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Well first of all.. The PES 2012 I played was the E3 code (as confirmed by Steve Key from Konami Marketing) so I imagine that WENB played a newer code. I only got to play 3 and a half games.. and saw an additional 7/8 games. So my impressions are only based on the games I played and what i saw.. (Which is probably not 100% accurate because I think you need hours upon hours of play to really make a realistic judgment).
The first thing I noticed was that there was only a hand full of teams to choose from.. Some international and some club. All of the tactical elements were not intact. E.G. You couldn’t change your formation etc.. But not to worry, I just want to play the game.
*Drum roll..
Spain (me) vs. Argentina (some other dude)..
So I pick my team, not making the mistake that 99.9% of people make by playing people out of position.. I move Puyol (God) from center half to supporting striker.. In that hole between the midfield and attack. Then I get rid of Torres and put Llorente in his place.. :/ I get a few funny looks and the odd snigger but i remain cool, full of confidence.. (What am I doing..?? I’m not at home now playing my nephews..!?) Ah well.. "Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord and has made the Lord his hope and confidence." - Puyol 17:7
The intro was a nice touch, with the ref walking through the players in the tunnel, camera men, etc.. But I’m not getting too carried away because I want to see how the gameplay is.. Now there was only the default camera to choose from which was the same as PES 2011.. I was hoping to have wide cam. Auto kick offs are gone (thank God) and the First thing I notice is.. I CAN’T MOVE..!?? I’m panicking because i have just kicked off and lost possession ALREADY.. Then the penny drops..*sigh of relief.. It’s set to analogue stick as default (I’m old school man.. I’m still using the d-pad.. Getting me to change to analogue is like trying to convince my 88 year old Grandmother to buy a 60" Sony 1080p LED 3D TV when she’s happy with the 14" square bulky black and white TV she’s had most of her life.. Haha..) So i change the settings..
*wipes sweat of forehead..
So I kick off just passing it around, Keeping possession.. and I must admit it felt a little Fifa-esq.. But still a Winning Eleven/PES game.. Which is not necessarily a bad thing? It seemed initially smooth and turning was quite sharp to my surprise.. I also noticed that the 'big' players (Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, .. .. .. Puyol.. Haha..) were a joy to handle. Im playing as Spain and Iniesta has the ball.. Damn, it feels good dribbling with him. Sharp, crisp turns.. I felt like I could actually do some damage with him..
So the next thing that I notice is the speed..! Now I usually play on +2 so the game seemed a little slow for me.. and unfortunately i didn’t have the option to change it.. Not to worry.
Now i’ve heard about the managers on the touchline and the stewards.. and I must say it’s a nice touch.. Subtle, but adds to the atmosphere.. I notice a few animations that have been added but nothing that blew me away (bear in mind it’s the E3 code). The crowd looked really nice too with supporters wearing club shirts.. But all these things are superficial.. How does the game play..??
Well I loved the way certain players retain the ball when I would expect to lose possession in PES 2011.. and probably the most impressive element to be added is the way you quickly recover from the stumble animation.. Now we all saw the 6 PES 2012 videos that were released recently showing the gameplay improvements.. But I wasn’t over excited as I felt it was something I had to actually experience by playing the game.. Now I can tell you that the support play along with the overlapping runs are superb.. I always had an option and it was up to me to make the right decision at the right time to fully take advantage of it.
I seemed to retain possession quite well and the shape of the opposing team is very good.. It was hard to break down the midfield and defense. Puyol picks up the ball 40 yards out.. Approaches Mascherano.. Turns him leaving him for dead (with people watching me in amazement that I played Puyol in the "kaka role" I felt I had to justify my tactical switch) and nearly 30 yards out I strike the ball.. Left foot and it loops into the top corner.. GOOOAAAL..!! I turn around in arrogance with a "told you so" look.. Haha.. 1-0 Spain.. I wasn’t 100% sure if the terrible shooting from PES 2011 was fixed as I think it was a miss-hit from a defender on his wrong foot.. But it seemed quite good. So out come Argentina attacking me.. *Gulp..!? Now being a Leeds United fan (I no.. Someone has to be) I naturally liked a 'challenge' so when I lost possession.. BOOM.. I made sure they knew I was there..! Challenge after challenge I was taking no prisoners.. I was introducing to my opponent who was a fairy/pansy Arsenal fan the taste of cold steel.. Conjuring up the spirits of Billy Bremner, Alan Clarke and Norman "Bite Your Legs" Hunter.. and showing him the 1970's Leeds way.. MUHHAHAHA.. *Grrrrr.. The ref was dishing out the yellow cards.. Thick and fast! Now my opponent thought I was dirty.. But I would like to think I was just dirty so it’s 1-0 Spain.. and Messi was clean through 1 on 1 with Casillas.. So I thought I’d do my 'old trick' of selecting a player somewhere else on the screen and fouling a player 30 yards away.. Nowhere near the 1 on 1.. Knowing I’m going to prevent a certain goal and giving away a free kick.. So BANG.. Pique takes out Aguero.. Haha ha ha.. .. ha..? huh.. HANG ON A MINUTE..? *panic.. Play on..? Advantage..? and sure enough Messi scores, slotting it home.. Its 1-1.. How GUTTED am I..?
