HILO Ferrari Challenge Trofeo Pirelli

xergio63 escribió:esta mañana me han dicho en game que sale el dia, aunque onociendo como son tal vez sea posible verlo mañana

Close escribió:Ah ok.

Nuevo video: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35846.html

Jori escribió:Desde que anunciaron este juego siempre he estado muy interesado en el...
Pero despues de leer las entrevistas que colgaron hace un par o tres de meses atrás, como que dejó de interesarme casi por completo... Decían que no era un simulador puro y duro, sinó que era un "arcade-sim" como ellos decían.

Pero he estado mirando videos esta semana y mirando foros guiris y tal.. y la verdad que vuelvo a tener la fe en este juego.

Eso si... no me lo pienso comprar con los ojos cerrados y ala!!!!!

A ver que tal los comentarios de la gente que se lo va pillando...

Si el juego es un simulador en toda regla, cae pero fijo fijo fijo... Pero si es un experimento del palo del Toca Race Grid ya se lo pueden meter por el culo.

Pero algo me dice a mi que no, que este juego va a ser el mejor juego de conducción de PS3... y espero no equivocarme.


Ya queda poco... a ver si los guiris se lo pillan mañana y leo sus comentarios

saludos

Here is a good player-review from another forum:


"OK then, this arrived this morning and i've given it about 30 mins so far like Chowy. Here's my initial views :-

Presentation & Visuals - Not bad actually, the game defaults to 1080p and looks pretty sharp. The resolution doesn't look as high as GT, but is clearly higher than the likes of GRID. I actually felt that the menu's were OK, not brilliant, but OK. GT5p's worst aspect is it's menus as you have to keep coming out of one, to go back to the main menu etc. and these are much more user friendly.

The car models are great with plenty of detail and from what i've seen so far they look very accurate (as you would expect from an officially licensed game). The tracks are also very good, with plenty of detail and although i've only driven Monza so far, it's a very accurate replication . My only gripe with the graphics is that the colour palate used is a bit garish and gives it more of a Forza look than a GT5 look. GT5p looks much more realistic, where there's no doubting that these visuals are from a video game.

Framerate, I switched to bonnet cam and didn't notice any slowdown during the race, but there is some in the replays when viewing from the TV presentation type views. I have only driven Monza as I say, but whilst it clearly lacks the 60fps smoothness of GT5p or Forza 2, the framerate is stable and I personally have no problems with it.

Overall for visuals i'd give it an 8/10 with really only points lost for a poor colour palate and low res reflections.

Gameplay - Very good IMO. It doesn't quite match up to the superb driving model and feel of GT5p, but I really enjoyed driving the F430 round Monza in this game. I usually know straight away (GRID being the only real exception in recent times) whether I love a game or not and I really enjoyed playing this. It just had the right feel for me and the driving model is highly complex. Driving with the aids off is harder to master than GT5p I found and the game is clearly a simulation. I played with the G25 and overall it was superb and allowed for great control over the car. That said (unless i've missed something) it doesn't have 900 degree support or the option to alter the feedback. I found the feedback to be very heavy and whilst I got used to it, I would prefer to be able to alter it. A lack of 900 degree steering is a shame though and if it's not in the game I hope they add it in a patch. Overall though i'm very happy with it so far and would give the gameplay 8.5/10

Sound - Sound is functional really, the engine noise seems decent enough but the other effects (such as making contact with another car) are rather ropey. Naturally you can turn the music off etc. but really the sound is neither bad, nor outstanding. I'd give it a 6/10 personally.

Game modes - Not had chance to try them all yet but there does seem to be a lot of modes available (online 16 player, Challenge (career), quick race, time trial, tutorial (which is actually very good, especially for those who are not experienced racers), card battle etc. and I can see there being a great deal of lastability in this game. There's a fair few tracks (with favourites like Spa, Monza, Silverstone, Hockenheim included) and 50+ cars. There's also a Forzaesque livery editor built in, but i've not dabbled with it yet. Overall, for game modes i'd say it's looking like a solid 9/10

Initial impressions are very good for this title. I can see it becoming a fave of many of us on here. GT is still king in my book, but this is certainly a very good alternative. It offers a different experience to many other racers and has a unique feel, which does remind you of the Sega arcade & dreamcast classic.

At this stage i'd position it somewhere between 8/10 & 9/10 but my gut instint tells me that it could end up being a solid 9/10 game if the online works well. If folk are looking to this to be a GT beater then they will be disappointed. If folk view it for what it is (and it offers a different experience to other games like GT) then they will most likely be impressed.

Anyway, back to it!"

