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eledupor2 escribió:Pero eso tiene fácil solución: el botón de ignorar es vuestro amigo.
sexto escribió:@Tukaram la verdad es que son bastante caprichosos.
No tienen suficiente con querer contentar la serie sin que nadie les recuerde cada 5 minutos que es objetivamente mala y una falta de respeto.
Sino que encima quieren comentarla en el momento de la emisión y no un año y medio después.
Son para darles de comer a parte.
Falkiño escribió:Esto es muy simple, cualquier usuario puede comentar lo que le salga de los cojones de esta serie cuando le salga de los cojones, siempre y cuando cumpla las normas.
Y que yo sepa no hay ninguna norma que diga que no se pueda criticar la serie, las veces que quieras; y menos si lo has razonado y explicado por qué, y como ésto tiene muchas aristas, porque la crítica puede ir desde fidelidad al canon, a decisiones de casting, vestuario, guiones o interpretación de los actores, pues hay mucho que rascar, muchos aspectos a comentar y ya está, y ninguno viola las normas.
Por lo demás, al que la serie le guste es perfectamente válido y también puede ponerlo, y como es un foro de opinión al escribir aquí estás permitiendo implícitamente que los demás puedan responderte u opinar sobre tu opinión; si no gusta pues ya se sabe, no escribas.
Para todo lo demás, leeros a Tolkien, eso siempre es bueno.
Un saludo
LoganDark_84 escribió:Y muchos se acogen justamente a lo que has dicho para cargarse el hilo
Valmont escribió:Yo no pienso darle más alas al trailer hasta que no empiece la segunda temporada. Ya nos la colaron bien con el de la primera...
Pero sí me gustaría tocar un tema chocante que he vuelto a ver en el trailer, creo que no se ha comentado: es el balrog de Moria. Es curioso que una serie que se pretende tan "rompedora" con la tradición de Tolkien, haya sido tremendamente conservadora con el diseño de esta criatura. Es que literalmente es casi un copy paste del de la peli de Jackson.
Y ojo, no digo que visualmente no esté bien, pero precisamente es una de las criaturas que tiene una descripción más vaga por Tolkien, por lo que se puede reinterpretar de muchas formas distintas. A mí por ejemplo un diseño así me hubiera gustado:
Valmont escribió:Yo no pienso darle más alas al trailer hasta que no empiece la segunda temporada. Ya nos la colaron bien con el de la primera...
Pero sí me gustaría tocar un tema chocante que he vuelto a ver en el trailer, creo que no se ha comentado: es el balrog de Moria. Es curioso que una serie que se pretende tan "rompedora" con la tradición de Tolkien, haya sido tremendamente conservadora con el diseño de esta criatura. Es que literalmente es casi un copy paste del de la peli de Jackson.
Y ojo, no digo que visualmente no esté bien, pero precisamente es una de las criaturas que tiene una descripción más vaga por Tolkien, por lo que se puede reinterpretar de muchas formas distintas. A mí por ejemplo un diseño así me hubiera gustado:
Legolas se volvió y puso una flecha en la cuerda, aunque la distancia era excesiva para aquel arco tan pequeño. Iba a tirar de la cuerda cuando de pronto soltó la mano dando un grito de desesperación y terror. La flecha cayó al suelo. Dos grandes trolls se acercaron cargando unas pesadas losas y las echaron al suelo para utilizarlas como un puente sobre las llamas. Pero no eran los trolls lo que había aterrorizado al elfo. Las filas de los orcos se habían abierto y retrocedían como si ellos mismos estuviesen asustados. Algo asomaba detrás de los orcos. No se alcanzaba a ver lo que era; parecía una gran sombra y en medio de esa sombra había una forma oscura, quizás una forma de hombre, pero más grande, y en esa sombra había un poder y un terror que iban delante de ella.
