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Ultima oportunidad que les doy, si me fallan ... no bet tb pa mi.
Saludos
Mira, ahora te pego aquí(eso sí, en inglés, sorry pero no tengo tiempo de traducírtelo al español, espero que lo sepas leer xD) info sobre tu partido griego, ahora te lo pongo.
Ahí va, agárrate y lee
Panathinaikos is 5 points down (already...) from Olympiakos and that games are the "future" for Malezani. Panathinaikos is in crisis and with big problems. The regular striker Papadopoulos is out for 15 days duo injury. The regular midfielder Conceicao and the important/regular striker Olisadebe are suspended and when UEFA send them the paper with that point they surprised big because forgot the problem with cards. Also some problems with 2-3 players last days but the most of them will be available.
Panathinaikos is curious team in European games and sometimes has amazing luck. Anyway, hard to see away win here, so the "Level ball" on Udineze is bet for high stakes...
Odds for home win is around
@1.90 now , hope the level ball will be around 1.45 , nice for the combos
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I think we should pay attention before betting on Udinese.
- It's the first time that Udinese play in CHL
- During last years in Uefa Cup competitions Udinese showed a lot of disappointing performances
- We have a very bad tradition against greek teams (00-01 Paok / 04/05 Panionios)
- Panathinaikos has of course more experience in european competitions and this is a key factor
- the coach of Panathinaikos Malesani knows very well the italian football and he has a very bad relationship with Udinese supporters because of an episode in Udinese - Fiorentina 2-3 ... so I think he will be very motivated ..... we too
After that I must say that the beginning of this season has been wonderful for Udinese. The two matches against Sporting L. have been a big surprise for me because the team has showed a concentration in the topic moments that is unusual for us.
Probably the 2 newcomers Candela and Vidigal have brought more experience and tranquillity.
So the question is what kind of Udinese we will see ?
We have really changed our approach to the european matches?
IMO there are a lot of question mark unsolved in this match and I don' t think that a level ball at 1,45 is the right choice.
thought so! When Malesani in an interview was asked about the group opponents he said Barca are clear favourites and that Pao will fight with Werder for 2nd spot! He didn't even mention Udinese!
Anyway, some useful things to know about Pao. You cannot go against them that easily. They have a long history of causing upsets in Europe, it's routine for them (on home ground however they don't perform as well as away). Lot's of money have been lost by punters everywere in the past betting against them. Some example's are Porto twice for CL and Uefa cup (the latter with Mourinho as manager) and Arsenal last year the most recent. Udinese should not be overly excited and optimistic as Pao knows how to deal with these games especially against inexperienced teams (another eg Rangers-Pao 1-3 some 2 years ago). Also, every time they look to be with one foot in the grave like now ( after 2 games in the Greek League, already -5 points behind leaders, terrible performances, discipline problems with players, Malesani athough his job seems to be safe I believe he really is under pressure) something always happens at the critical moment and they get reborn from their ashes.
Looking at the 2 teams' current condition however, one could say that there is no other result than home win and I agree. Still keep in mind all the above as things may not be as simple as they seem. Also our experience from serie A says that Udinese are not so reliable at home when everyone expects them to win...
Something last. I think Pao is really lucky right now to be playing away with Udinese and not with either Barca or Werder. With Udinese they might stand a chance at least for a decent defeat, but with those other two we would probably have a new CL goalscoring record...
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I think that the key factor in all CHl games is the experience
So a frst time participant will have problems against a team which already playd more than 40 CHL games in the last 10 years..
But another key factor is always the team form.....
I saw yesterday the Roma-udinese game and have to say they are in brilliant form already instead of disastrus form PAO has in the last game...
So i Bet my money on X
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I will wait for the last news, but I think it's a possible under...
I believe that PAO will defend to take the point of the draw, whereas Udinese like 1-0 wins...
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I watched Roma - Udinese match last week. Despite a 0-1 win, Udinese was poor in defence. Roma had at least 7-8 goal chances but they were unlucky and De Sanctis made fantastic saves. I don't know much about Pana. If Greek friends inform us about Pana's attacking power, I can try a bet on away win.
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Pao' two starting forwards Olisadebe and Papadopoulos are out. Gekas and Torgele will start. Gekas is an average player imo not very good technically but a good goalscorer. I haven't seen Torgele yet but what I hear is that he's not good technically either but he scores with Hungary national team. For me the big loss for Pao is Conseicao, although he hasn't played well until now, his experience and influence would be necessary for such a game
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Panathinaikos' starting line-up (99% certain)
--------------Galinovic---------------
----------------Moris------------------
--------Goumas---Kotsios-----------
Nilsson--Gonzalez--Biscan---Seric-
---Charalambidis-----Wooter-------
--------------Toghelle----------------
For me, Udinese has a lot of chances to win, seen the important absence for away team too. It's a very solid team, with the new coach who will keep the society's project on. This year few players bought but useful as Natali and Candela with Felipe and Muntari came out from young team
Sunday Udinese played so:
De Sanctis - Juarez, Natali, Felipe, Zenoni - Obodo, Muntari, Candela - Di Natale, Iaquinta, Di Michele
i think tomorrow udinese will play 3-4-3 with juarez (defender) in bench. mauri (midfielder) will take his place
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italian team vs italian coach
no bet
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En resumen, equipo italiano, contra entrenador italiano NO BET par muchos, para otros que va a ganar el udinese lo más seguro, quizás por 1-0 o así, pero que nunca se sabe.... es el 1er partido del Udinese en champions me parece recordar que he leído, y eso siempre se paga, y el olympiakos ya tiene experiencia, aunque les faltan varios jugadores...en fin........ espero que tengas suerte, pero según pinta, o gana de 1 el udinese, o huele a empate rancio.