquí todos ponemos a parir los juegos que creemos, y yo soy defensor del Darkfall (que tiene trabajo) y he sido bastante crítico con Mortal, pero he usado otro tono, tratando de evitar tacos y, si no argumentando, por lo menos opinando de una forma menos hiperbólica (Por lo de la muerte, que es por otro lado es un gran chiste).

De todos modos no hay que darle más importancia porque no creo que hayas venido en plan troll ni mucho menos.

Por cierto ¿Alguien tiene para la alpha de FFXIV? Me quedé sin probar el XI y me gustaría ver este.

Otra cosa, alguien anda en el Galaxies ahora? Tengo un més gratis que me gustaría usar antes de que sea demasiado tarde.

Si quieres jugar al galaxies yo me meteria en el swgemu, para ser lo que es es un producto de mucha calidad, que poco tiene que envidiar al actual estado del swg.


Ya se le puede llamar jugable? skills, mobs, lvls, dungeons? y crafting?

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Yo he desistido de ir probando nada nuevo. De momento seguiré con el WoW hasta que termine el verano y a partir de ahí, dependiendo de cuándo salga el Final Fantasy XIV jugaré al LOTRO (que tengo el juego comprado por 2 duros desde hace meses) o jugare offline. Después del FFXIV, si me agrada, sabré dónde estaré los siguientes meses, si no es posible que deje los MMORPGs por una buena temporada.
Por que le teneis tanto miedo al Eve, no se, parte que recopnozcos que echo de menos un poco de accion en modo fantasia pero bueno que no se, es el primer MMO en mucho tiempo en el que llevo una jodida barbaridad de horas, y es que por ahora lo unico que estoy haciendo es minar, que teoricamente es lo más aburrido que te puedes echar a la cara... Ya ni digamos si me meto, cuando yaq tenga algo más de pasta a subir skills de PvP y empezar ha hacer misiones chulas y ir a petar naves a gente.
En serio, no cuesta nada probarlo y mira que yo lo intente varias veces y al final, es que no se no lo cambio por nada, ni por algo que me encanta, el instanceo del wow, con el nuevo sistema, no se, fue recien renovada mi cuenta del WoW, se hablo mucho del Eve y tal, y teniendo un vicio enorme en el WoW, descargue la trial del eve y bueno basta ver mi cuenta del xfire.
ZeTaKa escribió:Por que le teneis tanto miedo al Eve, no se, parte que recopnozcos que echo de menos un poco de accion en modo fantasia pero bueno que no se, es el primer MMO en mucho tiempo en el que llevo una jodida barbaridad de horas, y es que por ahora lo unico que estoy haciendo es minar, que teoricamente es lo más aburrido que te puedes echar a la cara... Ya ni digamos si me meto, cuando yaq tenga algo más de pasta a subir skills de PvP y empezar ha hacer misiones chulas y ir a petar naves a gente.
En serio, no cuesta nada probarlo y mira que yo lo intente varias veces y al final, es que no se no lo cambio por nada, ni por algo que me encanta, el instanceo del wow, con el nuevo sistema, no se, fue recien renovada mi cuenta del WoW, se hablo mucho del Eve y tal, y teniendo un vicio enorme en el WoW, descargue la trial del eve y bueno basta ver mi cuenta del xfire.


No es miedo, en mi caso suele ser paciencia, me pierdo en el salto de terminal el tutorial al siguiente que es ir haciendo lo que quieras. Supongo que es por lo distinto que es al resto de los mmorpgs.

Por cierto, viendo el hilo del APB realmente pensaba que no había NDA y estaba muy equivocado:
PLEASE REMEMBER THE NDA: Posting videos and screenshots as well as discussing the BETA outside of the forums is a BREACH OF THE NDA. You can find you more information here. To report a NDA violation contact support@apb.com


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ZeTaKa escribió:Por que le teneis tanto miedo al Eve, no se, parte que recopnozcos que echo de menos un poco de accion en modo fantasia pero bueno que no se, es el primer MMO en mucho tiempo en el que llevo una jodida barbaridad de horas, y es que por ahora lo unico que estoy haciendo es minar, que teoricamente es lo más aburrido que te puedes echar a la cara... Ya ni digamos si me meto, cuando yaq tenga algo más de pasta a subir skills de PvP y empezar ha hacer misiones chulas y ir a petar naves a gente.
En serio, no cuesta nada probarlo y mira que yo lo intente varias veces y al final, es que no se no lo cambio por nada, ni por algo que me encanta, el instanceo del wow, con el nuevo sistema, no se, fue recien renovada mi cuenta del WoW, se hablo mucho del Eve y tal, y teniendo un vicio enorme en el WoW, descargue la trial del eve y bueno basta ver mi cuenta del xfire.


Yo tengo un EVE Comprado y sin el mes usado, el problema que tengo es que durante el curso no quiero poner a jugar a un juego así, porque no me voy a enterar de nada. Espero tener más tiempo en verano y poder jugar esos 51 días gratis y así aprender lo necesario. Después de eso espero poder mantenerme firmemente en el juego, tras mas de un año de pruebas esporádicas de esto y lo otro.
Bueno pues estoy pensando el volver a los mmorpg despues de haberlo dejado hace algu tiempo, lo ultimo que jugue fue el wow. Normalmente dispongo de un par de horas al dia para jugar, entre 2 y 4 y habra dias que ni pueda, pero vamos que no puedo estar todos los dias 6 horas. Estoy descargando el eve para probarlo los 14 dias gratis a ver que tal esta. Alguna idea? Graciass
Volador escribió:Bueno pues estoy pensando el volver a los mmorpg despues de haberlo dejado hace algu tiempo, lo ultimo que jugue fue el wow. Normalmente dispongo de un par de horas al dia para jugar, entre 2 y 4 y habra dias que ni pueda, pero vamos que no puedo estar todos los dias 6 horas. Estoy descargando el eve para probarlo los 14 dias gratis a ver que tal esta. Alguna idea? Graciass


Si vas a jugar al Eve OLVIDA todo lo que sabes de WoW. es algo que no tiene nada que ver.

Fallen Eath se pone las pilas. Veo que en breve lanzará el Sector 4, y comentan que tiene mas de 150 quest. Además la zona contiene ciudades abandonadas y más decorado, que lo típico del oeste ya cansaba un poco. No cabe duda que van por el buen camino.
He estado dandole al eve y no me acaba de llenar del todo. Alguna otra sugerencia de mmorpg? aunque parece ser que hay algunos buenos que llegaran pronto ¿no?
Volador escribió:He estado dandole al eve y no me acaba de llenar del todo. Alguna otra sugerencia de mmorpg? aunque parece ser que hay algunos buenos que llegaran pronto ¿no?


Curiosamente, o no, todos los que van a venir siempre parecen la panacea y luego al final nos quedamos igual.

Eve es muy distinto, es normal que te pase eso.

Salu2
haz la trial del Fallen Earth, renovaras :D
IronArthur escribió:
Volador escribió:He estado dandole al eve y no me acaba de llenar del todo. Alguna otra sugerencia de mmorpg? aunque parece ser que hay algunos buenos que llegaran pronto ¿no?


Curiosamente, o no, todos los que van a venir siempre parecen la panacea y luego al final nos quedamos igual.

Eve es muy distinto, es normal que te pase eso.