Llegó al borde del fuego y la luz se apagó como detrás de una nube. Luego y con un salto, la sombra pasó por encima de la grieta. Las llamas subieron rugiendo a darle la bienvenida y se retorcieron alrededor; y un humo negro giró en el aire. Las crines flotantes de la sombra se encendieron y ardieron detrás. En la mano derecha llevaba una hoja como una penetrante lengua de fuego y en la mano izquierda empuñaba un látigo de muchas colas.
Valmont escribió:Yo no pienso darle más alas al trailer hasta que no empiece la segunda temporada. Ya nos la colaron bien con el de la primera...
Pero sí me gustaría tocar un tema chocante que he vuelto a ver en el trailer, creo que no se ha comentado: es el balrog de Moria. Es curioso que una serie que se pretende tan "rompedora" con la tradición de Tolkien, haya sido tremendamente conservadora con el diseño de esta criatura. Es que literalmente es casi un copy paste del de la peli de Jackson.
Y ojo, no digo que visualmente no esté bien, pero precisamente es una de las criaturas que tiene una descripción más vaga por Tolkien, por lo que se puede reinterpretar de muchas formas distintas. A mí por ejemplo un diseño así me hubiera gustado:
Valmont escribió:Yo no pienso darle más alas al trailer hasta que no empiece la segunda temporada. Ya nos la colaron bien con el de la primera...
Pero sí me gustaría tocar un tema chocante que he vuelto a ver en el trailer, creo que no se ha comentado: es el balrog de Moria. Es curioso que una serie que se pretende tan "rompedora" con la tradición de Tolkien, haya sido tremendamente conservadora con el diseño de esta criatura. Es que literalmente es casi un copy paste del de la peli de Jackson.
Y ojo, no digo que visualmente no esté bien, pero precisamente es una de las criaturas que tiene una descripción más vaga por Tolkien, por lo que se puede reinterpretar de muchas formas distintas. A mí por ejemplo un diseño así me hubiera gustado:
Tukaram escribió:los nuevos hobbits inclusivos diverses y colorinchis sacados del culo de esta gente
siguen tirando dinero en agenda en vez de en buenos guionistas luego se preguntaran porque la serie es un desproposito
Tukaram escribió:Tolkien si algo era es ser MUY ESPECIFICO con sus descripciones en ningun momento dice que sean negros no usemos el comodin de "Tolkien nunca dijo que " por favor
History
It is unknown when Hobbits first appeared in Arda. They are only known to have originated somewhere in the valley of the Anduin River. By the time they were discovered by the other peoples of Middle-earth, they had already been around for many generations. The earliest known group of hobbits lived in the Vales of Anduin, in the region of Wilderland between Mirkwood and the Misty Mountains. According to The Lord of the Rings, they forgot any genealogical ties to their relatives the "Big People" (Men). At this time, there were three breeds, or tribes, of Hobbits, with different physical characteristics and temperaments: Harfoots, Stoors and Fallohides. While situated in the valley of the Anduin River, the Hobbits lived close by the Éothéod, the ancestors of the Rohirrim, and this led to some contact between the two. As a result, many old words and names in Hobbit-speech are derivatives of words in Rohanese.
A-toast-in-the-green-dragon-by-ralph-damiani
Two hobbits in the Green Dragon inn, by Ralph Damiani
About the year TA 1050, they undertook the arduous task of crossing the Misty Mountains. Reasons for this trek are unknown, but it possibly had to do with Sauron's growing power in nearby Greenwood, which was later named Mirkwood because of the shadow that fell on it. The three Hobbit clans took different routes on their journey westward into Eriador, the Lone-lands. The Harfoots were the first to cross the Misty Mountains, and they migrated as far as the South Downs, a range of hills where the Harfoots long settled, establishing numerous dwellings there. The Fallohides were the second to leave the vales, and they took the High Pass over the mountains, ending up north of Rivendell. They traveled down the river Hoarwell before settling in the Angle, a triangular wooded land formed by the Hoarwell and river Loudwater. The Stoors were the last to migrate, and they crossed the mountains using the Redhorn Pass, traveling down the river Loudwater before settling in Swanfleet, a large marshy region near Dunland and Tharbad. In the following centuries some of the Stoors, dismayed by the power of Angmar and a change in the climate of Eriador, fled back east over the Misty Mountains. This group of refugees eventually gave birth to Sméagol, but their fate is ultimately unknown, as their dwellings were abandoned by the end of the Third Age, likely as the Misty Mountains had become infested by Orcs. The Harfoots, Fallohides and remaining Stoors would journey further to the northwest and settle together in Bree-land, where the divisions between the Hobbit-kinds began to blur, and where they found a friendly coexistence with the native Middle Men.