I had to register here just to say that I've been playing this game since yesterday (delivered from game) and its not as bad as been made out. I'm a big driving fan, play PGR and GT5P as my fav's. Now this game is Not a sim in my view, at least is doesn't drive like one, nor does it drive like PGR, it has its own feel but is fun to drive.


Graphics, well inside the car is nowhere near as good as GT5P but i would say the track detail is better,Game runs at a lovely looking 1080P but there seems to be a fair amount of slowdown and lock ups however i updated my PS3 to FW2.40 so that my be the reason.


Sound, Take some getting used to, it sound odd because most of the cars don't drop the accelerator when changing gear as in real life seqenual gearbox's. all other sounds seem fine to me.


Options, well i don't see a seat adjustment anywhere, 3 controller presets, mainly using either buttons, triggers or thumbstick (thank you god!) and a pedal and steering sensitivity for a wheel.


Overall i like the game very much, loads of tracks loads of car to unlock and promises in the manual about new cars and track been added weekly and liveries to change as the teams change in real life series.



So score,

Graphics 8/10 (because of slowdown)
Audio 7/10
Gameplay 9/10 (loads to do)

OK here we go, I too have a copy and after spending around an hour with it here are my thoughts.

Presentation
The menu system is easy to navigate and looks reasonably polished, the options do take a short while to appear (in reality less then a second), it is noticeable, personally I don't find it an issue. Its not as 'next-gen' a menu screen as the likes of GT5:P and Grid, but its far better than the un-holy mess that was Enthusia. Certainly not work marking it down for.

A good range of options exist within the game itself, including a nice progression system that rewards certain activities with 'collectors cards', basically top trumps for Ferrari, one that I hope will get patched for the Trophy system. A mini game to play top trumps with them also exists within the game itself - one my 8 year old will love.


Sounds
The music varies a lot, most of it horrible, switching it off was one of the first things I did.

In-car sounds are good, with a nice shriek from the engine, a whine from the race transmission, over-run pops as you change down and a good thump as you shift as well.

The rest of the sounds are a bit of a mixed bag, some like the noise from rumble strips is done very well, others like the metal on metal sounds as you make contact as a bit weak.

General sound placement through 5.1 is very, very good, the one exception is when you use the rear view, as despite now looking right at the engine is eerily quiet.

Ignore the music and overall its very good.


Visuals
Let me get this straight from the outset, I was not expecting a GT5:P challenger here, but I have to say it doesn't look shabby at all. The basic colour palette is a bit bright are garish, but with brightness, contrast and gamma adjustments available it can be toned down.

Cars first then, the overall poly count is clearly down on GT5:P, but for the one car I drove it looked good both inside and out, both details and proportions of the cars look right.

Tracks next and I have to say this is the area that stands out, the track I spent the most time with was Monza and track detail is both accurate and good looking, road textures are well done as is the track furniture. Lighting is good and varies well over the track length, I have yet to try the rain effects, but from this starting point they should be good.

Overall the game appears to run at the claimed fixed 30fps and what is being output to my TV is 1080P, without a pixel count (which I'm not doing) I can't be 100% sure its not upscalled. However I quite frankly don't care, it looks more than good enough.

Replays look good as well, with the dynamic camera angles doing a far better job than the likes of FM2, but why can't they be saved?


Gameplay
OK now I have only had a short time with the game itself, but it looks like quite a range of modes, events, tracks and cars are available. The main core of it based around the three Challenge events themselves (Italy, Europe and America), and the event structure is exactly as it should be, with a qualifying session followed by two timed races. The races themselves are flagged and penalties do apply, at present these seem to be fairly done as well.

Set-up options are limited, but that is only to be expected, anyone who knows the series will be more than aware that the real events offer only limited set-up choices.

In all honesty more than enough content seems to be on offer here.


Handling
The big one.........

and its good. First out, my biggest fear that it was using a fixed rotation point is out of the window. With all the aids on you have an easy to drive racer with a strong arcade bias.

However switch the aids to a lower level (or off) and things start to look more promising. While I'm not yet (time will tell) ready to call it a sim, the handling model is surprisingly in-depth and detailed. Load transfer and how smoothly its done are more than present and correct, in fact smoothness can make the difference between making an apex and understeering into the gravel.

Yes that's right, UNDERSTEER, its nice to see a game that remembers such a thing exists, brake to late into a corner (particularly with ABS off or low) or turn in to hard or both and you will be greeted with understeer.

However the opposite is also true, get back on the power in anything other than a straight line with the aids low or off and the back will step out on you. Its progressive and easy to catch if you are smooth, but get the load shifting too quickly at speed and you can end up fish-tailing down the track and into the tyre wall.