Salu2


Ciertamente, todos parecen que van a romper el mercado y al final se evaporan , pasan como uno mas... y creo que los que vienen va a pasar lo mismo. No veo nada en el horizonte rompedor (bueno, para mi el ffxiv, pero creo que es algo personal, no creo que llegue muy lejos sinceramente.).
Voy a probar el Fallen Earth, alguna indicacion donde buscar españoles? ;)
Filtrado manual "Alfa" para betatesters de Final Fantasy.

entero en ingles lo meto en spokiler por bulto
FINAL FANTASY XIV Alpha Test Manual

FINAL FANTASY XIV is a cross-nation, cross-platform massively multi-player online role-playing game (MMORPG) that brings together people from all across the world to compete, cooperate, and communicate within the virtual fantasy realm known as Eorzea. While solo adventuring is always an option, most will agree that joining forces with their fellow gamers not only makes the game that much easier, but that much more fun as well!

* The Alpha/Beta versions contain only a fraction of what is planned in the full version. This includes playable races and clans, character customization options, selectable classes, and available areas, to name a few.

1. After logging in, select "New" from the Character Selection screen.
2. Select your character's race, clan, and gender.
3. Choose a preset appearance for your character.
4. Customize various aspects of your character's appearance via the available menus.
5. Select your character's starting class*.
6. Select your character's nameday (birthday) and guardian (patron deity).
7. Input your character's first and last name.
8. Select the city-state in which you wish to begin your adventure.
9. Finally, select "Enter" to create your character and begin the game.

* Classes

In FINAL FANTASY XIV, a player's class is determined by the arm or tool in his/her hand. The class chosen during character creation simply determines the items a player begins the game with. Players can change their class at any time by simply equipping different items they purchase, find, or create.

- Note

In the Alpha Version, a character's race, clan, gender, nameday, and guardian do not affect his/her attributes.
At the onset of the game, you will find yourself on a boat, though at this point your character is already within what is called an instanced area, meaning it will not be occupied by any other players.

* Instanced areas, or instances, are areas in which only players directly related to or involved in what happens within may enter. The initial stages of gameplay in the Alpha Test will take place in instanced areas which only single players may occupy.
Instances will only be used for special events, such as the game's opening sequence. For the most part, gameplay will take place within public areas occupied by any of a number of players.

As you progress through the opening event, the ship will eventually make port. After arriving, speak to the NPC Hob, who will be located directly ahead of you. At certain points in the game, Hob will present you with a list of options in accordance with your progress. For now, select the option presented to continue through the current event.

After speaking with NPC Hob and proceeding to the location to which you have been directed, there will be another NPC named Baderon who will present you with another set of options. After speaking to Baderon, you will automatically be transported from to a public area.

In public areas you will come across many other players. As fellow adventurers, it is up to you to make the most of your time in Eorzea together!




1. Display Name

The color of a display name reveals important information.

White – Other PCs
Blue – Party members
Green – NPCs
Yellow – Enemies
Red – Engaged enemies

* Semi-Transparent Display Names
When the display name of a PC is semi-transparent, it indicates that player is currently in a different area than you. These PCs are still displayed on-screen to help contribute to the seamless transitioning between areas. However, players should note that party invites cannot be extended across areas.

2. Minimap
The minimap displays the immediate vicinity around you, the direction you are facing, the direction the camera is facing, and the position of various NPCs.

3. Log
This display contains all of the various logs used to display text within the game, such as the system log, combat log, and chat log. Players may input text by selecting the chat prompt area.

4. Unit Frame
The unit frame displays various aspects of your character's status, such as HP, MP, and TP.

5. Connection Status




1. Action Bar

This bar displays the various commands available for use in relation to the PC or NPC you are currently targeting.

2. Action Gauge

This gauge tells how much time is left before the next action may be executed. Though there are a few exceptions, for the most part all attacks, abilities, weapon skills, and spells require that the action gauge be full.

For certain classes, a secondary action gauge will appear when a shield is equipped in the off hand. All shield-related commands will make use of this gauge.

The action gauges of the main hand and off hand are entirely independent of one another. Should a character have a shield equipped in their off hand, two action gauges will be displayed simultaneously.

3. Effect Gauge

The effect gauge comes to life once the action gauge has completely filled. When a command is executed, the state of the effect gauge will determine certain bonuses to factors such as accuracy, power, or potency. These bonuses apply to all actions, both physical and magical.

- Other
- Passive Mode and Active Mode

"Passive Mode" is the designation given to the state in which a player's arm or tool is not drawn. In this mode, hit points regenerate automatically.

"Active Mode" refers to the state in which a player's arm or tool is drawn. In this mode, various battle commands are available, but movement speed is reduced in comparison to passive mode.

- Arms and Tools

There are a vast array of arms and tools in FINAL FANTASY XIV which allow players to assume the role of any of a number of classes. However, the following conditions should be kept in mind when changing equipment.

Equipping Arms – Players must be in passive mode and not engaged with an enemy.
Equipping Tools – Players must be in passive mode.

During the Alpha Test phase, there will be a total of nine types of arms and tools available (swords, hand-to-hand weapons, axes, polearms, bows, conjurer arms, thaumaturge arms, hammers, and pickaxes). Players can change their class simply by virtue of changing the arm or tool they have equipped in their hand.

The Flow of Battle

1. Ready an arm or tool, changing from passive mode to active mode.
2. Target an enemy.
3. Select a command from the action bar, and make use of the action and effect gauges to execute it effectively.
4. Strategize with other party members, deciding upon an appropriate Battle Regimen*.
5. Gain victory in battle to be rewarded with experience and skill points.
6. Obtain and distribute any loot dropped by the enemy.

* Battle Regimen

Battle Regimens are combat tactics which party members may employ against a single enemy. By coordinating and executing battle commands in a precise order, players may cause certain additional beneficial effects to occur.

A Battle Regimen begins with the stacking of battle commands. All party members who wish to take part in the Battle Regimen must stack their actions in the correct order against the desired target. One of the members then initiates the Battle Regimen, and the stacked actions will be executed automatically.

Step 1: Consult with other party members to determine the best Battle Regimen to use against a specific target. The battle commands and the order in which they are to be executed should all be decided.

Step 2: Wait until your position in the queue comes around to switch to Battle Regimen mode and select the battle command you wish to stack.

Step 3: After all participating party members have stacked their battle commands, one of the party members selects to initiate the Battle Regimen.

Step 4: Once the Battle Regimen is initiated, the stacked battle commands will all be executed automatically, chaining together to create additional effects.

Please note that factors such as distance from the enemy may prevent stacked battle commands from being executed once the Battle Regimen is initiated. In these cases, the Battle Regimen will not end, but will instead proceed on to the next command in the queue.

Enemy Toughness

An enemy's degree of difficulty is represented by the color of the circle located in the extreme left portion of the unit frame. This display takes into account whether the player is solo or a member of a party.

Red – Incredibly Tough
Orange – Very Tough
Yellow – Tough
Green – Decent Challenge
Blue – Easy Prey

Physical Levels and Skill Ranks

In FINAL FANTASY XIV, a character's progress is measured in two ways. Physical levels represent one's actual physical development, while skill ranks measure how adept one is with various arms and tools.

- Physical Levels

Characters gain physical levels by accumulating a certain amount of experience points.

(During the Alpha Test phase, experience points will be obtainable only by achieving victory in battle.)

- Skill Ranks

Skill ranks are gained by accumulating skill points from various endeavors, such as combat or crafting. As a character's skill rank increases, they will learn new actions, such as abilities and weapon skills.

* Physical level and skill rank caps will be set at 20 for the Alpha Test Phase.

Setting Actions for Use

Actions that have been acquired by a character can be set to the action bar for use. During the Alpha Test phase, the maximum number of actions available at any given time will be limited to 20.

Barring a few class-specific exceptions, actions will be available for use even when using a class different from the one on which the action learned. However, the power and efficacy of each action is determined by its affinity with the character's active skill.