Young Bilbo S Morello
A young Bilbo Baggins, by Sara Maria Morello
In the year 1601 of the Third Age, two Fallohide brothers named Marcho and Blanco gained permission from the King of Arthedain at Fornost to cross the River Baranduin and settle on the other side. Many Hobbits followed them, and most of the territory they had earlier settled was abandoned. Only Bree and a few surrounding villages lasted towards the end of the Third Age. The new land that they founded on the west bank of the Brandywine was called the Shire. The crossing of the Brandywine, as the hobbits called it, was the event that led to the settlement of the Shire, thus the Shire Reckoning began. Originally, the Hobbits of the Shire swore nominal allegiance to the last Kings of Arthedain, being required only to acknowledge their lordship, speed their messengers, and keep the bridges and roads in repair. During the final fight against Angmar at the Battle of Fornost, the Hobbits maintain that they sent a company of archers to help, but this is recorded nowhere else. After the battle, the kingdom of Arthedain was destroyed, and in absence of the king, the Hobbits elected a Thain of the Shire from among their own chieftains.
MerryPippinTreebeard Hickman
Hobbits Merry and Pippin, far from the Shire, among the Ents during the War of the Ring, by Stephen Hickman
The first Thain of the Shire was Bucca of the Marish, who founded the Oldbuck family. However, the Oldbuck family later crossed the Brandywine River to create the separate land of Buckland and the family name changed to the familiar "Brandybuck". Their patriarch then became Master of Buckland. With the departure of the Oldbucks/Brandybucks, a new family was selected to have its chieftains be Thain: the Took family (indeed, Peregrin Took was son of the Thain and would later become Thain himself). The Thain was in charge of Shire Moot and Muster and the Hobbitry-in-arms, but as the Hobbits of the Shire led entirely peaceful, uneventful lives, the office of Thain was seen as something more of a formality. The major political power in the Shire was actually held by the Mayor of Michel Delving (the Shire's chief township). His duties included overseeing the post and the "police" force (Shirriffs); he was also obliged to preside at banquets. The Hobbits' numbers dwindled, and their stature became progressively smaller after the Fourth Age. However, they are sometimes spoken of in the present tense, and the prologue "Concerning Hobbits" in The Lord of the Rings states that they have survived into Tolkien's day.[1]
Types of hobbits
The Harfoots were the most common Hobbits. They were smaller and shorter than the other kinds and had browner skin. They did not grow beards and rarely wore shoes or boots. They were skilled with their hands and feet and preferred hillsides and highlands to live in. In ancient times, they had frequent contact with the Dwarves of Middle-earth and lived in the foothills of the Misty Mountains for a long time. While the other varieties of Hobbits were still in the Wilderland, the Harfoots moved west, travelling across Eriador as far as the South Downs.
The Stoors often chose to live near water or on flat land. They were broader and heavier in build than the other Hobbits and their feet and hands were larger. They were the most reluctant variety of Hobbit to leave the River Anduin, where some Stoors continued to stay. Others travelled west after the Harfoots and followed the River Loudwater southward. Many of the Stoors settled in the marshes of Swanfleet between Tharbad and the borders of Dunland before they continued north.