So I continue to play the "beautiful game" *cough.. and it’s game on. To be fair my opponent had a few chances which he fluffed.. and against the run of play I found myself breaking away and I’m 3 on 3.. I approach the edge of the area and I get another chance to shoot with Llorente.. I unleash a shot which I think would go in row Z in PES 2011 and it rockets into the goal..?? Wow what a strike.. 2-1 and I’m liking the shooting.. Now the shooting wasn’t 'perfect' but ALLOT better.. So it seemed. A couple of minutes later I’m in control with Villa on the left and I play a chip through ball to Llorente and he out-jumps the keeper 3-1.. I felt the keeper should have done better.. I was surprised! Now when i had a set piece i used the 'off the ball control' system.. and although it took a little while to get the hang of.. I was LOVING the fact that I could select Puyol as I was about to take a corner for example.. It was exciting, but it also made my opponent feel a little under pressure with him having to mark me.. and I was very anxious when I had it done on me.. Haha.. But a good move Konami (hang on..?? Did I just say that..??!)
My opponent thinks I’m probably a pro and maybe a games tester for PES 2012 or something because I’m 3-1 up playing Jesus.. I MEAN Puyol in an attacking position.. Dropping Torres for Llorente and both of them scoring.. Hahaha.. How pleasing..! So his head has dropped and I’m full of confidence.. Can I actually get a Llorente hat-trick..?? Surely not..!? It’s about 80 minutes gone and Puyol has a chance to shoot.. BANG (more like Plop..) he miss-hits the shot takes a cruel deflection and falls to Llorente 5 yards out with an open net.. My hearts beating like the heart Mola Ram rips out of that poor guy in Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom.. and I tap it in.. “YESSS..” A Llorente HAT-TRICK.. Bwaaahaha.. Im ecstatic.. So I thought it try and get Puyol sent off to rub salt into the wound of my opponent.. So I could say I beat Argentina with Puyol upfront, Torres dropped for Llorente and only had 10 men.. But I didn’t manage it.. Instead I made Puyol look like a complete idiot sliding in here, there and everywhere. Now I didn’t get to see a situation where there was a play on and the ref went back after play stopped and booked the player.. But I’m sure it’s in the game.. Maybe not in this code but the boys at WENB confirmed this.
Full time, and my opponent turns to shake my hand. "Good game" he says with a shocked face.. and I say the same, apologizing for my unbelievable luck. We had a laugh, What a great sport
My overall impressions were good, But I don’t want to get carried away. It’s a LONG way of the finished product. Allot of bugs didn’t seem to be there which was great. There wasn’t one particular thing that amazed me. It was the subtle changes that impressed me. I would have to play the game on +2 speed to really give a better analysis as that’s the speed I always play on. The off the ball control was really good and I can see it being a big thing this year. Refs were good, Shooting seemed slightly improved, and the fluidity of the game was great. It was helped by the AI in all aspects (defensive shape, running into space, overlapping runs etc..) The keepers were a little suspect and the game was glitchy but it was after all the E3 code. It would be good to hear impressions from Gamescon, and later Eurogamer (which i will be attending)
For the first time in a while I am REALLY looking forward to WE/PES 2012.. Especially with the Teammate Controls (assisted and manual) videos being released recently.
dracula100 escribió:cual de las dos licencias liga argentina o licencia euro 2012 sera la novedad en pes 2012 hagan sus apuestas
badolito escribió:MQC, que va, no estoy flojo, pero es que los porteros son un poco . Por cierto, ¿recordais si la beta online del año pasado la sacaron antes o después de la Gamescon?
Y jjoseca, ¿estas seguro que van a sacar una beta este año...?
hideiker escribió:Liga BBVA Licenciada!!!!
articulo de famitsu sobre el we 2012!!
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/21047048.html
Campeonato Nacional de Liga BBVA Producto bajo Licencia Oficial de la LFP www.lfp.es (C)
Por si alguien tb lo quiere ya tenemos pagina oficial de we 2012 en konam¡ jp
http://www.konami.jp/we/2012/
Saludos dsd Canarias!
Vacaciones!!!
hideiker escribió:Liga BBVA Licenciada!!!!
articulo de famitsu sobre el we 2012!!
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/21047048.html
Campeonato Nacional de Liga BBVA Producto bajo Licencia Oficial de la LFP www.lfp.es (C)
Por si alguien tb lo quiere ya tenemos pagina oficial de we 2012 en konam¡ jp
http://www.konami.jp/we/2012/
Saludos dsd Canarias!