The Spoils of War

Any items received after a battle will be placed in a player's loot list. During party play, items are distributed randomly to the lists of each member.

After a certain period of time, items on a loot list will be automatically moved to a player's inventory. Should the player's inventory be full, the items will be lost.

Items on a loot list are not considered in a player's possession until they are added to his/her inventory. Until then, any items, including those which are rare (untradeable) and unique (players can possess no more than one), can be transferred to another party member's list.

* Items received while mining/quarrying will also be added to the loot list before being moved to a player's inventory.

If a character's HP is reduced to 0, he/she will be "knocked out" and no longer able to move or act. A character can be revived by selecting "Return" from the main menu and choosing a destination from the listed aetheryte camps or aetherial gates.

* If a character is KO'd while participating in a levequest, he/she will be teleported back to the corresponding aetheryte.
* For the duration of the Alpha Test, characters KO'd will receive a weakness penalty which will not only lower total HP, but also reduce the speed with which their action gauge fills, as well as increase the length of casting times. This penalty will last five minutes before wearing off.

Rifts along the surface of Hydaelyn can cause "leaks" from which the planet's lifeblood, aether, can escape. By harnessing the power from concentrated deposits known as "aetheryte," the residents of Eorzea have seen a marked improvement in everyday life. Below is a list of the three most common types of aetheryte, and their benefits.

Aetheryte Crystals

Located in towns and camps, these giant crystalline objects are most often used as the starting places of levequests, due to their accessibility.

Upon approaching an aetheryte crystal, an Aetheryte option will appear. Selecting this will automatically do four things:

1. Restore all HP and MP.
2. Set the aetheryte as your home point (to where you will return when warping).
3. Register the location to your teleport list (first visit only), thereby allowing you to teleport to that aetheryte whenever you choose.
4. Give you the option to begin any levequests in your possession originating from that location.


Aetherial Gates

Aetherial gates are permanent discharges of aether located in various places around Eorzea. While not as concentrated as aetheryte crystals, the gates can still be used to instantly restore HP and MP, and set your home point.



Aetherial Nodes

Aetherial nodes are temporary phenomena which usually appear only after completing a levequest. They can be used to teleport instantly back to the aetheryte crystal at which a player began that quest. Only players who took part in the levequest can access the nodes, which will fade if not used promptly.




Players can return to their previously set home points at any time by selecting the Return option from the main menu. However, if a player is participating in a levequest, selecting this option at that time will result in teleportation back to the aetheryte crystal or aetherial gate used to activate the quest. The Return command can also be used while KO'd to revive your character.

By selecting Teleport from the main menu, a player can teleport their entire party to any aetheryte crystal location they have already visited. When one party member uses the Teleport option, a confirmation button will be sent to all other members, allowing them to decide whether or not they also wish to be teleported.

*Please note, both the Return and Teleport options can only be used when in passive mode.

To log out of FINAL FANTASY XIV and exit the game, select Logout from the main menu. The logout process requires 30 seconds to complete and can be cancelled at any time by inputting another command.

*Please note, players cannot log out while in active mode.


1. Region: The name of the region currently being displayed.

2. Area: The name of the area currently being displayed within the above-mentioned region.

3. Camp: The name of the aetheryte camp presiding over the current area.

4. Aetheryte camp location.

5. Player's current position and directional bearing.

6. Aetherial gate location.

7. Map Menu Button: Select Change Map to view other acquired maps. Players can keep track of the quests they have accepted by viewing the Journal found in the main menu. Clicking on the header will bring up the following options: Levequests (Regional and Local) and Quests (Class Quests). Select the corresponding category to view all related journal entries.

* Please observe general online manners and etiquette when communicating with others.

Chat Modes

[Say]

Any message input in the say chat mode can be seen by any and all players in the immediate vicinity. It is the default chat mode, and messages displayed in this manner will appear in white. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with either /say or simply /s. In addition, the active chat mode may be set to say mode by entering the command /say without a message following.

[Party]

Any message input in the party chat mode can be seen by any and all party members. Messages displayed in this manner appear in blue. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with /party or simply /p. In addition, the active chat mode may be set to party mode by entering the command /party without a following message.

[Tell]

Any message input in the tell chat mode can be seen only by a single designated player. Messages displayed in this manner appear in pink. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with /tell or simply /t . The active chat mode cannot be set to tell mode. During the Alpha Test phase, PC names must be entered in their entirety (first and last names).

[Shout]

Shout chat mode is much like say chat mode, with the sole difference being that messages can be seen by players in a much wider area. Messages displayed in this manner appear in light pink. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with either /shout or simply /sh. The active chat mode cannot be set to shout mode.

Examples of Chat Commands



* All commands must begin with a / (forward slash) and contain only half-width characters.

Emotes

Emotes are a collection of expressions and gestures that can be used to convey the emotional state of your character. The emote menu is bound to the E key in the default keyboard setup, and can also be accessed by selecting the second icon from the right on the action bar. By forming a party with others, players will be able to defeat monsters and complete guildleves of a difficulty unthinkable to the solo adventurer. A single party may contain up to 15 characters.

Forming a Party

To form a party, simply target and select the player that you wish to invite, and then select the Invite option that appears. If your invitation is accepted, the party will be formed automatically, with the person who sent the initial invitation becoming the party leader. The leader is the only member of the party who can invite additional members.

* Players who are already in a party cannot be invited.

Accepting a Party Invite

If another player invites you to a party, a Join party? button will appear on your screen. Select this to bring up a prompt displaying the options of Yes, No, and Cancel. Choose Yes to accept the invitation.

Party Commands

- Promote

The Promote command allows players to change the party leader. It may only be carried out by the current party leader.

- Oust

The Oust command allows players to remove members from a party. It may only be carried out by the current party leader.

- Leave

The Leave command allows players to disband from a party.

Once a Party is Formed

Following the formation of a party, the unit frames of all party members will be displayed together in the lower right portion of the screen. The party leader will be designated by the presence of a yellow diamond to the immediate left of the leader's name.



The Trade command allows you to exchange items and gil with other players.

1. To initiate a trade, simply target and select a player, and then select the Trade option that appears.

* The recipient of a trade request will be see an Accept Trade? button. Selecting this will present the player with the options of Yes, No, and Cancel. Choose Yes to accept the request.

2. Accepting a trade request will automatically open the trade window.
3. Both players set the items and/or gil they wish to exchange in the trade slots provided.
4. Select Accept to complete the trade process.

* Selecting Cancel will abort the trade entirely.





Bazaars afford players the ability to sell and purchase items to and from one another. A player who has a bazaar set up will have the bazaar icon displayed next to that player's name.

Operating Your Bazaar

A player's bazaar can be set up to contain the items that player wishes to sell to others.

1. From the main menu, open the Item List and then select the Bazaar option. Highlight the item that you wish to sell, and then press Bazaar again.
2. In the window that follows, set the unit price at which you wish to sell your item(s).

* Note that 5% of the designated unit price will be taken as tax when the item sells. For example, an item being sold in a bazaar for 100 gil will require the purchasing player to pay 100 gil, but the player selling the item will receive only 95 gil from the transaction.

3. Having items in your bazaar purchased by other players will result in the gil being automatically added to your inventory.

Browsing Bazaars

By browsing the bazaars of others, players can purchase items.

1. Target and select a player with a bazaar and press the Browse button that appears. Then select the Selling option to view the items that player has up for sale.
2. Select the item you wish to purchase to complete the transaction.UI

Q: Can I undo attribute points already allocated?

A: With great power comes great responsibility. The Twelve have deemed you unworthy of that responsibility (at this time).