The Fallohides, who preferred trees and woodland, were the least common variety of Hobbits. They had fairer skin and hair and were taller and slimmer than the others. They also had better relations with the Elves of Middle-earth, were more skilled with language and song, and preferred hunting to tilling. They crossed the mountains north of Rivendell and then followed down the River Hoarwell. They settled in a triangular forested region between the Hoarwell and Loudwater rivers, known as the Angle of Eriador.
Although the Hobbits took different routes west, they eventually arrived in a land between the River Baranduin (which they renamed the Brandywine) and the Weather Hills. There, they founded many settlements, and the divisions between the varieties of Hobbits began to blur. By TA 3001, the Hobbits of the Shire included families of Bagginses, Boffins, Tooks, Brandybucks, Grubbs, Chubbs, Hornblowers, Bolgers, Bracegirdles, and Proudfoots.
Originally, Fallohides were often found as leaders among clans of the other Hobbits. In the year TA 1601, two Fallohide brothers, Marcho and Blanco, decided to journey across the River Brandywine and settle on the other side. Large groups of Hobbits followed them, and most of their former territory was depopulated. The Hobbits who had left called their new home the Shire.
Age and appearance
Fotr0137
Hobbit children, at Bilbo's 111th birthday
Most Hobbits lived longer life spans than Men, a race of which they might have been an off-shoot. The average lifespan of a Hobbit was about 100 years, though it was not unusual for a Hobbit to live as many as three decades beyond that. The time at which a young Hobbit matured and was accepted as an adult was 33, compared to a Man's 18 years. Thus, a 50-year-old Hobbit would only be middle-aged. The most distinguishing feature of Hobbits was their short stature. They were smaller than Dwarves and were usually between two and four feet in height. With the gradual passing of time, Hobbits became even shorter. By the Third Age, they were usually less than three feet tall. Hobbits' ears were slightly pointed and their furry feet had leathery soles, so they generally didn't need (and rarely wore) shoes or boots. Tolkien wrote that a typical Hobbit had a "round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'."[2]
Hobbits were skilled listeners and had good eyesight. Although they were inclined to be fat and did not hurry unnecessarily, they were also nimble and deft in their movements. In The Hobbit, Bilbo manages to sneak up on the Trolls without them hearing him because he, like all Hobbits, could walk around very quietly. The Hobbits who lived in the Shire dressed in bright colors and were fond of yellow and green. Their hair usually ranged from a light or dark brown to blonde or a golden red and was almost always curly.[citation needed]
In the prologue to The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien describes them as between two and four feet (0.6m-1.2m) tall, the average height being three feet, six inches. Elsewhere he specifies, "between 3 and 4 feet tall, never less and seldom more". They were not quite as stocky as the similarly-sized Dwarves, but still tended to be stout, with slightly pointed ears. Tolkien says the following of Bilbo Baggins:
"I picture a fairly human figure, not a kind of fairy rabbit as some of my British reviewers seem to fancy: fat in the stomach, shortish in the leg. A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown). The feet from the ankles down, covered with brown hairy fur that are extremely small. Clothing: green velvet breeches; red or yellow waistcoat; brown or green jacket; gold (or brass) buttons; a dark green hood and cloak (belonging to a dwarf)."
Tolkien wrote also in the Prologue that they dress in bright colours, favouring yellow and green. Nowadays (according to Tolkien's fiction), they are very shy creatures, but they are and have been capable of amazing things. Their feet are covered with curly hair (usually brown, as is the hair on their heads) and have leathery soles, so most Hobbits hardly ever wear shoes. Hobbits (Halflings) are often depicted with large feet for their size, perhaps to visually emphasize their unusual nature (This is especially prominent in the influential illustrations by the Brothers Hildebrandt, and the large prosthetic feet used in the films by Peter Jackson). Tolkien does not specifically give size as a generic hobbit trait, but does make it the distinctive trait of the Proudfoot hobbit clan. Hobbits can sometimes live for up to one hundred and thirty years, although their average life expectancy is one hundred years. The time at which a young Hobbit "comes of age" is thirty-three. Thus, a fifty-year-old Hobbit would only look 26–30 years by human standards.