Vacaciones!!!
jahngo escribió:El año pasado existían varios equipos licenciados... ¿no ponía algo similar en el apartado de licencias?
jahngo escribió:El año pasado existían varios equipos licenciados... ¿no ponía algo similar en el apartado de licencias?
ezer escribió:jahngo escribió:El año pasado existían varios equipos licenciados... ¿no ponía algo similar en el apartado de licencias?
El año pasado como dices eran varios equipos licenciados, pero ahora está "Campeonato Nacional de Liga BBVA" por lo que es de suponer que sean todos los equipos de la liga licenciados
capellista escribió:Personalmente, hasta que no confirme Konami que la licencia cubre a TODOS los equipos de la liga española, no me quiero hacer ilusiones...
MARIOCOM escribió:Hay una cosa que me tiene intrigado. Si yo puedo controlar a un segundo jugador para hacer desmarque con el stick derecho, si lo hago bien y quiero darle la pelota tendria que pasarle el balon... pero yo tengo el pulgar en el stick derecho y tendria que soltarlo para pulsar la x o triangulo, por muy rapido que lo hagas tienes que soltar el stick por lo tanto tu jugador quedara parado... como lo veis?
Slash076 escribió:capellista escribió:Personalmente, hasta que no confirme Konami que la licencia cubre a TODOS los equipos de la liga española, no me quiero hacer ilusiones...
Yo tampoco me hago ilusiones hasta que esté oficialmente confirmado. Quien sabe si aunque salgan varios equipos, tengan que poner esa leyenda de "campeonato Nacional de liga BBVA" en el tema de los créditos y las licencias por normativa, o incluso que tengan la licencia de la liga para explotarla en Asia pero no en Europa... a saber.
Sería demasiado bonito no tener que suplicarle a 4NG3L que haga un trabajo digno con la camiseta del Betis, sin que salga ningún "palmerín" de coña por algún lado en la camiseta...
Falchi escribió:Sobre lo que comentas, killoisla,
1.- He visto jugadores en los que se nota dar el toque al balón con el pie, más al estilo 2011. Pondría un GIF, pero aún no puedo. Creo recordar que a Llorente se le notaba. A mí me parece bien que a jugadores técnicos no se les note, porque en la realidad es así, pero sólo a ellos, claro.
2.- Poco qué comentar... cada uno conduce lo que estima al ser 2 jugadores Humanos. Lo de los huecos...bueno, también vemos partidos muy rápidos y correcalles. Para mí es pronto para valorar este tipo de cosas. Creo que nos faltan datos.
3.- En el 2011 hay algo que puede servir para eso (aunque sé que no es lo que pides). En regates hay la opcion de picarla un poco y como puedes escoger la dirección (diagonal, más bien), te permite salvar a esos defensas.
fikipro escribió:ayer me dio por probar el pro 2010 en xbox y madre mia menudo repaso en graficos le pega al 2011 y al paracer al 2012 joder el cesped con la camara por defecto es una pasada, da sensacion de volumne y todo y ya ni hablar de los estilizados cuerpos de los jugadores.
como es posible que si konami lograse eso hace 2 años , el pro 2011 en ps3 sea un desastre en graficos con los dientacos de sierra y ese cesped mas plano......no lo entiendo.
mismo caso que en la competencia con el copa y fifas posteriores o incluso el euro....
killoisla escribió:yo creo que hay tres puntos claves para que este pes fuera casi perfecto
1- las carreras con el balon, el jugador simplemente va corriendo como si fuera el muñeco de salvame y el balon hace el efecto yoyo, en ningun momento se ve el gesto de dar el toque al balon con el pie
2- todos los jugadores conducen demasiado el balon, en un partido real quitando a messi y tres mas, los demas controlan el balon y la echan a otro compañero, puesto que los contrarios cierran los espacios, y en los videos se ven muchos espacios(hasta que no se vea un partido contra la computadora no se vera si podras conducir tanto el balon)
3- el balon deberia de ser totalmente independiente al jugador, es decir deberia de haber un boton en el cual, nos adelantamos el balon mas o menos la fuerza con que mantengamos pulsado el boton, si un defensa viene a quitarnos el balon, con que le dieramos un leve toque hacia un lado, desbordariamos al defensa, y no que llevan el balon pegado al pie como si formara parte del cuerpo
yo creo q estos 3 puntos unido a la gran IA de este año, harian un juego casi perfecto(saldran los que piden mejores porteros y mejores arbitros) pero bueno es lo que yo creo q es mas importante en un juego de futbol
koki89 escribió:Alguien a guardado los videos de ayer.? porque me lo encuentro hoy y no lo puedo ver
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koki89 escribió:koki89 escribió:Alguien a guardado los videos de ayer.? porque me lo encuentro hoy y no lo puedo ver
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