Battle

Q: I've arrived in Limsa Lominsa and watched the event scene with Baderon, the potty-mouthed proprietor of the Drowning Wench. What do I do next?

A: Access your Journal from the main menu. Select Class Quests to view a log of all that has transpired, as well as what lies immediately ahead on your path to adventure.

Q: My weapon is drawn, why isn't that plague rat DEAD!?

A: Just as Van Ghoh could have never painted a single sunflower without clicking the Paint button in his action menu, an adventurer cannot thrust, swing, or throw her weapon until the corresponding button is clicked.

Q: Do blacksmiths and miners have any battle options other than throwing stones?

A: Not during the Alpha/Beta tests. Though perhaps through prayer will the Twelve one day grant the Disciples of the Land and the Hand with new ways to fell Eorzea's nasty beasties.

Items

Q: Why can't I fight barehanded?

A: Because the Twelve do not wish it. Eorzean adventurers must have a weapon or tool equipped at all times.

Q: Where can I learn synthesis recipes? I tried copying the recipes introduced in certain levequests, but was told I do not have the crystal required for starting the synthesis.

A: Synthesis recipes are as elusive as the answers to questions such as the meaning of life and our purpose here on Hydaelyn. They must be sought for, and only the diligent shall be rewarded.

While normal synthesis requires the correct combination of crystal type and amount, levequest synthesis is often simplified, with the quest clients providing adventurers with crystals, thus their absence from the levequest recipes.

Q: How do I obtain crystals?

A: Crystalline manifestations of the planet's aether are rare, but under special circumstances will form within the bodies of certain creatures. It is up to you to get those crystals out...

Other

Q: Where can I synthesize items?

A: If your current class is one of the Disciples of the Hand, you can perform synthesis anywhere your heart desires.

Q: Where can I mine/quarry?

A: All miners have the ability to uncover the rough locations of mining and quarry points via their Prospect and Lithoscan abilities.

Q: I've found a Quarry Point, but I can't quarry!

A: Ah, but do you have a knapping hammer equipped as a secondary arm?

Q: I cannot synthesize with my secondary tool!

A: Ah, but do you have a file equipped as a secondary arm?

Q: I've fallen into a rift in the planet's surface and cannot escape! Whatever should I do?

A: The Land is a treacherous place, littered hither and yon with crevices, chasms, and bottomless pits, all waiting to consume the unsuspecting passerby. If you find yourself stuck in one of these not-so-proverbial ruts, simply open up your main menu and select Return to warp back to your home point.


traduzco algunas cosita que me llaman la atencion.

  • La clase esta determinada por el arma o herramienta en la mano. La clase elegida en la creacion de char, solo indica el equipo con el que empiezas. Cambias de clase cambiando el arma equipada.
  • va a haber zonas instanciadas (intancia como copia de zona con numero limitado de gente) "para eventos especiales". la zona inicial del juego (¿tutorial?) es una instancia de Uno
  • hay Zonas, pero la transicion de una a otra es sin "zonear" (exteriores de wow, p.ej)
  • el "battle Regimen" es la solucion de combate de grupo entretenido (la estrella de Lotro, los limites de ffxi, etc) parece denso
  • physical levels vs skillranks... los personajes ganan "physical levels" con experiencia (matando bichos), los skillranks parece que por uso, y es lo que delimita que acciones (spells) tienes.
  • pedrolos magicos : curan, bindean, teleportan y dan quests. la leche :P `parece que no va a haber mucho viaje despues de la primera vez.

ploki escribió:Filtrado manual "Alfa" para betatesters de Final Fantasy.

entero en ingles lo meto en spokiler por bulto
FINAL FANTASY XIV Alpha Test Manual

FINAL FANTASY XIV is a cross-nation, cross-platform massively multi-player online role-playing game (MMORPG) that brings together people from all across the world to compete, cooperate, and communicate within the virtual fantasy realm known as Eorzea. While solo adventuring is always an option, most will agree that joining forces with their fellow gamers not only makes the game that much easier, but that much more fun as well!

* The Alpha/Beta versions contain only a fraction of what is planned in the full version. This includes playable races and clans, character customization options, selectable classes, and available areas, to name a few.

1. After logging in, select "New" from the Character Selection screen.
2. Select your character's race, clan, and gender.
3. Choose a preset appearance for your character.
4. Customize various aspects of your character's appearance via the available menus.
5. Select your character's starting class*.
6. Select your character's nameday (birthday) and guardian (patron deity).
7. Input your character's first and last name.
8. Select the city-state in which you wish to begin your adventure.
9. Finally, select "Enter" to create your character and begin the game.

* Classes

In FINAL FANTASY XIV, a player's class is determined by the arm or tool in his/her hand. The class chosen during character creation simply determines the items a player begins the game with. Players can change their class at any time by simply equipping different items they purchase, find, or create.

- Note

In the Alpha Version, a character's race, clan, gender, nameday, and guardian do not affect his/her attributes.
At the onset of the game, you will find yourself on a boat, though at this point your character is already within what is called an instanced area, meaning it will not be occupied by any other players.

* Instanced areas, or instances, are areas in which only players directly related to or involved in what happens within may enter. The initial stages of gameplay in the Alpha Test will take place in instanced areas which only single players may occupy.
Instances will only be used for special events, such as the game's opening sequence. For the most part, gameplay will take place within public areas occupied by any of a number of players.

As you progress through the opening event, the ship will eventually make port. After arriving, speak to the NPC Hob, who will be located directly ahead of you. At certain points in the game, Hob will present you with a list of options in accordance with your progress. For now, select the option presented to continue through the current event.

After speaking with NPC Hob and proceeding to the location to which you have been directed, there will be another NPC named Baderon who will present you with another set of options. After speaking to Baderon, you will automatically be transported from to a public area.

In public areas you will come across many other players. As fellow adventurers, it is up to you to make the most of your time in Eorzea together!




1. Display Name

The color of a display name reveals important information.

White – Other PCs
Blue – Party members
Green – NPCs
Yellow – Enemies
Red – Engaged enemies

* Semi-Transparent Display Names
When the display name of a PC is semi-transparent, it indicates that player is currently in a different area than you. These PCs are still displayed on-screen to help contribute to the seamless transitioning between areas. However, players should note that party invites cannot be extended across areas.

2. Minimap
The minimap displays the immediate vicinity around you, the direction you are facing, the direction the camera is facing, and the position of various NPCs.

3. Log
This display contains all of the various logs used to display text within the game, such as the system log, combat log, and chat log. Players may input text by selecting the chat prompt area.

4. Unit Frame
The unit frame displays various aspects of your character's status, such as HP, MP, and TP.

5. Connection Status




1. Action Bar

This bar displays the various commands available for use in relation to the PC or NPC you are currently targeting.

2. Action Gauge

This gauge tells how much time is left before the next action may be executed. Though there are a few exceptions, for the most part all attacks, abilities, weapon skills, and spells require that the action gauge be full.

For certain classes, a secondary action gauge will appear when a shield is equipped in the off hand. All shield-related commands will make use of this gauge.

The action gauges of the main hand and off hand are entirely independent of one another. Should a character have a shield equipped in their off hand, two action gauges will be displayed simultaneously.

3. Effect Gauge

The effect gauge comes to life once the action gauge has completely filled. When a command is executed, the state of the effect gauge will determine certain bonuses to factors such as accuracy, power, or potency. These bonuses apply to all actions, both physical and magical.

- Other
- Passive Mode and Active Mode

"Passive Mode" is the designation given to the state in which a player's arm or tool is not drawn. In this mode, hit points regenerate automatically.

"Active Mode" refers to the state in which a player's arm or tool is drawn. In this mode, various battle commands are available, but movement speed is reduced in comparison to passive mode.