Tukaram escribió:@exitforHistory
It is unknown when Hobbits first appeared in Arda. They are only known to have originated somewhere in the valley of the Anduin River. By the time they were discovered by the other peoples of Middle-earth, they had already been around for many generations. The earliest known group of hobbits lived in the Vales of Anduin, in the region of Wilderland between Mirkwood and the Misty Mountains. According to The Lord of the Rings, they forgot any genealogical ties to their relatives the "Big People" (Men). At this time, there were three breeds, or tribes, of Hobbits, with different physical characteristics and temperaments: Harfoots, Stoors and Fallohides. While situated in the valley of the Anduin River, the Hobbits lived close by the Éothéod, the ancestors of the Rohirrim, and this led to some contact between the two. As a result, many old words and names in Hobbit-speech are derivatives of words in Rohanese.
A-toast-in-the-green-dragon-by-ralph-damiani
Two hobbits in the Green Dragon inn, by Ralph Damiani
About the year TA 1050, they undertook the arduous task of crossing the Misty Mountains. Reasons for this trek are unknown, but it possibly had to do with Sauron's growing power in nearby Greenwood, which was later named Mirkwood because of the shadow that fell on it. The three Hobbit clans took different routes on their journey westward into Eriador, the Lone-lands. The Harfoots were the first to cross the Misty Mountains, and they migrated as far as the South Downs, a range of hills where the Harfoots long settled, establishing numerous dwellings there. The Fallohides were the second to leave the vales, and they took the High Pass over the mountains, ending up north of Rivendell. They traveled down the river Hoarwell before settling in the Angle, a triangular wooded land formed by the Hoarwell and river Loudwater. The Stoors were the last to migrate, and they crossed the mountains using the Redhorn Pass, traveling down the river Loudwater before settling in Swanfleet, a large marshy region near Dunland and Tharbad. In the following centuries some of the Stoors, dismayed by the power of Angmar and a change in the climate of Eriador, fled back east over the Misty Mountains. This group of refugees eventually gave birth to Sméagol, but their fate is ultimately unknown, as their dwellings were abandoned by the end of the Third Age, likely as the Misty Mountains had become infested by Orcs. The Harfoots, Fallohides and remaining Stoors would journey further to the northwest and settle together in Bree-land, where the divisions between the Hobbit-kinds began to blur, and where they found a friendly coexistence with the native Middle Men.
Young Bilbo S Morello
A young Bilbo Baggins, by Sara Maria Morello
In the year 1601 of the Third Age, two Fallohide brothers named Marcho and Blanco gained permission from the King of Arthedain at Fornost to cross the River Baranduin and settle on the other side. Many Hobbits followed them, and most of the territory they had earlier settled was abandoned. Only Bree and a few surrounding villages lasted towards the end of the Third Age. The new land that they founded on the west bank of the Brandywine was called the Shire. The crossing of the Brandywine, as the hobbits called it, was the event that led to the settlement of the Shire, thus the Shire Reckoning began. Originally, the Hobbits of the Shire swore nominal allegiance to the last Kings of Arthedain, being required only to acknowledge their lordship, speed their messengers, and keep the bridges and roads in repair. During the final fight against Angmar at the Battle of Fornost, the Hobbits maintain that they sent a company of archers to help, but this is recorded nowhere else. After the battle, the kingdom of Arthedain was destroyed, and in absence of the king, the Hobbits elected a Thain of the Shire from among their own chieftains.