Which leads me to damage, to be honest from what I have come across so far its pointless, minor cosmetic stuff is all you get, it certainly doesn't affect the outcome of a race.

I've not yet had a chance to try the on-line side of things, as PSN has been down for most of today (the one time it was on I was playing Buzz - but that is another thread).


The Final Score
So what would I give it and would I recommend it.

Well first off this is based on a limited time playing it (and please note I have not yet had a chance to play it with a wheel), but I have to say, yes I would recommend it. While not perfect, the core of the handling model does appear solid and a lot exists to do in here (if and its a bit if, you like Ferrari), some of the sounds are a bit off and the crash damage is pointless, but for me its certainly not enough to ruin it.

Very glad to have P/X's GRiD for it.

8/10

ea7in escribió:ya esta disponible en game.es
alguien lo tiene ya??? estoy pensando en pillarlo por ebay que esta un poco mas barato pero me tira para atras el que no sea multilenguaje... que opinais?
saludos.

Jori escribió:Si... no lo pintan mal...

Pero aún así no las tengo todas...

El tema de graficos y tal lo veo bien... para mi perfecto. Pero lo que realmente me interesa de este juego es el control con el volante, las fisicas y la simulación en general, y la verdad es que de momento no he leído nada que me haya convencido del todo.

Claro que aún no lo han provado a fondo y es poca la gente que lo ha provado...
Pero si el juego hubiera sido un simulador puro y duro se hubiera notado a la primera y ya lo hubieran dicho... pero no es así. Aunque bueno... ya sabía yo que no iva a ser un simulador puro este juego...
Como decían los desarrolladores, el juego es un "arcade-sim"...

No se... necesito leer mas información y saber mas cosas.

Alomejor me lo acabe pillando por la emoción y lo falto que estoy de juegos de coches... porque es uno de mis generos preferidos y ahora mismo tengo mi G25 cojiendo polvo porque no hay ningun titulo que me guste en la PS3... (Excepto el GT5 Prologue, pero me viene pequeño)


A ver si postean mas impresiones los guiris estos


saludos

Feeder18 escribió:Nuevas noticias, nada buenas por cierto.


Acaban de actualizar el precio del juego, y por supuesto que no ha sido por lo bajo...

Ha pasado de 59'95 a 69'95 ........................ Lo retrasan, nos venden el juego a un precio y encima van y después, a dos días de la salida lo modifican subiendo 10 euros más.

En fin, era de esperar.

Saludos.

No se si podré aguantar hasta el jueves sin el. Si me da la venada me voy a Francia a por el.

landokarl escribió:La pena es que la gente no comprara mas de importación, porque no hay derecho a que nos cobre de 10-20 euros mas por los juegos. Yo cuando la gente confirme que es un gran juego, lo pillaré de importacion.

No se si podré aguantar hasta el jueves sin el. Si me da la venada me voy a Francia a por el.

Si la verdad, no se que coño esta pasando con los ultimos titulos, que se reciben en toda Europa antes que en España.

Jori escribió:No seais tontos e importad los juegos anda...

Boicot a las distribuidoras de juegos en España...

Si contimuamos dejando que nos estafen lo seguiran haciendo.


Mis ultimos 4 juegos los he pillado de importación y nunca mas voy a pagar 70 pepinos por un juego.. que encima luego el colmo es que nos los venden con bugs a la espera del famoso parchecito. Venga hombre... a cagar!


Lo malo es que te tienes que esperar una semana a que te lleguen... pero bueno, no pasa nada tampoco verdad???

Jordà_Master escribió:se lo va a pillar alguien en cuanto salga?
es k estoi indeciso...

Feeder18 escribió:Espero que me guste, porque como dice KANFROX, lo que estoy leyendo últimamente no me da buena espina... y sineceramente, sería todo un bajón que después de estar esperando más de 7 meses entre retraso y retraso, el juego fuera una basura o no cumpliera al menos, una parte de nuestras expectativas.

Kanfrox escribió:Lo digo porque me parece raro que habiendo salido en UK y Francia no lo saquen aquí, si tienen pensado actualizar: http://www.videogamer.com/news/09-07-2008-8754.html

Jordà_Master escribió:acabo de llamar al ga un pkito.....al 26 DE AGOSTO!!!
ES VERDAD?
me de vilanovao y me han dixo k se a retrasad

toranosuke escribió:

Jordà_Master escribió:acabo de llamar al ga un pkito.....al 26 DE AGOSTO!!!
ES VERDAD?
me de vilanovao y me han dixo k se a retrasad

oye tio, normalmente no soy un taliban ortografico, y me da igual que no se entienda absolutamente nada de tu mensaje... pero poner "ferrarY" en tu firma tiene mucho delito