- Arms and Tools

There are a vast array of arms and tools in FINAL FANTASY XIV which allow players to assume the role of any of a number of classes. However, the following conditions should be kept in mind when changing equipment.

Equipping Arms – Players must be in passive mode and not engaged with an enemy.
Equipping Tools – Players must be in passive mode.

During the Alpha Test phase, there will be a total of nine types of arms and tools available (swords, hand-to-hand weapons, axes, polearms, bows, conjurer arms, thaumaturge arms, hammers, and pickaxes). Players can change their class simply by virtue of changing the arm or tool they have equipped in their hand.

The Flow of Battle

1. Ready an arm or tool, changing from passive mode to active mode.
2. Target an enemy.
3. Select a command from the action bar, and make use of the action and effect gauges to execute it effectively.
4. Strategize with other party members, deciding upon an appropriate Battle Regimen*.
5. Gain victory in battle to be rewarded with experience and skill points.
6. Obtain and distribute any loot dropped by the enemy.

* Battle Regimen

Battle Regimens are combat tactics which party members may employ against a single enemy. By coordinating and executing battle commands in a precise order, players may cause certain additional beneficial effects to occur.

A Battle Regimen begins with the stacking of battle commands. All party members who wish to take part in the Battle Regimen must stack their actions in the correct order against the desired target. One of the members then initiates the Battle Regimen, and the stacked actions will be executed automatically.

Step 1: Consult with other party members to determine the best Battle Regimen to use against a specific target. The battle commands and the order in which they are to be executed should all be decided.

Step 2: Wait until your position in the queue comes around to switch to Battle Regimen mode and select the battle command you wish to stack.

Step 3: After all participating party members have stacked their battle commands, one of the party members selects to initiate the Battle Regimen.

Step 4: Once the Battle Regimen is initiated, the stacked battle commands will all be executed automatically, chaining together to create additional effects.

Please note that factors such as distance from the enemy may prevent stacked battle commands from being executed once the Battle Regimen is initiated. In these cases, the Battle Regimen will not end, but will instead proceed on to the next command in the queue.

Enemy Toughness

An enemy's degree of difficulty is represented by the color of the circle located in the extreme left portion of the unit frame. This display takes into account whether the player is solo or a member of a party.

Red – Incredibly Tough
Orange – Very Tough
Yellow – Tough
Green – Decent Challenge
Blue – Easy Prey

Physical Levels and Skill Ranks

In FINAL FANTASY XIV, a character's progress is measured in two ways. Physical levels represent one's actual physical development, while skill ranks measure how adept one is with various arms and tools.

- Physical Levels

Characters gain physical levels by accumulating a certain amount of experience points.

(During the Alpha Test phase, experience points will be obtainable only by achieving victory in battle.)

- Skill Ranks

Skill ranks are gained by accumulating skill points from various endeavors, such as combat or crafting. As a character's skill rank increases, they will learn new actions, such as abilities and weapon skills.

* Physical level and skill rank caps will be set at 20 for the Alpha Test Phase.

Setting Actions for Use

Actions that have been acquired by a character can be set to the action bar for use. During the Alpha Test phase, the maximum number of actions available at any given time will be limited to 20.

Barring a few class-specific exceptions, actions will be available for use even when using a class different from the one on which the action learned. However, the power and efficacy of each action is determined by its affinity with the character's active skill.

The Spoils of War

Any items received after a battle will be placed in a player's loot list. During party play, items are distributed randomly to the lists of each member.

After a certain period of time, items on a loot list will be automatically moved to a player's inventory. Should the player's inventory be full, the items will be lost.

Items on a loot list are not considered in a player's possession until they are added to his/her inventory. Until then, any items, including those which are rare (untradeable) and unique (players can possess no more than one), can be transferred to another party member's list.

* Items received while mining/quarrying will also be added to the loot list before being moved to a player's inventory.

If a character's HP is reduced to 0, he/she will be "knocked out" and no longer able to move or act. A character can be revived by selecting "Return" from the main menu and choosing a destination from the listed aetheryte camps or aetherial gates.

* If a character is KO'd while participating in a levequest, he/she will be teleported back to the corresponding aetheryte.
* For the duration of the Alpha Test, characters KO'd will receive a weakness penalty which will not only lower total HP, but also reduce the speed with which their action gauge fills, as well as increase the length of casting times. This penalty will last five minutes before wearing off.

Rifts along the surface of Hydaelyn can cause "leaks" from which the planet's lifeblood, aether, can escape. By harnessing the power from concentrated deposits known as "aetheryte," the residents of Eorzea have seen a marked improvement in everyday life. Below is a list of the three most common types of aetheryte, and their benefits.

Aetheryte Crystals

Located in towns and camps, these giant crystalline objects are most often used as the starting places of levequests, due to their accessibility.

Upon approaching an aetheryte crystal, an Aetheryte option will appear. Selecting this will automatically do four things:

1. Restore all HP and MP.
2. Set the aetheryte as your home point (to where you will return when warping).
3. Register the location to your teleport list (first visit only), thereby allowing you to teleport to that aetheryte whenever you choose.
4. Give you the option to begin any levequests in your possession originating from that location.


Aetherial Gates

Aetherial gates are permanent discharges of aether located in various places around Eorzea. While not as concentrated as aetheryte crystals, the gates can still be used to instantly restore HP and MP, and set your home point.



Aetherial Nodes

Aetherial nodes are temporary phenomena which usually appear only after completing a levequest. They can be used to teleport instantly back to the aetheryte crystal at which a player began that quest. Only players who took part in the levequest can access the nodes, which will fade if not used promptly.




Players can return to their previously set home points at any time by selecting the Return option from the main menu. However, if a player is participating in a levequest, selecting this option at that time will result in teleportation back to the aetheryte crystal or aetherial gate used to activate the quest. The Return command can also be used while KO'd to revive your character.

By selecting Teleport from the main menu, a player can teleport their entire party to any aetheryte crystal location they have already visited. When one party member uses the Teleport option, a confirmation button will be sent to all other members, allowing them to decide whether or not they also wish to be teleported.

*Please note, both the Return and Teleport options can only be used when in passive mode.

To log out of FINAL FANTASY XIV and exit the game, select Logout from the main menu. The logout process requires 30 seconds to complete and can be cancelled at any time by inputting another command.

*Please note, players cannot log out while in active mode.


1. Region: The name of the region currently being displayed.

2. Area: The name of the area currently being displayed within the above-mentioned region.

3. Camp: The name of the aetheryte camp presiding over the current area.

4. Aetheryte camp location.

5. Player's current position and directional bearing.

6. Aetherial gate location.

7. Map Menu Button: Select Change Map to view other acquired maps. Players can keep track of the quests they have accepted by viewing the Journal found in the main menu. Clicking on the header will bring up the following options: Levequests (Regional and Local) and Quests (Class Quests). Select the corresponding category to view all related journal entries.

* Please observe general online manners and etiquette when communicating with others.

Chat Modes

[Say]

Any message input in the say chat mode can be seen by any and all players in the immediate vicinity. It is the default chat mode, and messages displayed in this manner will appear in white. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with either /say or simply /s. In addition, the active chat mode may be set to say mode by entering the command /say without a message following.

[Party]

Any message input in the party chat mode can be seen by any and all party members. Messages displayed in this manner appear in blue. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with /party or simply /p. In addition, the active chat mode may be set to party mode by entering the command /party without a following message.

[Tell]

Any message input in the tell chat mode can be seen only by a single designated player. Messages displayed in this manner appear in pink. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with /tell or simply /t . The active chat mode cannot be set to tell mode. During the Alpha Test phase, PC names must be entered in their entirety (first and last names).