MerryPippinTreebeard Hickman
Hobbits Merry and Pippin, far from the Shire, among the Ents during the War of the Ring, by Stephen Hickman
The first Thain of the Shire was Bucca of the Marish, who founded the Oldbuck family. However, the Oldbuck family later crossed the Brandywine River to create the separate land of Buckland and the family name changed to the familiar "Brandybuck". Their patriarch then became Master of Buckland. With the departure of the Oldbucks/Brandybucks, a new family was selected to have its chieftains be Thain: the Took family (indeed, Peregrin Took was son of the Thain and would later become Thain himself). The Thain was in charge of Shire Moot and Muster and the Hobbitry-in-arms, but as the Hobbits of the Shire led entirely peaceful, uneventful lives, the office of Thain was seen as something more of a formality. The major political power in the Shire was actually held by the Mayor of Michel Delving (the Shire's chief township). His duties included overseeing the post and the "police" force (Shirriffs); he was also obliged to preside at banquets. The Hobbits' numbers dwindled, and their stature became progressively smaller after the Fourth Age. However, they are sometimes spoken of in the present tense, and the prologue "Concerning Hobbits" in The Lord of the Rings states that they have survived into Tolkien's day.[1]
Types of hobbits
The Harfoots were the most common Hobbits. They were smaller and shorter than the other kinds and had browner skin. They did not grow beards and rarely wore shoes or boots. They were skilled with their hands and feet and preferred hillsides and highlands to live in. In ancient times, they had frequent contact with the Dwarves of Middle-earth and lived in the foothills of the Misty Mountains for a long time. While the other varieties of Hobbits were still in the Wilderland, the Harfoots moved west, travelling across Eriador as far as the South Downs.
The Stoors often chose to live near water or on flat land. They were broader and heavier in build than the other Hobbits and their feet and hands were larger. They were the most reluctant variety of Hobbit to leave the River Anduin, where some Stoors continued to stay. Others travelled west after the Harfoots and followed the River Loudwater southward. Many of the Stoors settled in the marshes of Swanfleet between Tharbad and the borders of Dunland before they continued north.
The Fallohides, who preferred trees and woodland, were the least common variety of Hobbits. They had fairer skin and hair and were taller and slimmer than the others. They also had better relations with the Elves of Middle-earth, were more skilled with language and song, and preferred hunting to tilling. They crossed the mountains north of Rivendell and then followed down the River Hoarwell. They settled in a triangular forested region between the Hoarwell and Loudwater rivers, known as the Angle of Eriador.
Although the Hobbits took different routes west, they eventually arrived in a land between the River Baranduin (which they renamed the Brandywine) and the Weather Hills. There, they founded many settlements, and the divisions between the varieties of Hobbits began to blur. By TA 3001, the Hobbits of the Shire included families of Bagginses, Boffins, Tooks, Brandybucks, Grubbs, Chubbs, Hornblowers, Bolgers, Bracegirdles, and Proudfoots.
Originally, Fallohides were often found as leaders among clans of the other Hobbits. In the year TA 1601, two Fallohide brothers, Marcho and Blanco, decided to journey across the River Brandywine and settle on the other side. Large groups of Hobbits followed them, and most of their former territory was depopulated. The Hobbits who had left called their new home the Shire.
Age and appearance
Fotr0137
Hobbit children, at Bilbo's 111th birthday
Most Hobbits lived longer life spans than Men, a race of which they might have been an off-shoot. The average lifespan of a Hobbit was about 100 years, though it was not unusual for a Hobbit to live as many as three decades beyond that. The time at which a young Hobbit matured and was accepted as an adult was 33, compared to a Man's 18 years. Thus, a 50-year-old Hobbit would only be middle-aged. The most distinguishing feature of Hobbits was their short stature. They were smaller than Dwarves and were usually between two and four feet in height. With the gradual passing of time, Hobbits became even shorter. By the Third Age, they were usually less than three feet tall. Hobbits' ears were slightly pointed and their furry feet had leathery soles, so they generally didn't need (and rarely wore) shoes or boots. Tolkien wrote that a typical Hobbit had a "round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'."[2]
Hobbits were skilled listeners and had good eyesight. Although they were inclined to be fat and did not hurry unnecessarily, they were also nimble and deft in their movements. In The Hobbit, Bilbo manages to sneak up on the Trolls without them hearing him because he, like all Hobbits, could walk around very quietly. The Hobbits who lived in the Shire dressed in bright colors and were fond of yellow and green. Their hair usually ranged from a light or dark brown to blonde or a golden red and was almost always curly.[citation needed]
In the prologue to The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien describes them as between two and four feet (0.6m-1.2m) tall, the average height being three feet, six inches. Elsewhere he specifies, "between 3 and 4 feet tall, never less and seldom more". They were not quite as stocky as the similarly-sized Dwarves, but still tended to be stout, with slightly pointed ears. Tolkien says the following of Bilbo Baggins:
"I picture a fairly human figure, not a kind of fairy rabbit as some of my British reviewers seem to fancy: fat in the stomach, shortish in the leg. A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown). The feet from the ankles down, covered with brown hairy fur that are extremely small. Clothing: green velvet breeches; red or yellow waistcoat; brown or green jacket; gold (or brass) buttons; a dark green hood and cloak (belonging to a dwarf)."
Tolkien wrote also in the Prologue that they dress in bright colours, favouring yellow and green. Nowadays (according to Tolkien's fiction), they are very shy creatures, but they are and have been capable of amazing things. Their feet are covered with curly hair (usually brown, as is the hair on their heads) and have leathery soles, so most Hobbits hardly ever wear shoes. Hobbits (Halflings) are often depicted with large feet for their size, perhaps to visually emphasize their unusual nature (This is especially prominent in the influential illustrations by the Brothers Hildebrandt, and the large prosthetic feet used in the films by Peter Jackson). Tolkien does not specifically give size as a generic hobbit trait, but does make it the distinctive trait of the Proudfoot hobbit clan. Hobbits can sometimes live for up to one hundred and thirty years, although their average life expectancy is one hundred years. The time at which a young Hobbit "comes of age" is thirty-three. Thus, a fifty-year-old Hobbit would only look 26–30 years by human standards.
si en algun momento punto o dato de ese texto tan leve y poco especifico de los hobbits encuentras "tenian la piel negra por su origenes africanos " te dare la Razon de inmediato
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Tolkien said that Hobbits were essentially based on rural English gents, but that some varieties of Hobbits, it may have been Fallohides or Harfoots had a “browner” complexion.
por lo tanto SI los describio de forma especifica su aspecto
una vez mas cojen lo que les interesa y lo terjiversan de "puede que algunos fuesen mas morenos de piel (cosa nada rara si vives EN EL CAMPO) " a nos sacamos del culo que vienen de Wakanda hay un enorme trecho
literalmente han usado la excusa de los "elfos oscuros" de Arondir pero con los Hobbits
si Tolkien hubiera querido que los hobbits fueran N los habria descrito de otra forma o los habria ubicado en otro lugar mucho mas al sur de la tierra media y lo sabeis
y si yo le doy vueltas a todo vosotros justificais y defendeis lo indefendible
tanto os cuesta reconocer que los que llevan 2 años vendiendo "si seremos mucho mas fieles a Tolkien de verdad de la buena" y lo primero que hacen es una vez mas cagarse en su obra ?
eso si ardo en deseos de verlos en pantalla para ver si en pos de la multiculturalidad han tenido el cuajo de meter a un hobbit fuerte asiatico o indio o pakistani ai de fondo de forma "sutil" a ver como lo justificais tambien igual que tuvieron el cuajo de meter a un hombre de numemor chino y como defendeis eso
a y por cierto aunque fueran todos mas blancos que la leche me seguiria quejando igual porque 1 su prepresentacion en la serie da puto asco(y no por lo sucios que van ) si no por su comportamiento y mantras digno de una secta y que mucho que hablan de unidad pero a la primera de cambio te dejan tirado como si fueras basura y 2 son una raza que no deberia ni existir ni aparecer en dicha epoca de la serie y solo la han metido porque por mucho que lo niegen no paran de meter referencias a la obra de PJ para apelar a la nostalgia del fan de las pelis
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ES cuestion de gustos,a mi los de las 2 torres, a parte de un diseño random, estaban mal hechos, probablemente la criatura mas defectuosa del bestiario de jackson.