[Shout]

Shout chat mode is much like say chat mode, with the sole difference being that messages can be seen by players in a much wider area. Messages displayed in this manner appear in light pink. This chat mode is activated by prefacing a message with either /shout or simply /sh. The active chat mode cannot be set to shout mode.

Examples of Chat Commands



* All commands must begin with a / (forward slash) and contain only half-width characters.

Emotes

Emotes are a collection of expressions and gestures that can be used to convey the emotional state of your character. The emote menu is bound to the E key in the default keyboard setup, and can also be accessed by selecting the second icon from the right on the action bar. By forming a party with others, players will be able to defeat monsters and complete guildleves of a difficulty unthinkable to the solo adventurer. A single party may contain up to 15 characters.

Forming a Party

To form a party, simply target and select the player that you wish to invite, and then select the Invite option that appears. If your invitation is accepted, the party will be formed automatically, with the person who sent the initial invitation becoming the party leader. The leader is the only member of the party who can invite additional members.

* Players who are already in a party cannot be invited.

Accepting a Party Invite

If another player invites you to a party, a Join party? button will appear on your screen. Select this to bring up a prompt displaying the options of Yes, No, and Cancel. Choose Yes to accept the invitation.

Party Commands

- Promote

The Promote command allows players to change the party leader. It may only be carried out by the current party leader.

- Oust

The Oust command allows players to remove members from a party. It may only be carried out by the current party leader.

- Leave

The Leave command allows players to disband from a party.

Once a Party is Formed

Following the formation of a party, the unit frames of all party members will be displayed together in the lower right portion of the screen. The party leader will be designated by the presence of a yellow diamond to the immediate left of the leader's name.



The Trade command allows you to exchange items and gil with other players.

1. To initiate a trade, simply target and select a player, and then select the Trade option that appears.

* The recipient of a trade request will be see an Accept Trade? button. Selecting this will present the player with the options of Yes, No, and Cancel. Choose Yes to accept the request.

2. Accepting a trade request will automatically open the trade window.
3. Both players set the items and/or gil they wish to exchange in the trade slots provided.
4. Select Accept to complete the trade process.

* Selecting Cancel will abort the trade entirely.





Bazaars afford players the ability to sell and purchase items to and from one another. A player who has a bazaar set up will have the bazaar icon displayed next to that player's name.

Operating Your Bazaar

A player's bazaar can be set up to contain the items that player wishes to sell to others.

1. From the main menu, open the Item List and then select the Bazaar option. Highlight the item that you wish to sell, and then press Bazaar again.
2. In the window that follows, set the unit price at which you wish to sell your item(s).

* Note that 5% of the designated unit price will be taken as tax when the item sells. For example, an item being sold in a bazaar for 100 gil will require the purchasing player to pay 100 gil, but the player selling the item will receive only 95 gil from the transaction.

3. Having items in your bazaar purchased by other players will result in the gil being automatically added to your inventory.

Browsing Bazaars

By browsing the bazaars of others, players can purchase items.

1. Target and select a player with a bazaar and press the Browse button that appears. Then select the Selling option to view the items that player has up for sale.
2. Select the item you wish to purchase to complete the transaction.UI

Q: Can I undo attribute points already allocated?

A: With great power comes great responsibility. The Twelve have deemed you unworthy of that responsibility (at this time).

Battle

Q: I've arrived in Limsa Lominsa and watched the event scene with Baderon, the potty-mouthed proprietor of the Drowning Wench. What do I do next?

A: Access your Journal from the main menu. Select Class Quests to view a log of all that has transpired, as well as what lies immediately ahead on your path to adventure.

Q: My weapon is drawn, why isn't that plague rat DEAD!?

A: Just as Van Ghoh could have never painted a single sunflower without clicking the Paint button in his action menu, an adventurer cannot thrust, swing, or throw her weapon until the corresponding button is clicked.

Q: Do blacksmiths and miners have any battle options other than throwing stones?

A: Not during the Alpha/Beta tests. Though perhaps through prayer will the Twelve one day grant the Disciples of the Land and the Hand with new ways to fell Eorzea's nasty beasties.

Items

Q: Why can't I fight barehanded?

A: Because the Twelve do not wish it. Eorzean adventurers must have a weapon or tool equipped at all times.

Q: Where can I learn synthesis recipes? I tried copying the recipes introduced in certain levequests, but was told I do not have the crystal required for starting the synthesis.

A: Synthesis recipes are as elusive as the answers to questions such as the meaning of life and our purpose here on Hydaelyn. They must be sought for, and only the diligent shall be rewarded.

While normal synthesis requires the correct combination of crystal type and amount, levequest synthesis is often simplified, with the quest clients providing adventurers with crystals, thus their absence from the levequest recipes.

Q: How do I obtain crystals?

A: Crystalline manifestations of the planet's aether are rare, but under special circumstances will form within the bodies of certain creatures. It is up to you to get those crystals out...

Other

Q: Where can I synthesize items?

A: If your current class is one of the Disciples of the Hand, you can perform synthesis anywhere your heart desires.

Q: Where can I mine/quarry?

A: All miners have the ability to uncover the rough locations of mining and quarry points via their Prospect and Lithoscan abilities.

Q: I've found a Quarry Point, but I can't quarry!

A: Ah, but do you have a knapping hammer equipped as a secondary arm?

Q: I cannot synthesize with my secondary tool!

A: Ah, but do you have a file equipped as a secondary arm?

Q: I've fallen into a rift in the planet's surface and cannot escape! Whatever should I do?

A: The Land is a treacherous place, littered hither and yon with crevices, chasms, and bottomless pits, all waiting to consume the unsuspecting passerby. If you find yourself stuck in one of these not-so-proverbial ruts, simply open up your main menu and select Return to warp back to your home point.


traduzco algunas cosita que me llaman la atencion.

  • La clase esta determinada por el arma o herramienta en la mano. La clase elegida en la creacion de char, solo indica el equipo con el que empiezas. Cambias de clase cambiando el arma equipada.
  • va a haber zonas instanciadas (intancia como copia de zona con numero limitado de gente) "para eventos especiales". la zona inicial del juego (¿tutorial?) es una instancia de Uno
  • hay Zonas, pero la transicion de una a otra es sin "zonear" (exteriores de wow, p.ej)
  • el "battle Regimen" es la solucion de combate de grupo entretenido (la estrella de Lotro, los limites de ffxi, etc) parece denso
  • physical levels vs skillranks... los personajes ganan "physical levels" con experiencia (matando bichos), los skillranks parece que por uso, y es lo que delimita que acciones (spells) tienes.
  • pedrolos magicos : curan, bindean, teleportan y dan quests. la leche :P `parece que no va a haber mucho viaje despues de la primera vez.


Esto se sabe desde hace bastante, ha habido ya 3 "sesiones" de la alpha. Hay info, videos y fotos por todos lados xD,

Por lo que se ve el juego esta muy muy verde, pero apunta muy buenas maneras.
Y por lo que explica el sistema de combate es básicamente el FFXII? "turnos" para cada mano con una barra que se llena.

Lo de las clases en función del arma no le veo la gracia.

Me huelo mega instancias. Y lo mismo en ciudades tipo el Conan.

Salu2
IronArthur escribió:Y por lo que explica el sistema de combate es básicamente el FFXII? "turnos" para cada mano con una barra que se llena.

Lo de las clases en función del arma no le veo la gracia.

Me huelo mega instancias. Y lo mismo en ciudades tipo el Conan.

Salu2


No, ya hay gente jugandolo, el mundo es 100% abierto y sin cargas, las instancias se crean con las cut-scenes y algunas musiones en concreto.

Lo del tema de niveles, hay un nivel fisico que es el que determina en que lvl esta tu personaje (por mucho que al principio dijeron que no xD) y luego lo de las armas, no es mas que un derivado de los jobs del xi, Lo mismo, pero enfocado de otra forma.
¿tera online tiene fecha de salida?.
mithra escribió:¿tera online tiene fecha de salida?.


Echale 2011 a mediados mínimo.
Perdonad mi ignorancia, pero actualmente juegos nuevos online estan el warhammer, conan, aion, fallen earth y alguno mas? y los que salgan en proximas semanas o meses el mortal online? Ando perdido total :-?
Choper escribió:
mithra escribió:¿tera online tiene fecha de salida?.


Echale 2011 a mediados mínimo.

joe, pues si que va a tardar.
Bueno pues despues de probar y probar estos ultimos dias el que mas me ha gustado es el conan, creo que jugare en ese. Alguno de aqui juega?
Volador escribió:Bueno pues despues de probar y probar estos ultimos dias el que mas me ha gustado es el conan, creo que jugare en ese. Alguno de aqui juega?


No me suena de nadie, creo que la mayoria empezó al principio pero durante los primeros meses había muy poco contenido a niveles medio-altos.

Seguro que ahora habrá mejorado un montón, pero cuesta recuperar la confianza perdida. Haber si se dan cuenta de esto de una vez las compañias.

Salu2
He estado mirando servidores de SWGemu pero los veo todos vacios...ha decaido ya el juego?
Kaoran escribió:He estado mirando servidores de SWGemu pero los veo todos vacios...ha decaido ya el juego?

Que yo sepa solo hay uno y es el oficial de swgemu.com
Hola, estoy jugando al EVE y me esta gustando mucho.
Lo malo es que hemos empezando a jugar tres amigos y estamos un poco pez.

Solo hacemos que leer guías y demás, pero como en cada una pone una cosa estamos loscosssss con los skills y que rumbo seguir.

Siempre estamos hablando por skype mientras jugamos, así que imaginaros los momentos de risas y lagrimas cuando nos rompen las naves.

Para que os hagáis una idea a día de hoy nos quedan 5 días de trial y aun no estamos en ninguna corp.

¿me recomendáis alguna corp a la que unirnos?

y ya abusando un poco de vosotros, ¿alguno seria tan amable de pasarnos un código de esos de 21 días trial?

si queréis agregarme a skype para hablar, es el mismo nombre que en el foro.

gracias de ante pierna y perdón por el tocho.
pues aunque la primera vez no me gustase mucho voy a darle una segunda oportunidad al runes of magic. me apetece jugar a algún juego mmo sin pagar, y como tengo unos amiguetes echaremos unas risas.
Volador escribió:Bueno pues despues de probar y probar estos ultimos dias el que mas me ha gustado es el conan, creo que jugare en ese. Alguno de aqui juega?


Yo juego actualmente al Conan. Si necesitas algo , te ayudo en lo que pueda
Aunque tendría qu estar en el post de ofertas, seguro que lo apreciais más por aquí. Fallen Earth por 17€ en D2D http://www.direct2drive.eu/2/8137/product/Buy-Fallen-Earth-Download

Salu2

Edit: Y añado un Conan por 4€ en el carrefour.
tony-serena escribió:Hola, estoy jugando al EVE y me esta gustando mucho.
Lo malo es que hemos empezando a jugar tres amigos y estamos un poco pez.

Solo hacemos que leer guías y demás, pero como en cada una pone una cosa estamos loscosssss con los skills y que rumbo seguir.

Siempre estamos hablando por skype mientras jugamos, así que imaginaros los momentos de risas y lagrimas cuando nos rompen las naves.

Para que os hagáis una idea a día de hoy nos quedan 5 días de trial y aun no estamos en ninguna corp.

¿me recomendáis alguna corp a la que unirnos?

y ya abusando un poco de vosotros, ¿alguno seria tan amable de pasarnos un código de esos de 21 días trial?

si queréis agregarme a skype para hablar, es el mismo nombre que en el foro.

gracias de ante pierna y perdón por el tocho.


buscarse una corp en el eve para mi es fundamental o al menos jugar con gente experimentada. Pasate por el canal (ingame) ACADEMY [TOR]
O si no, dime algo por privado, el nombre de mi pj es Home Ocell
perdón por contestarte tan tarde Paboh, es que estábamos jugando y no e mirado el foro en todo el día.

me e metido en el susodicho canal y al parecer tenia que entrar en otro ^^.

y muy amablemente Killingbird me a redirigido al canal adecuado jejejejej.

mañana me tiene que hacer entrevista " panthertech " (con esto me a entrado un poco la risa y e pensado hasta en poner de traje [carcajad] )

eno mañana cuando me conecte si te veo te digo algo.

dewwww y gracias por todo.
tony-serena escribió:Hola, estoy jugando al EVE y me esta gustando mucho.
Lo malo es que hemos empezando a jugar tres amigos y estamos un poco pez.

Solo hacemos que leer guías y demás, pero como en cada una pone una cosa estamos loscosssss con los skills y que rumbo seguir.

Siempre estamos hablando por skype mientras jugamos, así que imaginaros los momentos de risas y lagrimas cuando nos rompen las naves.

Para que os hagáis una idea a día de hoy nos quedan 5 días de trial y aun no estamos en ninguna corp.

¿me recomendáis alguna corp a la que unirnos?

y ya abusando un poco de vosotros, ¿alguno seria tan amable de pasarnos un código de esos de 21 días trial?

si queréis agregarme a skype para hablar, es el mismo nombre que en el foro.

gracias de ante pierna y perdón por el tocho.


Tonmy, yotengo dos cuentas a mano (la mia y la de mi compihabitual) asi que podria mandaros hasta 6 buddys. mandame emails pòr privado y os las mando.

Lo de la corp. yo ahora mismo estoy sin, me aburri como una ostra en la academia de princeps y lo deje. Asi que ahora para los pocos ratitos que juego, hago misiones lvl4 o mineo un rato y me entretengo. Aunque reconozco lo interesantisimo de estar en una.

La recomendacion principal que os haria. Enfocaros en UNA cosa, y dedicaros en exckusiva. El muro de eve viene cuando intentas ver demasiado al mismo tiempo.

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BURBANK, Calif., April 20, 2010 – Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group announced today the acquisition of Turbine, Inc., the largest privately-held online gaming studio in North America, further strengthening Warner Bros.’ position as one of the industry’s fastest growing, full-scale games publishers.


Turbine comprado por WarnerBros Entertaiment. No tengo ni idea si es bueno o malo. Si quiere decir dinero para programar o grilletes para desarrollar.

El tiempo dirá. Yo llevaba un tiempo mosca que turbine no estuviera preparando juego nuevo (Asheron call, DDO, Lotro y lotro esta cumpliendo ya tres años), quizas esta sea la explicacion, que buscaban un inversor o un dueño de franquicias.
Warner Bros es ahora mismo propietaria de un mmorpg gratuito( DDO), chocante como poco.

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IronArthur escribió:Warner Bros es ahora mismo propietaria de un mmorpg gratuito( DDO), chocante como poco.

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mmmm noto ironia en tu voz :)

te refieres a algo en concreto? me he perdido algo fijo, porque WB Ya era dueña de un mmo gratuito :P

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mmm he estado revisando historia.

WB, era la propietaria de Matrix Online, antes que lo vendieran a Soe
WB es la dueña de Carton Networks... ergo.... esla dueña de Fusion Fall (el mmo de Ben10) el cual hace 15 dias convirtieron en Full Free.
WB es la dueña de DC Comics.... ergo ... ¿le pasa algo a DC Online ?

mmmm 1+1... ¿el tan rumoreado como futurible MMO de Harry Potter?
ploki escribió:
IronArthur escribió:Warner Bros es ahora mismo propietaria de un mmorpg gratuito( DDO), chocante como poco.

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mmmm noto ironia en tu voz :)

te refieres a algo en concreto? me he perdido algo fijo, porque WB Ya era dueña de un mmo gratuito :P

....


mmm he estado revisando historia.

WB, era la propietaria de Matrix Online, antes que lo vendieran a Soe
WB es la dueña de Carton Networks... ergo.... esla dueña de Fusion Fall (el mmo de Ben10) el cual hace 15 dias convirtieron en Full Free.
WB es la dueña de DC Comics.... ergo ... ¿le pasa algo a DC Online ?

mmmm 1+1... ¿el tan rumoreado como futurible MMO de Harry Potter?


Me has cazado [ayay] [ayay]. Yo no sabia .. [ayay].

Ciertamente Warner Bros no está en crisis porque está comprando a diestro y siniestro... que turbine no es la primera desarrolladora grande que compran últimamente. Es lo que tiene haberse guardado capital para cuando la crisis llega y te puedes permitir comprar joyitas (Rocksteady por ej.).

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Atencion al nuevo invento de SoE

http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/passport

pagas 5 dolares. y tienes acceso a EQ 3 dias consecutivos al mes [flipa]
ploki escribió:Atencion al nuevo invento de SoE

http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/passport

pagas 5 dolares. y tienes acceso a EQ 3 dias consecutivos al mes [flipa]


Mi no entender. Que puedes jugar hasta 3 dias al mes, o hasta 3 dias seguidos??. Vamos por ejemplo sólo juegas todos los fines de semana y algún dia ocasional. Pero no pudes jugar viernes,sabado,domingo?

Pagas una vez 5$ o 5$/mes.

Depende de como sea igual es hasta buena idea.

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ploki escribió:Atencion al nuevo invento de SoE

http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/passport

pagas 5 dolares. y tienes acceso a EQ 3 dias consecutivos al mes [flipa]

Es horrible. Estaría bien si fuesen 72 horas, pero son 3 días seguidos. Pagas una tercera parte de la suscripción y tienes una décima parte del tiempo...
Si es 5$/mes es ridículo, y un timo.

Si es 5$, está enfocado a reabrir cuentas megaviejas o alts, por entrar a ver q tal.

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yo quiero pensar que paagas 5 euros (mas impuestos) y tienes derecho por siempre jamas a jugar tres dias al mes.

la mierda es como dices, que 3 dias consecutivos es mucho menos tiempo que 72 horas. eso si, soe plantea que esta muy bien para estar de baja, y aun asi pillarte todos los promocionales.


que si festival de navidad, entras y te sacas el gorro de papanoel
primavera, recoges la chaqueta de flores
etc
tony-serena escribió:Hola, estoy jugando al EVE y me esta gustando mucho.
Lo malo es que hemos empezando a jugar tres amigos y estamos un poco pez.

Solo hacemos que leer guías y demás, pero como en cada una pone una cosa estamos loscosssss con los skills y que rumbo seguir.

Siempre estamos hablando por skype mientras jugamos, así que imaginaros los momentos de risas y lagrimas cuando nos rompen las naves.

Para que os hagáis una idea a día de hoy nos quedan 5 días de trial y aun no estamos en ninguna corp.

¿me recomendáis alguna corp a la que unirnos?

y ya abusando un poco de vosotros, ¿alguno seria tan amable de pasarnos un código de esos de 21 días trial?

si queréis agregarme a skype para hablar, es el mismo nombre que en el foro.

gracias de ante pierna y perdón por el tocho.



Si quereis yo tambien podria conseguiros buddy program de 21 dias con otroas 2 cuentas. la mia y la de mi hermano :)

asi que aqui teneis mas jeje
Pues yo le estoy dando al Aion Candelita buena, despues de pasos por lineage2 oficial y demas sigo con mi aion hasta el final , me esta encnatado la mayoria de cosas que hago. Espero pronto ese parche 1,9, y mas tarde el 2.0, ya uqe el 3.0 lo veo muuuuuu lejannoooooo
Balmung escribió:Pues yo le estoy dando al Aion Candelita buena, despues de pasos por lineage2 oficial y demas sigo con mi aion hasta el final , me esta encnatado la mayoria de cosas que hago. Espero pronto ese parche 1,9, y mas tarde el 2.0, ya uqe el 3.0 lo veo muuuuuu lejannoooooo


Sabes que novedades tendran esos parches? (1.9 y 2.0) y cuando salen? estoy pensando reactivar mi cuenta de AION pa echarme unos vicios, Juegas en CASTOR?
Lo de los días de SOE estaría bien si fuese 3$ por 3 días, yo lo cogería muchos meses. Por 5$ (que serán 5€) paso olímpicamente.

Por cierto Darkfall invita a sus ex usuarios a probar el juego otro rato. No es que haya cambiado mucho, pero os recomiendo que os paseis y acudais a un siegue si podeis. Son la leche de impresionantes.
no se muy bien si esta pregunta va aqui pero la ago aqui para no abrir otro subforo:
me gustaria pillarme x el steam el star wats galaxy y me pregunta es si hay mucha gente jugando a este juego?
edgarcast escribió:no se muy bien si esta pregunta va aqui pero la ago aqui para no abrir otro subforo:
me gustaria pillarme x el steam el star wats galaxy y me pregunta es si hay mucha gente jugando a este juego?


No creo que haya mucha gente jugando, y menos va a haber cuando saquen el Old republic. Si te sale a bien precio juegate el més gratis. Yo hace unos meses conseguí el juego con todas sus expansiones y el mes gratis por 3€. De todos modos en este hilo todo el mundo te dirá que el Star Wars Galaxies de ahora es caca de la vaca y que el bueno era el Pre Combat Upgrade, y que te metas en SWGEmu, que tampoco debe estar mal y, para ser gratuito, si tiene una cantidad de gente considerable.

Hagas lo que hagas pasate y comentanos tus impresiones.
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edgarcast escribió:no se muy bien si esta pregunta va aqui pero la ago aqui para no abrir otro subforo:
me gustaria pillarme x el steam el star wats galaxy y me pregunta es si hay mucha gente jugando a este juego?


No creo que haya mucha gente jugando, y menos va a haber cuando saquen el Old republic. Si te sale a bien precio juegate el més gratis. Yo hace unos meses conseguí el juego con todas sus expansiones y el mes gratis por 3€. De todos modos en este hilo todo el mundo te dirá que el Star Wars Galaxies de ahora es caca de la vaca y que el bueno era el Pre Combat Upgrade, y que te metas en SWGEmu, que tampoco debe estar mal y, para ser gratuito, si tiene una cantidad de gente considerable.

Hagas lo que hagas pasate y comentanos tus impresiones.


Pues creo que al final no voy a comprar ninguno

gracias por el aporte
Ya esta abierta las incripciones a la Closed Beta de LOCO de alaplaya

http://loco.es.alaplaya.net/ http://en.alaplaya.net/teasers/15465
Zatch escribió:Ya esta abierta las incripciones a la Closed Beta de LOCO de alaplaya

http://loco.es.alaplaya.net/ http://en.alaplaya.net/teasers/15465

¿este juego es free play?.
Si, como todos los de alaplaya, el juego es muy parecido al S4Leage de los mismso de alaplaya pero mas ambiatado al rol
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